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       #Post#: 13917--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Overly Concerned Family Members
   DIR By: LurkingGurl
       Date: September 16, 2018, 3:49 pm
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       I don't believe he has gotten any feedback from the people he
       left the note for.
       And on the Nextdoor thread, of the 4 or 5 responses, only one
       has been critical:
       "Nice thing you did but I would be careful about phone calls
       such as that it could be a set up to rob you or worse. I would
       call Police and give them information and let them check it
       out."
       The only way I would see what he did as ok is if the conditions
       were bad enough to warrant it and "grandma" had already
       contacted the police and the police were too busy responding to
       other calls to do anything about it.
       Our police department here is such that if someone truly had a
       concern, they would have no problem going and doing a welfare
       check, even in the rain.  Even to put someone's mind at ease.
       
       And it would be at the police department that there would be a
       copy of any restraining orders preventing contact.
       It's just kind of weird that Grandma would go around the local
       officials.
       That is the problem I have with him doing these things--it's not
       his place.  Aside from the fact that it leaves him open to
       liability, in terms of possibly being a victim himself in some
       way, he could get himself in the middle of someone else's
       conflict.  He kind of acts like he is someone official when he's
       not.
       
       The other thing that really bothered me was that he actually
       posted the name of the street that these people live on.
       He just has poor judgement and poor boundaries.  And you can't
       criticize anything he does because you get labeled an uncaring
       person who wants grandma to worry!
       
       His organization does do some good for the community.  They put
       in doggy poop bags at different places.
       My beef with him stems from him organizing a political rally
       that he tried to paint as a different kind of gathering.    I
       was not the only person who had a problem with this.
       No one has a problem with him organizing a political gathering
       of any kind--it was solely him trying to make it seem like
       something different, something more inclusive and community wide
       and therefore immune from criticism of a political nature that
       was the issue.
       Aside from that, he is a blowhard.  He brings more dogs than
       allowed to the dog park and holds court there speaking loudly
       about his political opinions which are very strong and expressed
       in very distasteful and immature ways.
       Generally, I give him a wide berth.  I think I will block him on
       Nextdoor so I don't have to see anything posts anymore.
       #Post#: 13934--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Overly Concerned Family Members
   DIR By: Hanna
       Date: September 16, 2018, 8:25 pm
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       The details make me change my mind!
       #Post#: 13946--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Overly Concerned Family Members
   DIR By: DaDancingPsych
       Date: September 17, 2018, 9:02 am
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       Under normal circumstances (no storm), I would say that the
       better action is to involve the police. I know that we are not
       really looking at MIL's behavior, but she should have attempted
       to reach out to the local authorities. And the better action
       would have been for this guy to either suggest calling the
       police ("the local non-emergency number is XXX") or for him to
       tip off the law to this posting. As so many have pointed out
       there are many reasons why intervening further is less than
       ideal.
       The storm changes things for me only because I think that it is
       a special circumstance. It would have still been better to call
       the police, but I can understand the urge of just wanting to
       help in this case. I have a friend who's neighborhood was
       effected by the storm and I have seen neighbors doing wonderful
       things for each via her Facebook page (although I would
       recommend to them that they should probably communicate more
       privately). But, I get it.
       A note on a door, I do not find that too intrusive. There is
       still some risk involved, but I do not find it overly forward.
       (Most evenings I arrive home to a note on my door from some
       political entity or salesperson.) I would think it a decent
       neighborly thing to do, although I would not fault anyone for
       refusing to get involved.
       But yes, the background information about this guy does change
       things a bit. It sounds like his actions are dictated more by
       his own need to feel like a hero rather than actually trying to
       help someone. I, too, would probably be rolling my eyes at him.
       #Post#: 13964--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Overly Concerned Family Members
   DIR By: dani321
       Date: September 17, 2018, 2:24 pm
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       Well, now I have another thing to worry about in regards to my
       mom and how crazy she can get if she can't get in touch with me
       as fast as she thinks she should! It's only happened a couple of
       times in my adult life, but when she starts worrying, she really
       gets worried and will start calling everyone and anyone that she
       thinks may know where I am. I could totally see her doing this
       if she didn't live locally.
       I totally agree with the OP that he shouldn't have posted their
       street name, or really, there was no reason to post about it at
       all, except to give himself a pat on the back. If he really
       wanted to highlight how helpful the Facebook or NextDoor page
       is, he could have posted about the scenario without any details.
       I wouldn't be super happy if I were the family he mentioned. I
       thought it was pretty presumptuous even before I saw OP's
       background info, and after reading the background, I see why you
       give him a wide berth!
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       Re: Overly Concerned Family Members
   DIR By: TootsNYC
       Date: December 1, 2018, 4:25 pm
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       well, it sounds like this was all he did:
       --- Quote ---
       > left a note requesting they call and put this concerned
       grandma at ease.
       --- End Quote ---
       So he didn't give their number to grandma; he left it all up to
       the folks in the house, who could ignore it if they wante.
       #Post#: 20504--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Overly Concerned Family Members
   DIR By: OnyxBird
       Date: December 1, 2018, 9:01 pm
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       Even assuming no problems between MIL and the family, I don't
       see how his note was supposed to have "helped."  ??? Her call to
       their home went to either an answering machine or voicemail, so
       she already had the opportunity to leave them a message saying
       she was worried and would like a call to confirm their safety.
       If she's that "concerned," I assume she left that message. They
       won't see this guy's note on the door until they get home, where
       her message is already waiting for them. His note is almost the
       equivalent of calling them himself and leaving a second message
       to say "Hey, your grandma left you a message. I, Random Guy,
       think you should call her back."
       Also, did MIL basically call up a stranger to give him the
       address of her SIL's empty house? I guess it's a good thing for
       SIL that Random Guy is (presumably) just a blowhard instead of a
       burglar...Another reason why the police would be the appropriate
       people to check up on the family rather than some random
       stranger.
       #Post#: 20509--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Overly Concerned Family Members
   DIR By: TeamBhakta
       Date: December 1, 2018, 10:13 pm
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       This comes up sometimes on the hiking boards at Reddit, where
       someone will say "Has anyone on the trail seen this girl ? Her
       name is Jennifer Smith & here's a picture. I haven't heard from
       her in a while." The protocol is "If your relative / friend is
       truly lost or hurt, you would be contacting the authorities
       first. We wouldn't know if you're truly her loved one or a
       stalker. And you're sending strangers to follow her."
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