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       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: NewHomeowner Date: April 2, 2019, 7:28 am
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       All you folks make me so very appreciative of my own office,
       where everybody around me is quiet, pleasant, and thoughtful.
       Which makes me think.....if they are all the good guys, maybe
       *I'm* the one who is objectionable??  Eek.
       #Post#: 28849--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: Raintree Date: April 3, 2019, 1:58 am
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       These are hilarious, and make me feel better somehow. I am
       around the corner from this one woman with a loud, harsh voice.
       She is always talking - ALWAYS. Which is part of her job as she
       is the one greeting incoming clients. But when she wants to ask
       me something, she calls out to me from where I can't see her -
       behind the wall. Since shouting is her normal speaking voice,
       and I tune her out most of the time trying to do my work, I
       usually have no idea that she is attempting to talk to me.
       Especially irritating was when I had a family member (FM) who
       was ill, every single day she'd call out through the wall,
       "How's your FM??" and didn't pick up on my monosyllabic answers
       (because she had never met this person and I'd already spent my
       off time running around dealing with the ill FM and didn't feel
       like explaining every new development the minute I got to work).
       Lots of followup questions: "Are the doctors going to do this?
       What about that?"
       If you do engage her in conversation, she will go off on a long
       rant about something and it echos through the entire office.
       I read somewhere that open offices and cubicles were supposed to
       keep employees connected, but that the loss of privacy has
       resulted in employees resorting to all kinds of measures to
       preserve their personal space, such as headphones.
       #Post#: 28855--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: Aleko Date: April 3, 2019, 4:15 am
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       [quote]I read somewhere that open offices and cubicles were
       supposed to keep employees connected, but that the loss of
       privacy has resulted in employees resorting to all kinds of
       measures to preserve their personal space, such as
       headphones.[/quote]
       Absolutely. My organisation's building gradually had almost all
       its divisions ripped out, largely because due to financial
       cutbacks and reorganisations more and more people were being
       packed in, and my team ended up in one room with serried ranks
       of desks. We all did a lot of phone work, and even if we all
       tried to keep noise to a minimum it was sometimes just
       impossible to hear the caller. We asked if we could at least
       have baffle-boards between each two rows of desks butted up
       against each other, and were told 'heavens, no! That would
       separate people and reduce team cohesion!'
       #Post#: 28862--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: Rose Red Date: April 3, 2019, 7:16 am
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       [quote author=Raintree link=topic=656.msg28849#msg28849
       date=1554274710]
       I read somewhere that open offices and cubicles were supposed to
       keep employees connected, but that the loss of privacy has
       resulted in employees resorting to all kinds of measures to
       preserve their personal space, such as headphones.
       [/quote]
       In open offices, it also also feel *more* exclusionary when
       watching one department have a party. Or if someone gets
       applause from their department and others don't know why.
       #Post#: 28865--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: Venus193 Date: April 3, 2019, 8:11 am
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       Open plan offices are about reducing costs.  Two of my companies
       had cubicle stalls, which felt like shower stalls because they
       had sliding doors that were translucent.  Fortunately, the walls
       were about seven feet high but since they were open at the top
       it didn't cut back much on sound from outside the cubicle.
       My last company had a totally open desk arrangement and that was
       hell.  No privacy and if you needed to have a conference call
       and the two meeting rooms were both in use you had to deal with
       it.  What was worse was that there were no carpets and no drapes
       on windows (which was usual) so nothing to absorb unnecessary
       sound.  This made it all the worse on the one day a week that
       the head of HR had her 3-year-old in the office in the
       afternoon.  The child ran around and climbed on any vacant
       chairs in the work space.  Nobody had the guts to say anything
       about it.
       When I go into Conspiracy Theorist Mode I wonder whether this
       kind of office arrangement is to tell employees that they are
       really unimportant cogs in a machine.
       #Post#: 29069--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: frog24 Date: April 8, 2019, 12:35 pm
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       This isn't nearly as bad as some of the others, but...
       I used to work in government, and had a co-worker who [s]thought
       he[/s] knew all the answers to everything.  The work was beneath
       him, the people were beneath him, but he wasn't going anywhere
       because, hey, a 7 hr work day and a pension.  (All the things
       that give government workers a bad name)
       So it was around the December holiday season, and while there
       was work to be done, none of it was extremely pressing.  We sat
       sort of back-to-back in our group of desks and I could hear him
       typing. He was typing a lot, non-stop, for quite a while by the
       time I really started noticing it.  That was rather unusual
       because normally he spent a fair amount of time surfing the web,
       or "researching" his assignments.
       So I half turned in my desk and saw a word document with a page
       completely full of text!
       Later that afternoon, I had cause to ask him a question about
       something and he didn't quite hide the word doc window to answer
       my question.  The title of the doc was simply his name, and it
       was a novel.  The part of the page I could read was rather
       steamy...  Whenever I noticed he was typing for extended periods
       of time, I knew he was working on the book.
       #Post#: 29220--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: Codewoman Date: April 11, 2019, 3:43 pm
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       [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=656.msg28862#msg28862
       date=1554293796]
       [quote author=Raintree link=topic=656.msg28849#msg28849
       date=1554274710]
       I read somewhere that open offices and cubicles were supposed to
       keep employees connected, but that the loss of privacy has
       resulted in employees resorting to all kinds of measures to
       preserve their personal space, such as headphones.
       [/quote]
       In open offices, it also also feel *more* exclusionary when
       watching one department have a party. Or if someone gets
       applause from their department and others don't know why.
       [/quote]
       In my office, we've taken to singing or clapping along when a
       near-by department is doing the same. They don't really notice,
       but we have a nice little laugh at ourselves.
       #Post#: 29238--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: Aleko Date: April 12, 2019, 2:06 am
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       [quote]In open offices, it also also feel *more* exclusionary
       when other departments have a party.[/quote]
       Which is why many organisations, having insisted on stripping
       out all the partitions to create one space for all their
       departments, don't allow any of them to have a party at all. So
       much for creating team spirit!
       My own department was much smaller than any of the other
       divisions of our organisation, being a specialist outfit. We
       occupied an enclave at the end of one floor, which for
       structural reasons couldn't be opened up and made part of the
       big open-plan space, so we were able to have parties for
       birthdays, leaving dos and any time we won an award or passed a
       milestone. A team email would go round: "3.30 Wednesday,
       Ashley's birthday cake". Then we were attached - for purely
       administrative purposes, it made no difference to how we worked
       or who we worked with - to the big department one floor above,
       and word came down that it would be ill-thought-of if we held
       parties and didn't include "all our colleagues" in the
       invitation. I mean, wot? "Colleagues"? We didn't know the faces
       of half these people, let alone their names, nor they ours; and
       I doubt if all of them could have found our office even if they
       wanted to. We got round it easily enough by just giving the
       heads-up by word of mouth; but really, it was idiotic.
       #Post#: 29873--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: Songbird Date: April 25, 2019, 10:12 am
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       Ugh.
       We have an open floor plan with work stations instead of
       cubicles.
       I came back from the ladies room to find the guy whose desk
       abuts mine having another long, loud, personal conversation with
       a coworker.  She was standing next to my workstation, and the
       file she had been carrying is now sitting on my desk.
       The file is sitting between my computer monitors and the wall,
       so it’s not in my way.
       But it is irritating.  A violation of my personal space.
       #Post#: 29874--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: Hanna Date: April 25, 2019, 10:17 am
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       I heard someone clipping nails the other day and ran out to see
       who, thinking it was coming from the cubicles.
       Alas, it was coming from my own Director's office.   ;D
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