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       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: bopper Date: September 10, 2018, 1:51 pm
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       There was the guy who would talk to himself...sort of give a
       running commentary on what he was doing.
       or say something like "Oh Cool!" so you kind of (at first) felt
       obligated to ask what was cool...
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       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: Gladly Date: September 11, 2018, 6:07 am
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       Fish Curry lunch.  We could still smell it a week afterwards!
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       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: hjaye Date: September 11, 2018, 7:11 am
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       These stories reminded me of an office mate I had.  It was a
       small office broken up into three cubes.  The acoustics in the
       building were terrible, you could hear everything and everyone.
       From the rooms next to us, to people walking down the halls.
       He had a habit of making a lot of personal phone calls, and a
       lot of times I would be on a conference call when he made them
       (I did not use the speaker on my phone).  As I said, the
       acoustics were bad, and to top it off, he was an extremely loud
       talker.  I had to constantly ask him to take it outside, or hang
       up and make the call after I was finished.
       He was pretty clueless.  There was one time he was on the phone
       with his wife (who he openly stated he did not like) and he got
       mad at her.  He screamed into the phone yelling at her and
       cussing up a storm.  When he got off the phone I told him if he
       was going to make a personal phone call where he felt he might
       lose his temper, he would be better off going out to his car in
       the parking garage and talking there so he would not be
       overheard.  I told him if a manager had been walking down the
       hall when he was on the phone he would probably get in a lot of
       trouble for the language he was using.  He looked at me and said
       “So you think other people could hear me?”
       #Post#: 13471--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: gramma dishes Date: September 11, 2018, 9:49 am
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       [quote author=bopper link=topic=656.msg13424#msg13424
       date=1536605462]
       There was the guy who would talk to himself...sort of give a
       running commentary on what he was doing.
       or say something like "Oh Cool!" so you kind of (at first) felt
       obligated to ask what was cool...
       [/quote]
       Years ago when I was teaching, the teacher across the hall (who
       was a wonderful person and a terrific and much loved teacher)
       would do that.  She'd come in in the morning and while walking
       down the hall or taking off her coat would say something like
       "Wasn't that beautiful?" with absolutely no context or reference
       to anything.  We had no idea what she was talking about!  It
       happened often.  :-\
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       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: Girlie Date: September 11, 2018, 11:18 am
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       Not so much an open office concept as a "shared desk" concept -
       where movement between locations meant you sometimes (read: very
       often) would end up working in someone's else's desk. Desks were
       considered "home base," but the understanding in the beginning
       was that they belonged to the employer, not the employee, and
       needed to be utilized to best assist our customers.
       It didn't stop people from complaining about PETTY stuff, though
       - chairs being left at slightly different heights, pens being
       moved to a different side of the desk drawer, a mousepad being
       moved ever so slightly to the left, someone taking the
       initiative to properly clean and sanitize an area that had
       previously had leftover FOOD in it... All of the complaints
       weren't about the same employees (a total of sic employees,
       three of whom moved desks more often than the others), but it
       got so bad that I finally started taking "before" pictures of
       any desk I was working at for more than a single day so that I
       could make sure EVERYTHING - crumbs and all - would still be in
       their appropriate places when the other occupant returned.
       Honestly, I DID have one person complain about me several times
       to our manager about how I kept rearranging her desk and moving
       stuff around (I was, at the time, in "her" desk three out of six
       workdays of the week). The manager finally had me come to the
       desk first thing in the morning so that my coworker could tell
       me everything that she was finding fault with. When confronted
       about what I was doing, specifically, she couldn't name a single
       thing. The manager then told her that we all had to share desks,
       and as long as no one was disrespecting her or taking her
       personal items, she'd have to deal with it. That coworker did
       stop complaining.
       #Post#: 13597--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: Anastasia Beaverhausen Date: September 12, 2018, 3:52 pm
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       [quote author=Gladly link=topic=656.msg13455#msg13455
       date=1536664035]
       Fish Curry lunch.  We could still smell it a week afterwards!
       [/quote]
       Oh holy hell.  :-X
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       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: Rose Red Date: September 14, 2018, 1:31 pm
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       People who eat a full meal (not a snack) at their desk but not
       doing actual work at the same time, and then sign out for their
       hour lunch.
       #Post#: 13813--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: Aleko Date: September 15, 2018, 4:45 am
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       [quote]People who eat a full meal (not a snack) at their desk
       but not doing actual work at the same time, and then sign out
       for their hour lunc[/quote]h.
       Well, at least in an open-plan layout they can't conceal their
       transgressions! These are certainly people who would be idling
       just as much, and probably more so, if they had offices where
       they weren't in view of others.
       #Post#: 13942--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: DCGirl Date: September 17, 2018, 8:19 am
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       I was laid off from a job in February and started a new one at
       the beginning of May.  Both places have open office
       configurations (although at New Job, as a manager, I have an
       office).  Old Job went full open office in December.  The
       differences between how each place chose to implement open
       offices are striking.
       Old Job had exposed duct work (meaning, no acoustical ceiling
       tiles), polished concrete floors, and open coffee bars.  Cube
       walls, such as they were, had no carpet or padding to deaden
       sound.  The noise was deafening at times.  The receptionist at
       my dentist's office told me to call back when I was off the
       train one day.  I told her I was sitting at my desk.  New Job
       has carpet, padded cube walls, ceiling tiles, and the kitchens
       and coffee areas are behind doors (most of them are in areas
       that you pass through going from one section of the building to
       another, so they're not totally isolated, but there is clearly
       an effort to address noise and smells).  Old Job had exactly two
       "telephone rooms" per floor where you go could to make a phone
       call.  These were invariably camped in all day by people from
       other offices who didn't want to hog one of the in-demand
       conference rooms.  New Job has at least 10 "privacy rooms" on
       each floor where people can make phone calls, work privately, or
       pray, plus oodles of formal conference space as well as informal
       spaces to gather (these are spots at the ends of the halls, away
       from offices and cubes).  We just don't have the issue of people
       talking loudly on personal calls; they take them elsewhere.
       New Job has a rule that you are not allowed to eat at your desk
       -- you must get up and go to the lunchroom.  It was explained to
       me that this was because of food aromas -- we have a very
       international workforce and what smells delicious in one culture
       (fish curry, for example) doesn't in another.  I was so used to
       eating at my desk that I balked at that rule a little bit, but
       now I find that getting up and going somewhere else for half an
       hour is a good thing in so many ways, and not just the aromas.
       I've chatted with people in the lunchroom I might not have met
       otherwise because our jobs don't intersect.
       New Job is very flexible about work hours and working from home.
       Old Job was utterly rigid about hours and, after the move to
       the open concept in December, clamped down on working from home
       arrangements because so many people starting working from home
       the shiny new office was like a ghost town some days.
       So, for me, a lot of what makes an open office work is the
       thought that the company puts into making it work.
       As for breaches of etiquette, at Old Job there was the guy who
       worked out in the gym at lunch and hung his wet towel and sweaty
       workout clothes over his cube wall to dry.
       #Post#: 13996--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubes Open Office land - what breaches of etiquette have you
        seen? 
       By: AnnaT Date: September 17, 2018, 7:14 pm
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       [quote author=DCGirl link=topic=656.msg13942#msg13942
       date=1537190379]
       As for breaches of etiquette, at Old Job there was the guy who
       worked out in the gym at lunch and hung his wet towel and sweaty
       workout clothes over his cube wall to dry.
       [/quote]
       We need a vomit emoticon...
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