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       #Post#: 13828--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Use of disposable ware at parties - your thoughts
       By: gramma dishes Date: September 15, 2018, 12:19 pm
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       [quote author=browzer11 link=topic=634.msg13810#msg13810
       date=1536984206]
       "My cousin did Chinet plates a few years ago for Thanksgiving.
       Also disposable cups.".
       No offense, but paper plates and plastic/paper cups for a formal
       Thanksgiving dinner?
       [/quote]
       What in the world is wrong with that?  There may have been more
       participants than plates and everyone being able to throw their
       plates, napkins, cups, etc. into a giant black trash bag saved
       hours of clean up time for hosts and gave them more opportunity
       to mingle with their guests.
       Given that Thanksgiving is virtually always celebrated with just
       family and close friends, I don't tend to think of the gathering
       as a 'formal' one.  Just a sometimes boisterous one! :)
       #Post#: 13830--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Use of disposable ware at parties - your thoughts
       By: lisastitch Date: September 15, 2018, 12:41 pm
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       [quote author=Aleko link=topic=634.msg13812#msg13812
       date=1537004445]
       [quote]"My cousin did Chinet plates a few years ago for
       Thanksgiving.  Also disposable cups.".
       No offense, but paper plates and plastic/paper cups for a formal
       Thanksgiving dinner?
       [/quote]
       I'm English, so this is a real question, not rhetorical: how
       'formal' is a Thanksgiving dinner? How formal can it be, given
       that even small children take part in it? I suspect that we're
       dealing with different understandings of the word formal, and
       this is confusing the issue somewhat.
       [/quote]
       I agree that different understandings is part of it, but small
       children can participate.  My children's godmother hosts "the
       godfamily" every year for Thanksgiving and Easter dinner, using
       china, silver, crystal, and linen tablecloths, and the children
       were always included.  They may have been excused from the table
       early, and they were always outnumbered by the adults, but they
       knew this was a special occasion, they behaved, and participated
       at the level appropriate for their age.
       #Post#: 13860--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Use of disposable ware at parties - your thoughts
       By: caroled Date: September 15, 2018, 8:38 pm
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       [quote author=happychick link=topic=634.msg13222#msg13222
       date=1536286679]
       My cousin did Chinet plates a few years ago for Thanksgiving.
       Also disposable cups.  I think we used real silverware though.
       She had about 20 people for dinner.  Her mom (my aunt-88) wasn't
       too happy about it, but she wasn't doing the dishes. :)
       [/quote]
       browser11, happychick said nothing about the Thanksgiving
       celebration being formal, just that host's mom wasn't happy with
       the use of disposables.
       If you are from a family that enjoy pulling out all the stops
       and having a fully formal dinner, that is wonderful and I'm sure
       it is beautiful and festive, but not everyone has the time,
       finances or inclination to do so.
       It does not mean that their celebration was in any way
       inferior.
       
       #Post#: 13881--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Use of disposable ware at parties - your thoughts
       By: Aleko Date: September 16, 2018, 9:33 am
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       [quote]I agree that different understandings is part of it, but
       small children can participate.  My children's godmother hosts
       "the godfamily" every year for Thanksgiving and Easter dinner,
       using china, silver, crystal, and linen tablecloths, and the
       children were always included.  They may have been excused from
       the table early, and they were always outnumbered by the adults,
       but they knew this was a special occasion, they behaved, and
       participated at the level appropriate for their age.[/quote]
       I totally agree that small children can take part in a 'proper'
       dinner, and enjoy it too; and I'm all for that. I only think
       that their being there does change the dynamic - you may be
       using crystal and fine china, but the atmosphere and
       conversation won't be formal, and nor should they be.
       #Post#: 13935--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Use of disposable ware at parties - your thoughts
       By: lakey Date: September 16, 2018, 10:04 pm
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       [quote] Re: Use of disposable ware at parties - your thoughts
       « Reply #38 on: September 15, 2018, 04:40:45 am »
       Quote
       Quote
       "My cousin did Chinet plates a few years ago for Thanksgiving.
       Also disposable cups.".
       No offense, but paper plates and plastic/paper cups for a formal
       Thanksgiving dinner?
       I'm English, so this is a real question, not rhetorical: how
       'formal' is a Thanksgiving dinner? How formal can it be, given
       that even small children take part in it? I suspect that we're
       dealing with different understandings of the word formal, and
       this is confusing the issue somewhat. I do know people who
       normally eat TV dinners and so rarely sit down at a fully-laid
       table for a meal of several courses that that for them is a
       'formal meal'; but for me a 'formal dinner' or 'dinner party' is
       one for adults, who know to come dressed in formal rather than
       festive smart clothes*. And I think it's the dress code that is
       key. If I've gone to the trouble, in honour of the occasion, to
       put on the dress that is going to have to be expensively dry
       cleaned and the lovely shoes that pinch my feet, I do kind of
       expect the dinner table to do the equivalent. But for a
       Christmas or family birthday dinner, where I go dressed
       festively but not formally, I certainly wouldn't blink at
       plastic plates, mismatched plates, or whatever.
       [/quote]
       You pretty much understand it with your description of a family
       Christmas dinner. For many of us it's a huge holiday dinner with
       fifteen to twenty or more people. Preparing that large a meal
       for that many people is a lot of work. Also, most of us don't
       have place settings for that many people. Then there's the big
       job of clean up when you're already worn out from all the
       preparation. Some of us don't have a dishwasher. I live alone,
       so a dishwasher would be ridiculous for me.
       I do the holiday meals for my family.  At Easter there are
       eight to ten people, so I use my regular plates and glasses. For
       Christmas and Thanksgiving where there are about 16 people I use
       Chinet plates, clear plastic glasses, and real silverware. I use
       disposable foil pans for anything that goes in the oven. This
       means that dishwashing is limited to a few pots and the
       silverware.
       #Post#: 13947--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Use of disposable ware at parties - your thoughts
       By: STiG Date: September 17, 2018, 9:09 am
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       My MIL uses paper plates and plastic cups whenever she hosts the
       family for large dinners.  My SIL and I use our everyday plates,
       glasses and stainless that can all go in the dishwasher, when it
       is each household's turn to host.
       Were I to host a more formal dinner, I'd use my good dinnerware
       and my silver.  And if it was really formal, I'd pull out the
       good china with the silver.
       Disposable is fine, IMO, for any large gathering or if the
       host/ess of the soiree would find the clean-up particularly
       onerous.  But if you are having a sit down dinner for up to the
       maximum number of people you can comfortably sit at your table?
       You should use proper dishes.  They don't have to match but they
       should co-ordinate,
       #Post#: 14102--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Use of disposable ware at parties - your thoughts
       By: DCGirl Date: September 19, 2018, 9:58 am
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       [quote author=STiG link=topic=634.msg13947#msg13947
       date=1537193357]
       Disposable is fine, IMO, for any large gathering or if the
       host/ess of the soiree would find the clean-up particularly
       onerous.  But if you are having a sit down dinner for up to the
       maximum number of people you can comfortably sit at your table?
       You should use proper dishes.  They don't have to match but they
       should co-ordinate,
       [/quote]
       I collect Blue Willow-style dishes and use those for parties.
       They don't match, but they do coordinate, and it was easy to
       collect plates from thrift stores and yard sales at a reasonable
       price.
       #Post#: 14104--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Use of disposable ware at parties - your thoughts
       By: STiG Date: September 19, 2018, 10:21 am
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       I love blue willow!  And the nice thing about them is that you
       can co-ordinate with plain white.  My fancier than everyday but
       not formal china Denby has white on it so I can use French white
       Corelle pieces for serving.  Which is good because the pattern
       is discontinued and I'm not about to pay big bucks for extra
       serving pieces.
       #Post#: 14539--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Use of disposable ware at parties - your thoughts
       By: lisastitch Date: September 25, 2018, 5:59 pm
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       [quote author=Aleko link=topic=634.msg13881#msg13881
       date=1537108391]
       [quote]I agree that different understandings is part of it, but
       small children can participate.  My children's godmother hosts
       "the godfamily" every year for Thanksgiving and Easter dinner,
       using china, silver, crystal, and linen tablecloths, and the
       children were always included.  They may have been excused from
       the table early, and they were always outnumbered by the adults,
       but they knew this was a special occasion, they behaved, and
       participated at the level appropriate for their age.[/quote]
       I totally agree that small children can take part in a 'proper'
       dinner, and enjoy it too; and I'm all for that. I only think
       that their being there does change the dynamic - you may be
       using crystal and fine china, but the atmosphere and
       conversation won't be formal, and nor should they be.
       [/quote]
       I'd say that the atmosphere and conversation were as formal as
       it can be with children.  They were dressed up, used their best
       manners, had china and silver, and were included in the
       conversation (just like the adults!).  We never had a
       "children's table", and we tried to make sure the kids enjoyed
       themselves.  The main concessions to having young ones there
       were the timing of the meal and excusing them early.  But it was
       a formal meal by my definition.
       I'm not sure what your definition of formal is, since you say
       that the atmosphere and conversation won't be, and shouldn't be,
       formal.
       #Post#: 14930--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Use of disposable wear at parties - your thoughts
       By: TootsNYC Date: September 30, 2018, 10:53 pm
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       [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=634.msg12511#msg12511
       date=1535466127]
       I logged in today and saw the title and thought "who is posting
       about wearing disposable diapers to parties" and I realized it
       was my post and I'd use the wrong "ware".
       Modified :)
       [/quote]
       Jennifer. Jennifer is posting about wearing disposable diapers
       to parties. Because unfortunately, Jennifer poops at parties.
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