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Re: Use of disposable wear at parties - your thoughts
By: NFPwife Date: August 27, 2018, 2:18 pm
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[quote author=gramma dishes link=topic=634.msg12401#msg12401
date=1535396590]
Confession of a little old apparently foul minded lady here.
::)
Every time I read the title to this thread, my brain reads:
"Use of disposable underwear at parties -- your thoughts." And
my thought was "Why would (or wouldn't for that matter) anyone
wear disposable underwear to parties? Maybe if there's a
leakage problem, but who would know and what difference would it
make to anyone?"
I honestly never ever correct anyone's spelling, but it does
point out the difference between where our brains go with the
differences between the words wear and ware. ;D
[/quote]
I had visions of a barbecue and the hosts providing disposable
bibs/ aprons. :D
To the question about disposable service items- I agree that
there are a lot of good quality items. My husband doesn't like
to do dishes and routinely eats on disposable plates when I'm
not around or traveling and even the cheapest things hold up
well. This is snobbery and it's the kind of response that sticks
with ppl and makes them reluctant to host.
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Re: Use of disposable wear at parties - your thoughts
By: Dr. F. Date: August 27, 2018, 4:49 pm
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[quote author=gramma dishes link=topic=634.msg12401#msg12401
date=1535396590]
Confession of a little old apparently foul minded lady here.
::)
Every time I read the title to this thread, my brain reads:
"Use of disposable underwear at parties -- your thoughts." And
my thought was "Why would (or wouldn't for that matter) anyone
wear disposable underwear to parties? Maybe if there's a
leakage problem, but who would know and what difference would it
make to anyone?"
I honestly never ever correct anyone's spelling, but it does
point out the difference between where our brains go with the
differences between the words wear and ware. ;D
[/quote]
Thank goodness someone said this. I was too shy.
Seriously... no, Miss Manners appears to be stuck in about 1975.
Disposable plates/cutlery have evolved tremendously since then.
They have a reasonable place in some parties, and I say this as
a hard-core reusable/recyclable environmentalist. These days,
they're not all bad.
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Re: Use of disposable wear at parties - your thoughts
By: cleargleam Date: August 27, 2018, 5:06 pm
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I agree; she seems a bit out of touch.
I haven't the facilities to entertain 40+ guests, if I rented a
hall, I might see if the facility came with tableware.
On the other hand, disposable party ware isn't *that* cheap; one
can purchase 4 dozen forks for $6, and 48 highball glasses for
$36. Goodwill might even have a sufficiency of drinkware, etc.
available.
Which does then leave the problem of what to do with it all
afterwards.
I'm going to go with "know your audience".
Some audiences - I would have matching, high quality (NOT
$1/glass!!) barware, silverware, and cocktail plates.
A family reunion sort of thing, I would go with hall rental if
possible (especially if hall rental included an industrial
dishwasher!).
I will say, it is much easier to eat pasta off stainless steel
flatware than off plasticware.
Modified to actually articulate: yes, Miss Manners seems out of
touch, or I am just not part of the world she speaks from/to.
But that assessment notwithstanding, it is possible (and not
that much more expensive) to go with "real" dishes rather than
disposables, especially if one has a dishwasher and/or a
dishwashing team (or even a professional clean-up option).
There are parties where disposable plates and flatware are no
big deal, and occasions when it's nice to have "real" dishes and
flatware.
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Re: Use of disposable wear at parties - your thoughts
By: QueenFaninCA Date: August 27, 2018, 5:57 pm
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Having grown up in Germany, where disposables have been frowned
upon for environmental reasons for more than a couple of
decades, I agree with Miss Manners. A cocktail party is not a
backyard BBQ. If I want a festive atmosphere, disposable dishes
clash with that, yes, even the fancy ones. And they might even
be more expensive then renting some.
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Re: Use of disposable wear at parties - your thoughts
By: Aleko Date: August 28, 2018, 3:41 am
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[quote]my thought was "Why would (or wouldn't for that matter)
anyone wear disposable underwear to parties? Maybe if there's a
leakage problem, but who would know and what difference would it
make to anyone?"[/quote]
Me too - the only two kinds of disposable wear I can think of
are:
- paper knickers, which if you werar them to parties are
entirely your business;
- the kind of dirt-cheap 3-for-£1 T-shirts that you buy for wear
when you expect to get very dirty. If it's a party to celebrate
Holi (when everyone throws coloured powders over everyone else)
or the Tomatina (
HTML https://www.latomatinatours.com
), then yes,
disposable wear is a good idea.
i[quote]n Germany, where disposables have been frowned upon for
environmental reasons for more than a couple of decades[/quote]
And of course they're right. Biodegradable paper plates are fair
enough, but enough plastic single-use cutlery and plates for a
party of even a dozen people represents a lot of petrochemicals
and a substantial chunk of landfill right there. It may or may
not be an etiquette crime but it certainly is an environmental
one.
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Re: Use of disposable wear at parties - your thoughts
By: Hmmm Date: August 28, 2018, 9:22 am
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[quote author=Dr. F. link=topic=634.msg12433#msg12433
date=1535406590]
[quote author=gramma dishes link=topic=634.msg12401#msg12401
date=1535396590]
Confession of a little old apparently foul minded lady here.
::)
Every time I read the title to this thread, my brain reads:
"Use of disposable underwear at parties -- your thoughts." And
my thought was "Why would (or wouldn't for that matter) anyone
wear disposable underwear to parties? Maybe if there's a
leakage problem, but who would know and what difference would it
make to anyone?"
I honestly never ever correct anyone's spelling, but it does
point out the difference between where our brains go with the
differences between the words wear and ware. ;D
[/quote]
Thank goodness someone said this. I was too shy.
Seriously... no, Miss Manners appears to be stuck in about 1975.
Disposable plates/cutlery have evolved tremendously since then.
They have a reasonable place in some parties, and I say this as
a hard-core reusable/recyclable environmentalist. These days,
they're not all bad.
[/quote]
I logged in today and saw the title and thought "who is posting
about wearing disposable diapers to parties" and I realized it
was my post and I'd use the wrong "ware".
Modified :)
#Post#: 12515--------------------------------------------------
Re: Use of disposable ware at parties - your thoughts
By: peony Date: August 28, 2018, 9:43 am
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Disposable dinnerware is fine at informal gatherings, but it
feels "off" to me to use it for a formal occasion.
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Re: Use of disposable ware at parties - your thoughts
By: lakey Date: September 2, 2018, 5:16 pm
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I host the holiday dinners for my large family, and I don't have
a dishwasher. So, I use sturdy disposable plates and
"glassware", but regular silverware. I also use foil pans for
the turkey, ham, or whatever else is going in the oven. This
cuts way back on the cleanup. Of course, this is family, and
they aren't going to complain, because they're just glad they
don't have to do the dinner.
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Re: Use of disposable wear at parties - your thoughts
By: Contrarian Date: September 4, 2018, 2:51 pm
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[quote author=dani321 link=topic=634.msg12373#msg12373
date=1535390409]
If someone wants me to use non-disposable dishes, cutlery and
glasses at a party, they can wash the dishes for me! I buy good
quality disposable products, nothing is going to fall apart.
Even my MIL, who has to decorate the table for every occasion,
uses disposable plates sometimes. Of course, I also don't
socialize with snobs, and I think that's the LW's biggest
problem, they have a friend who is a massive snob. It's very
rude to complain about someone else's hospitality, even if it
may not be up to your standards. No one should rent dishes and
flatware for an informal cocktail party! It's not a wedding or a
gala. Even the comments on uexpress are mostly in favor of the
LW, and those people on that site can be vicious! (Which is a
huge reason I love it here! Even when people disagree they don't
get vicious and ugly!)
[/quote]
I agree that no one should complain about someone else’s
hospitality, but it goes both ways. There is nothing wrong with
holding an event and using disposable flatware and plates, but I
find that more people seem to get upset when they think their
hosts over do it. Was this the forum where someone had their
guests complain about a table setting be too fancy? I also just
read a Miss Manners where a letter writer had guests that would
refuse to use the fancy towels that the host has specifically
told them were there for them, and then go through the hosts
linen closet to choose towels more to their liking.
I don’t see why “no one should rent plates for a cocktail
party”. Why shouldn’t one rent plates if one wants? You don’t
clean them before returning them, the rental company does that
after they’re picked up. I just think we should all be grateful
for whichever way our host chooses to create an event. No one
should turn their noses up at disposables, or fancy table
settings, or nice towels. If you think that poorly of the host
that you might roll your eyes and think “I can’t believe she
rented plates for this party, who is she trying to be?” Then
please just decline. Ditto any eye rolling at disposables. It’s
all so cruel.
ETA : It’s all so cruel, is a bit dramatic. I’m sorry about
that. I am guilty of an internal eye roll myself, although not
often when being hosted. It’s just that you can’t please
everyone. You just can’t. There are a lot of people who object
to disposables both on an environmental and proper hosting level
and some people who think that having linen napkins or putting
out their best china for close friends is putting on airs. I
just think the people who choose disposables do so for a very
good reason and I’m happy to eat the offerings off it. I also
think that some people like to use their good china and linen
napkins, even for close friends because they just want it used,
or they think their friends deserve it. If one is thinking the
party is over or under hosted, the most gracious guess is that
the host just missed the mark for the one thinking it. Maybe
some of the other guests are quite enjoying it. I think the
conversation, interactions and quality of food is more
important. And even if the quality of food is off, if the
company isn’t , the thing has still gone off ok.
#Post#: 13046--------------------------------------------------
Re: Use of disposable ware at parties - your thoughts
By: peony Date: September 5, 2018, 7:06 am
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Using disposable dinnerware at a formal dinner is like serving
McDonald's chicken nuggets as an entree. It may be convenient
for the hostess, but it just doesn't fit the occasion. Why don't
we all wear jeans and T shirts to formal weddings or banquets?
Because it doesn't fit the occasion. Not everything suits every
event. If I felt I couldn't handle the washing-up after a dinner
party I wouldn't hold the dinner party, period. Some things are
more suitable to occasions than other things, and I stand by
that.
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