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       Re: Sorry.  Sorry. Sorry.  Sorry.  Really, I am Sorry.  SO
       sorry. (Fixed now, I hope)
   DIR By: myfamily
       Date: August 2, 2018, 1:28 pm
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       You brought gifts and took them out to dinner to thank them for
       their hospitality.
       You thanked them directly as you left.
       You called them when you got home and thanked them again.
       And you were expected to email a thank you as well?  I am all
       about saying thank you, but seriously, I wouldn't even consider
       sending an email thanking someone after all those other thanks
       were given.  It seems like overkill to me.
       #Post#: 10388--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sorry.  Sorry. Sorry.  Sorry.  Really, I am Sorry.  SO
       sorry. (Fixed now, I hope)
   DIR By: TootsNYC
       Date: August 2, 2018, 1:47 pm
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       This is reminding me of the quilter who was so offended that she
       didn't get her thanks in writing.
       I told that story here:
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       #Post#: 10394--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sorry.  Sorry. Sorry.  Sorry.  Really, I am Sorry.  SO
       sorry. (Fixed now, I hope)
   DIR By: DaDancingPsych
       Date: August 2, 2018, 2:20 pm
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       This reminds me of a great aunt of mine. She would get SOOO bent
       out of shape if you did not immediately reply to the birthday
       card that she sent. Where most of the other family was pleased
       with a thank you the next time we talked (which may be as long
       as several months), she anticipated a phone call the minute you
       received the card. Oh... and if someone more interesting
       "beeped" into the call (call waiting), she would immediately
       have to go. She made it quite obvious that she wanted you to
       fawn over her, but that you were not the most important person
       in her life. It is tiresome!
       When my SIL came into the family and had a birthday, she was
       unaware of the need for an immediate call. This aunt went up one
       side of her and down the other. Ten years later, Aunt can't
       figure out why my brother and SIL never call or mail... nor why
       has she never really met their three kids. My brother (led by
       his wonderful wife) doesn't want that drama in his life.
       My parents have finally had enough of her shenanigans and are no
       longer taking her calls. When they do pick up a call, it would
       be riddled with guilt-trippy stuff of what they have failed to
       do. Five months later, my aunt has been bugging my sister to get
       her to get our parents to call aunt back... guess who's call my
       sister is no longer accepting? Just yesterday, Aunt sent a
       message through her granddaughter (my cousin). Aunt has my
       contact details, so this was a rather unnecessary step. I think
       her granddaughter was pushed into the contact, so I replied in a
       way that I think was reassuring, but did not pull her into the
       issue. It's really not my circus... let alone granddaughter's...
       let alone my sister's. If aunt contacts me directly, I will take
       her call... but the moment she pulls anything, then I am out. I
       have no time for these silly games. But I digress. I guess I am
       just trying to say that I understand how exhausting these kind
       of people can be.
       What I think I am learning is that good friends forgive and
       overlook our mistakes. Sure, a prompt thank you is required, but
       it sounds like you already did that. You treated your host while
       you were there and I am assuming gave a verbal thanks on your
       way out the door. This is probably a situation where a written
       thank you is nice, but I think a good friend would already
       understand how appreciative you are. I am never a fan of when we
       tell posters that a friend is flawed, so you should dump them,
       but I do think you we all need to weigh how important different
       relationships are to us and how much effort we are willing to
       put in. If she can be exhausting in these ways, but has other
       redeeming qualities... do what you feel is appropriate and roll
       your eyes at other comments. If you can't keep up with all the
       life details, do what you can and not worry about what you
       forget. I don't think being a good friend requires to remember
       every single detail of someone's life... just making meaningful
       connections when possible.
       #Post#: 10444--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sorry.  Sorry. Sorry.  Sorry.  Really, I am Sorry.  SO
       sorry. (Fixed now, I hope)
   DIR By: Aleko
       Date: August 3, 2018, 2:07 am
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       --- Quote ---
       > When my SIL came into the family and had a birthday, she was
       unaware of the need for an immediate call.
       --- End Quote ---
       DDP, didn't you mean to say  'Aunt's totally idiosyncratic and
       unreasonable insistence on an immediate call'? I have never in
       my life heard of any expectation, let alone requirement, that a
       person receiving a birthday card should call the sender to thank
       them. Prompt thanks for birthday presents, yes of course;
       birthday cards, no.
       Seriously: is this even a thing? Is there anyone here who would
       expect a thank-you call for a birthday card, or knows anyone who
       does?
       #Post#: 10463--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sorry.  Sorry. Sorry.  Sorry.  Really, I am Sorry.  SO
       sorry. (Fixed now, I hope)
   DIR By: DaDancingPsych
       Date: August 3, 2018, 8:59 am
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       --- Quote from: Aleko link ---
       >
       > [quote]When my SIL came into the family and had a birthday,
       she was unaware of the need for an immediate call.
       --- End Quote ---
       DDP, didn't you mean to say  'Aunt's totally idiosyncratic and
       unreasonable insistence on an immediate call'? I have never in
       my life heard of any expectation, let alone requirement, that a
       person receiving a birthday card should call the sender to thank
       them. Prompt thanks for birthday presents, yes of course;
       birthday cards, no.
       Seriously: is this even a thing? Is there anyone here who would
       expect a thank-you call for a birthday card, or knows anyone who
       does?
       [/quote]
       Oh... please do not take my crazy aunt's behavior as anything
       close to normal! Personally, I think that it is nice to mention
       that you received the card and to thank the person for the
       birthday wishes, but I would not expect an immediate call.
       (Heck, even a present does not require one to drop everything.
       You have a bit of a window to make contact.) My aunt just wants
       everyone to think that she is the greatest. The cards are not
       sent because she wanted to do something nice; they are sent
       because she wants everyone to fawn over her. So please continue
       as you were doing and do not let this woman convince you
       otherwise!!!
       #Post#: 10569--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sorry.  Sorry. Sorry.  Sorry.  Really, I am Sorry.  SO
       sorry. (Fixed now, I hope)
   DIR By: TootsNYC
       Date: August 3, 2018, 9:57 pm
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       --- Quote from: Aleko link ---
       >
       > [quote]When my SIL came into the family and had a birthday,
       she was unaware of the need for an immediate call.
       --- End Quote ---
       DDP, didn't you mean to say  'Aunt's totally idiosyncratic and
       unreasonable insistence on an immediate call'? I have never in
       my life heard of any expectation, let alone requirement, that a
       person receiving a birthday card should call the sender to thank
       them. Prompt thanks for birthday presents, yes of course;
       birthday cards, no.
       Seriously: is this even a thing? Is there anyone here who would
       expect a thank-you call for a birthday card, or knows anyone who
       does?
       [/quote]
       Well, there are people who think that a greeting card is
       actually a gift.
       There's an etiquette thing where you're supposed to answer
       letters.
       But them together, and you've got Auntie!
       #Post#: 10697--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sorry.  Sorry. Sorry.  Sorry.  Really, I am Sorry.  SO
       sorry. (Fixed now, I hope)
   DIR By: DaDancingPsych
       Date: August 5, 2018, 5:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: TootsNYC link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Aleko link=topic=562.msg10444#msg10444
       date=1533280042]
       > [quote]When my SIL came into the family and had a birthday,
       she was unaware of the need for an immediate call.
       --- End Quote ---
       DDP, didn't you mean to say  'Aunt's totally idiosyncratic and
       unreasonable insistence on an immediate call'? I have never in
       my life heard of any expectation, let alone requirement, that a
       person receiving a birthday card should call the sender to thank
       them. Prompt thanks for birthday presents, yes of course;
       birthday cards, no.
       Seriously: is this even a thing? Is there anyone here who would
       expect a thank-you call for a birthday card, or knows anyone who
       does?
       [/quote]
       Well, there are people who think that a greeting card is
       actually a gift.
       There's an etiquette thing where you're supposed to answer
       letters.
       But them together, and you've got Auntie!
       [/quote]
       Agreed. I know it's a bit corny sounding, but it is the thought.
       Under normal circumstances, I would want to thank anyone for
       sending a card and reciprocate on his/her birthday. But like I
       mentioned, Aunt isn't doing this to be thoughtful.
       #Post#: 10706--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sorry.  Sorry. Sorry.  Sorry.  Really, I am Sorry.  SO
       sorry. (Fixed now, I hope)
   DIR By: Star Wars Fan
       Date: August 5, 2018, 11:21 pm
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       --- Quote from: TootsNYC link ---
       >
       > You missed something--I hope you don't mind if I add it:
       >
       > [quote author=blueyzca link=topic=562.msg10307#msg10307
       date=1533159331]
       > If I visited with a "friend" and brought wine and chips and a
       lemon cake and strawberry jam and homemade goodies and told her
       how sorry I was to be leaving as she had made her home so cozy
       for us and how much fun I had had, and I called her when I got
       home and said thank you again, and then she had a conniption
       because I didn't send a thank you note immediately, I'd find a
       new friend.
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I wouldn't find a new friend, but I'd be really, really direct
       about how this was Not Okay.
       [/quote]
       Well I'd be finding a new friend too. Because with "friends"
       like that who needs enemies? Wow. Totally not OK and I wouldn't
       put up with it and I'd just end the friendship and be done with
       her. This woman's behavior is completely self-centered and
       ridiculous.
       Ed.
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