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       #Post#: 9357--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Secret Santa At the Office:  How to Make Sure The Rules Are 
       Fair
       By: Venus193 Date: July 23, 2018, 6:41 am
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       [quote author=Bada link=topic=544.msg9326#msg9326
       date=1532272346]
       Do you think you could ask to decrease the spending cap by
       blaming it on the economy/the business?  If no one has gotten a
       raise in ages (as cost of living goes up, leaving you with less
       disposable income) or if you're not getting a Christmas bonus
       like you used to, maybe you can suggest the game be modified.
       Have you tried reaching out to your co-workers on the down low
       to see if they hate the limit too (or the game as a whole)?  If
       a group of you say it together, maybe you can get it changed.
       (But I've had bad results when speaking for others when they
       aren't present...the Others changed their story when angrily
       confronted by the irrational person I had given our message to.
       So all go talk to Organizer together!)
       ETA: I just re-read the OP and it was at the old job. So my
       suggestions might not be needed, but I'll leave them anyway,
       shrug. :)
       [/quote]
       Of course your answers are needed; this problem wasn't unique to
       my situation and I think every year we had at least one thread
       on this subject.
       As for how I handled it at the time I asked the organizer about
       the person whose name I drew.  She came back with the suggestion
       to get him a DVD from The Criterion Collection; any title.  I
       was a member of the Colombia House DVD Club at the time and had
       enough points to get a free copy of a film that sold for $35 in
       stores (It was Fellini's 8 1/2).  Since we were also asked to
       put small things on the recipient's desk during the three weeks
       between the announcement and the party I spent a little cash on
       things like packets of good trail mix, candy bars, and chips.
       #Post#: 9361--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Secret Santa At the Office:  How to Make Sure The Rules Are 
       Fair
       By: Irishkitty Date: July 23, 2018, 7:43 am
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       My current job has a secret Santa Christmas gift exchange. As
       there are only about 10 -12 people in the office we either try
       to make it something they would enjoy or a joke gift. The best
       part is guessing who your secret Santa is, we make that the
       biggest part. Some years I've received really nice/cute items,
       one year I got a gag gift that I didn't care for but it was the
       thought and laughs with colleagues that made the night.
       In my last job we had a secret Santa too, but most people did
       gag gifts. We were not supposed to find out who our secret Santa
       was, but people tried and then got very irate complaining about
       what they were given. E.G. One girl was known for being very
       into her looks, clothes, makeup, etc. She was a pretty blonde
       and someone got her a Barbie Princess Mirror and Comb. She was
       really angry and demanded to know who gave it to her.  ::)
       But in both places the limit is fairly low, about €10 - just
       checked the exchange rate that's less than $12.
       #Post#: 9365--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Secret Santa At the Office:  How to Make Sure The Rules Are 
       Fair
       By: kckgirl Date: July 23, 2018, 8:05 am
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       I wouldn't have participated if the suggested limits were
       $35-50. Those are in the "family" range to me. My office (about
       20 people) did the suitable-for-anybody exchange where we played
       the game. We sneaked our gifts into the conference room so
       nobody knew which one we brought. After three steals, an item
       was out of the game. Our top limit was $10, and we often spent
       less. It was goodhearted fun, and there were some pretty clever
       gifts.
       #Post#: 9369--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Secret Santa At the Office:  How to Make Sure The Rules Are 
       Fair
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: July 23, 2018, 9:00 am
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       [quote author=Amara link=topic=544.msg9243#msg9243
       date=1532192012]
       ETA: I have given thought at various times this year to
       wondering if others at work would like to join me in hosting a
       Giving Tree, that is, one of those trees to which people can
       come and pick a card off the tree that has a wish on it from a
       client served by the charitable organization. I've thought one
       focused on low-income seniors would be fabulous since they are
       often not thought of as much as children and/or families.
       However, I have not brought it up because I have very strong
       feelings about roping people into doing what they don't want to
       do. It may or may not happen; I may do it by myself. I'll just
       have to see.
       [/quote]
       A thought that may not be a good one. Is there an organization
       near you that has a giving tree that you could participate in?
       (For example, I know department stores have them. One of our
       local senior centers does one, too.) Maybe invite anyone within
       the office/company to join you and see what kind of interest
       there is. For the first year, you simply participate in this
       other company's giving tree. Then you can decide if you want to
       do one within your company... or maybe you will find that this
       other partnership works just fine, too!
       #Post#: 9377--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Secret Santa At the Office:  How to Make Sure The Rules Are 
       Fair
       By: Writer of Wrongs Date: July 23, 2018, 9:34 am
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       My current job doesn't do Secret Santa. Several of us will bring
       small treats for our location (7-8 people) - a tiny bag of
       candies or a candy cane for each person, a tray of home-baked
       goods for the breakroom, etc., - but it's strictly voluntary,
       and nobody thinks anything negative of anyone who doesn't do so.
       My previous job did an ornament exchange, and I got some
       beautiful pieces there. Then one year I received an ornament
       somehow connected to the Christmas Story movie (is that right?
       The kid who wants the BB gun?). I'm really not into Christmas
       movies, so I had never seen that one and had no idea what the
       ornament was about until DH told me at home that night, but I
       was polite. "Oh, how funny! How cute! Thank you!" That was the
       only dud, though, and it would have been fine for someone
       familiar with the movie (which I still haven't seen).
       #Post#: 9379--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Secret Santa At the Office:  How to Make Sure The Rules Are 
       Fair
       By: Soop Date: July 23, 2018, 10:03 am
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       After reading all the posts, I'm still glad we don't do gifts at
       my office. A few years ago, someone on my team mentioned a team
       Secret Santa, and everyone kept bean dipping her. I guess I'm
       not the only one who doesn't like them.
       We don't buy presents for very many people in our family, and
       none for non-family members, so the thought of buying for a
       random co-worker is out of the question for me. And even more
       annoying would be a Gag gift Secret Santa. Mr. S and I agreed a
       few years ago, no more gag gifts in our Christmas stockings (we
       only do stockings for each other...slightly pricier gifts in it
       than a normal stocking would be, but no big gifts) because it
       would just go in the trash after the fun was over. I don't want
       to buy or receive stuff that's going in the trash.
       #Post#: 9380--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Secret Santa At the Office:  How to Make Sure The Rules Are 
       Fair
       By: Jem Date: July 23, 2018, 10:24 am
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       [quote author=Soop link=topic=544.msg9379#msg9379
       date=1532358230]
       After reading all the posts, I'm still glad we don't do gifts at
       my office. A few years ago, someone on my team mentioned a team
       Secret Santa, and everyone kept bean dipping her. I guess I'm
       not the only one who doesn't like them.
       We don't buy presents for very many people in our family, and
       none for non-family members, so the thought of buying for a
       random co-worker is out of the question for me. And even more
       annoying would be a Gag gift Secret Santa. Mr. S and I agreed a
       few years ago, no more gag gifts in our Christmas stockings (we
       only do stockings for each other...slightly pricier gifts in it
       than a normal stocking would be, but no big gifts) because it
       would just go in the trash after the fun was over. I don't want
       to buy or receive stuff that's going in the trash.
       [/quote]
       I 100% agree. My family does "experience" gifts but aside from
       the kids we don't exchange tangible presents. We all have
       whatever we actually want, and none of us enjoy buying or
       receiving tangible things that are not truly wanted. It seems
       Secret Santa type presents - even at the $35 price point - would
       be just throwing that money away, albeit after people have
       agonized over what to buy and agonized over how to act when
       opening something not wanted.
       I am on board with giving to families in need in lieu of
       exchanging useless gifts with people who have all they want or
       need. This is what my workplace does. I think there may be a
       voluntary Secret Santa thing among support staff. My colleagues
       and I get enough holiday presents from clients - usually food of
       some sort - that we find ourselves just sharing them with the
       entire office.
       #Post#: 9388--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Secret Santa At the Office:  How to Make Sure The Rules Are 
       Fair
       By: accountingisfun Date: July 23, 2018, 12:16 pm
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       We've started doing something very different with my families
       (it started with the in-laws and now we are doing it on my side
       too). Since all of the nieces and nephews are older and want to
       participate in a gift exchange with the whole family, but are of
       tighter finances, we started doing "Trade a 6-pack". Basically,
       everyone who wants to participate brings a 6-pack, and then we
       trade them doing a dirty Santa type exchange. We all have quite
       a bit of fun. For my in-laws, many of the gifts involve food or
       alcohol, but that is because that is what the group likes! For
       my family, there are a number who don't drink, so then we do
       other types of 6-packs, like my nephew made gorgeous wooden
       coasters, and my sister brought a 6 pack of different types of
       tea. We've done things like a 6 pack of interesting meat and
       cheese combinations, spice blends, balsamic vinegar and olive
       oil, etc. This also relieves some of the gift giving pressure on
       my Mom and MIL since then they don't have to buy for all of the
       kids and grand-kids. We don't really put a dollar value of a
       minimum or maximum, so people just spend what they are
       comfortable with and according to each family's values. We've
       really liked doing it and I think with modifications for
       particular office cultures, it might be a good fit for an office
       as well.
       #Post#: 9402--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Secret Santa At the Office:  How to Make Sure The Rules Are 
       Fair
       By: Soop Date: July 23, 2018, 2:27 pm
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       I can imagine in some offices, if enthusiasm isn't high in the
       whole group or if they don't know each other very well
       personally there could be a lot of gift cards. Well, at that
       point, just let me keep my cash and spend it how I want.
       #Post#: 9406--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Secret Santa At the Office:  How to Make Sure The Rules Are 
       Fair
       By: Despedina Date: July 23, 2018, 2:49 pm
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       We did the giving tree thing for a needy family at my old job. I
       don't know if the needy family was of an employee or what.
       Several things were reasonable like size 10 boys shoes, hot
       wheels cars etc but there were shockingly large ticket items
       like a flat screen tv, laptop and game system. Worse yet was the
       fact that as the due date drew near, HR sent an email out that
       there still several items on the tree. All of them were the high
       priced items. Most of the people at the company barely made
       35000 a year.
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