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       #Post#: 9327--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Feeling left out
   DIR By: Thitpualso
       Date: July 22, 2018, 10:55 am
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       I sympathize with Wetkittennoses because I’ve been through the
       same thing.
       I can’t speak for men but, in some office cultures, the women
       seem to have a sorority mentality.  I encountered it when one
       woman was getting married for the second time. There were three
       women who had worked together for about 20 years.  Even though I
       had been working there for 7 years and supported her through her
       divorce, I was the ‘new kid’ who hadn’t shared all their
       experiences.  It was also thought that I would be jealous of the
       50 year-old bride so I was left out of the loop.
       We’d call out for lunch and, when it arrived, the bride and her
       friends would retire to an unused office, hand me my box and
       lock the door in my face.  It was my duty eat lunch alone at my
       desk, man the phones for the library and a curatorial department
       as well as see to the needs of any library visitors.  I didn’t
       get an afternoon break because there was n one to relieve me.
       They stayed sequestered from noon to 4:15 PM and we closed at
       4:30.  This happened more than once. In their minds, it was just
       right that I would do this because, ‘Poor Oblivious needs all
       the support she can get and only we know everything she’s been
       through’.
       Yeah, right.
       #Post#: 9335--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Feeling left out
   DIR By: GardenGal
       Date: July 22, 2018, 3:14 pm
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       --- Quote from: Thitpualso link ---
       >
       > I sympathize with Wetkittennoses because I’ve been through the
       same thing.
       >
       > I can’t speak for men but, in some office cultures, the women
       seem to have a sorority mentality.  I encountered it when one
       woman was getting married for the second time. There were three
       women who had worked together for about 20 years.  Even though I
       had been working there for 7 years and supported her through her
       divorce, I was the ‘new kid’ who hadn’t shared all their
       experiences.  It was also thought that I would be jealous of the
       50 year-old bride so I was left out of the loop.
       >
       > We’d call out for lunch and, when it arrived, the bride and
       her friends would retire to an unused office, hand me my box and
       lock the door in my face.  It was my duty eat lunch alone at my
       desk, man the phones for the library and a curatorial department
       as well as see to the needs of any library visitors.  I didn’t
       get an afternoon break because there was n one to relieve me.
       >
       > They stayed sequestered from noon to 4:15 PM and we closed at
       4:30.  This happened more than once. In their minds, it was just
       right that I would do this because, ‘Poor Oblivious needs all
       the support she can get and only we know everything she’s been
       through’.
       >
       > Yeah, right.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I would have brought this to the attention of my boss after the
       first time, if I had managed not to knock on their locked door
       long enough so they came out.  How rude and unprofessional.
       #Post#: 9338--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Feeling left out
   DIR By: Thitpualso
       Date: July 22, 2018, 4:26 pm
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       The problem was that the BTB was my boss and she was also the
       treasurer of our union.  There was no one to whom I could
       complain. We didn’t have an HR department in the early 1990s.
       After a few episodes the head curator of the neighboring
       department had had enough of their receptionist disappearing for
       entire afternoons. After that, things were decidedly frosty but,
       at least, the ladies made a pretense of working.
       #Post#: 9349--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Feeling left out
   DIR By: NFPwife
       Date: July 22, 2018, 10:02 pm
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       wetkittennoses, I'm so sorry this has happened. They've behaved
       poorly. I'd proceed in a friendly and professional manner and
       wouldn't expect to make friends with them.
       --- Quote from: Thitpualso link ---
       >
       > I sympathize with Wetkittennoses because I’ve been through the
       same thing.
       >
       > I can’t speak for men but, in some office cultures, the women
       seem to have a sorority mentality.  I encountered it when one
       woman was getting married for the second time. There were three
       women who had worked together for about 20 years.  Even though I
       had been working there for 7 years and supported her through her
       divorce, I was the ‘new kid’ who hadn’t shared all their
       experiences.  It was also thought that I would be jealous of the
       50 year-old bride so I was left out of the loop.
       >
       > We’d call out for lunch and, when it arrived, the bride and
       her friends would retire to an unused office, hand me my box and
       lock the door in my face.  It was my duty eat lunch alone at my
       desk, man the phones for the library and a curatorial department
       as well as see to the needs of any library visitors.  I didn’t
       get an afternoon break because there was n one to relieve me.
       >
       > They stayed sequestered from noon to 4:15 PM and we closed at
       4:30.  This happened more than once. In their minds, it was just
       right that I would do this because, ‘Poor Oblivious needs all
       the support she can get and only we know everything she’s been
       through’.
       >
       > Yeah, right.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       As a "sorority girl" I have to take exception to the phrase, no
       one welcomes new pledges like alumni or the "older sisters" in a
       house and the implication of cliquishness to outsiders isn't
       true, IME.
       #Post#: 9412--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Feeling left out
   DIR By: bopper
       Date: July 23, 2018, 3:24 pm
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       I had a friend, Betty, who had a friend Wilma. We all had girls
       the same ages.  I wasn't friends with Wilma but would see her if
       Betty had a party or whatnot.
       So one time Wilma was having a birthday party for her daughter,
       Pebbles.
       I was not aware of this, and my DD was not invited, as our kids
       were really not friends.
       But I ran into Wilma at the grocery store or something and just
       did some usual chitchat.
       But suddenly she says that Pebbles is having a birthday
       party,...and she should invite my DD.
       Sure! I say.
       But she never does invite her. I think she felt guilty at the
       time (why I am not sure) and then blurted it out...but
       then later decided that is not what she wanted to do.
       #Post#: 9414--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Feeling left out
   DIR By: GardenGal
       Date: July 23, 2018, 3:54 pm
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       --- Quote from: Thitpualso link ---
       >
       > The problem was that the BTB was my boss and she was also the
       treasurer of our union.  There was no one to whom I could
       complain. We didn’t have an HR department in the early 1990s.
       >
       > After a few episodes the head curator of the neighboring
       department had had enough of their receptionist disappearing for
       entire afternoons. After that, things were decidedly frosty but,
       at least, the ladies made a pretense of working.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Wow, what a rotten office situation for you.
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