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       #Post#: 8524--------------------------------------------------
       Is this TY card a new "thing" or a bad way to do the
       old "thing"?
   DIR By: IWish
       Date: July 13, 2018, 8:34 am
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       My mom attended a wedding of a young couple a few weeks ago and
       of course sent a nice gift. Yesterday she received an elegant,
       custom printed card in the style of the wedding invitation and
       STD card. It had wedding pictures of the happy couple on two
       sides and a pre-printed message as follows: "Thank you for
       celebrating our wedding day. We're blessed to have friends and
       family like you and appreciate your support as we start our
       lives together. Love and thanks, The Happy Couple."
       We are confused as to whether this is a new custom to thank all
       guests for attending the wedding and a separate TY note for the
       gift will be forthcoming. Or, is this "the" TY note for the
       gift? If it's the former I think it's a sweet gesture (although
       maybe one started by the stationary companies.  :D)  If it's the
       latter, I don't think it's appropriate etiquette because there
       is nothing personal about it, doesn't mention the specific gift
       and doesn't even have a real signature.
       Can someone else with more experience in recent wedding planning
       chime in?
       #Post#: 8528--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this TY card a new "thing" or a bad way to do
       the old "thing"?
   DIR By: vintagegal
       Date: July 13, 2018, 9:11 am
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       I got one of those and it WAS the TY card for the gift as well.
       Mentioned the "token" (gift) ($500 handmade quilt). Also not
       signed, and mailed by the print company. I was gobsmacked.
       ETA - I was so gobsmacked I kept it, just got it out - here is
       the wording. "Our Wedding Day" (picture of HC) We appreciate the
       thoughtful tokens of your love given in honor of our marriage."
       (printed names of B & G)
       This was about 12 years ago.
       #Post#: 8533--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this TY card a new "thing" or a bad way to do
       the old "thing"?
   DIR By: IWish
       Date: July 13, 2018, 9:23 am
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       Correction: the wedding was 4 months ago, not a couple of weeks.
       That now leads me to believe it might be "the" TY although it
       doesn't even mention the word gift anywhere.
       Vintagegal - that is truly sad. A handmade quilt didn't warrant
       a personalized TY!
       #Post#: 8535--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this TY card a new "thing" or a bad way to do
       the old "thing"?
   DIR By: Thitpualso
       Date: July 13, 2018, 9:59 am
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       Back in the 1980s it was a fashion to include a wallet-sized
       photo of the HC in a TY note.  THAT was a nice gesture and the
       TY note was a real note.
       This is a bit different and not very nice, in my opinion.
       #Post#: 8540--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this TY card a new "thing" or a bad way to do
       the old "thing"?
   DIR By: BeagleMommy
       Date: July 13, 2018, 10:32 am
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       When BeagleDaddy's godson got married 3 years ago they did this.
       I found it a lazy way to send TY cards without really sending
       them.
       #Post#: 8541--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this TY card a new "thing" or a bad way to do
       the old "thing"?
   DIR By: Luci
       Date: July 13, 2018, 10:41 am
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       Funeral homes have been doing this for years, even when I was
       24. I have written the notes for our family members on the
       prewritten card and most of the ones I have received have also
       had a personalized note, so appreciated them. I always thought
       the people who sent these out unpersonalized were remiss.
       It breaks my heart that this practice has filtered down to
       weddings. It ranks right up there addressing your own shower
       thank you. I wouldn’t mind the preprinted note with, "Thank you
       for the gift. We will put it towards saving for our home."
       We all end up with a standard opening anyway and writing the
       same thing over and again is pretty tedious. Just please write a
       personal line!
       #Post#: 8544--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this TY card a new "thing" or a bad way to do
       the old "thing"?
   DIR By: TootsNYC
       Date: July 13, 2018, 10:54 am
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       It breaks my heart that it was ever a thing with funerals!
       When my grandma died, the whole family sat down to hand-write
       thank-you notes together. Notes for the food, notes for memorial
       donations, notes for letters or greeting cards with personal
       thoughts in them.
       It was very bonding! Both among ourselves, and also I think
       between the people who were supporting Grandpa, and him. He
       didn't personally write them all, but there was an ongoing
       conversation about who we were writing to, and what they'd
       given/sent, and Grandpa would share stories about how he and
       Grandma were connected to him.
       This is the POINT of all these letters. Not to check off some
       box, but to create connections between people.
       I'm currently reading a YA fantasy series by Susan Dennard
       (Witchlands), and one of the "witch" powers is Threadwitch, who
       sees the connections between people as visible threads.
       It really made me think about all the ways people "stitch"
       ourselves together into a community.
       Gifts and thanks are part of this--and the more personal
       effort that goes into it, the thicker the threads and the
       stronger the stitches.
       These people are also missing out! My husband and I wrote out
       thank-you notes with care, and I made sure to write something
       different in almost every thank-you note (OK, well, I probably
       repeated some, but if I was writing to five members of the same
       family--aunts who were sisters, their kids, etc.--I wrote
       something different to each of them).
       (I wrote for his side of the family; he wrote to mine--again,
       I was "stitching" each of us to the family that we WEREN'T
       already attached to.)
       We got feedback on our thank-you notes! People compared notes
       among those family groups, and many of them called my MIL to
       praise the notes, or they mentioned the note to me at a family
       gathering.
       And at the baby shower a couple of years later, we got VERY
       generous gifts and an enthusiastic outpouring of affection.
       There were people asking my MIL to be sure they were invited;
       that's how effective and marketing scheme it turned out to be.
       (That was not intentional; I just wanted to do the right thing.
       The cause-and-effect connection was not on my mind.)
       #Post#: 8545--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this TY card a new "thing" or a bad way to do
       the old "thing"?
   DIR By: TootsNYC
       Date: July 13, 2018, 10:57 am
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       --- Quote from: Thitpualso link ---
       >
       > Back in the 1980s it was a fashion to include a wallet-sized
       photo of the HC in a TY note.  THAT was a nice gesture and the
       TY note was a real note.
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I remember that! And I remember that the etiquette experts of
       the time were saying, "Don't wait for the professional
       photographer to finally get you those photos--it can take too
       long! [because it could take months] Send the notes earlier!"
       And guests saying, "I don't need the picture; I'd rather have
       the note." Or "I like getting the picture, I'm OK waiting for
       the note."
       I got married about then, and I fixed it by picking a photo my
       mom had taken and having it made into wallets--which took about
       10 days, what with back-and-forths. So I was able to mail
       thank-yous within 2 weeks.
       #Post#: 8557--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this TY card a new "thing" or a bad way to do
       the old "thing"?
   DIR By: Aleko
       Date: July 13, 2018, 11:46 am
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       --- Quote ---
       > "We appreciate the thoughtful tokens of your love given in
       honor of our marriage."
       --- End Quote ---
       Vintagegal, they weren't calling your lovely quilt a "token
       gift", not at all. It's perfectly legit to call a gift - any
       gift - a token (in the dictionary sense "thing serving as a
       visible or tangible representation") of love / friendship /
       regard, however you want to phrase it.
       The offence here is not that they denigrated your present, but
       that they didn't even bother to write and thank you for the
       specific present you gave them; they just had a print company
       mail a circular to all their guests. Because a circular is all
       that is - a photo and an elegant style doesn't make it any more
       than that.
       #Post#: 8560--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this TY card a new "thing" or a bad way to do
       the old "thing"?
   DIR By: TootsNYC
       Date: July 13, 2018, 12:17 pm
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       I meant to say that about the phrase "token of love" or "token
       of affection." In this sense, a token is  stand-in; its not "a
       trinket" or "a trivial thing."
       We do use the word "token" in phrases like "a token gift," in
       which the stand-in is the less valuable thing.
       But a token of love IS something less valuable than the actual
       thing--but the actual think is your love, and therefore ANY gift
       will be far less valuable, no matter what it's financial value.
       I agree, the biggest problem is that your gift did end up
       feeling like an unvalued thing, because they couldn't be
       bothered to actually mention it, or to actually add a personal
       touch to their thanks.
       (I think this is one of the unfortunate offshoots of wedding
       gifts being either money or something the couple picked out for
       themselves.)
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