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Public Spaces and Wedding Parties
By: Irishkitty Date: July 4, 2018, 11:01 am
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Please move this if not in the right place. I couldn't think
where else to put it.
Just spotted an article where a wedding party went to get
pictures taken in a public space. There was a sunbather close to
the gazebo they wanted to use and she refused to move away while
they took photos. There seem to be two main opinions:
1. Wedding Party was rude to ask her to move (She was there
first and it's a public space).
2. She was rude not to move for someone's Special Event (there
is lots of room and she would only have had to move a few
meters).
Article link
HTML https://www.boredpanda.com/sunbathing-woman-refuses-leave-wedding-photoshoot-torquay/?cexp_id=11001&cexp_var=11&_f=featured
What think you?
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Re: Public Spaces and Wedding Parties
By: RevMaxx Date: July 4, 2018, 11:33 am
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It would be too easy for me to say, "Oh! how lovely! give me a
hand moving my
gear, dear? "
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Re: Public Spaces and Wedding Parties
By: NyaChan Date: July 4, 2018, 11:35 am
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It’s a public place! This drives me crazy - if you want perfect
wedding pictures, you rent out the space or get the necessary
permits. You don’t just expect the whole world to work around
you because you out on a tux or a pretty dress. It’s not just
weddings though - I’ve seen people do this for prom and
birthdays and other special occasions.
There was a community day for Pokémon Go where players are
encouraged to gather at a public place like parks and play for
special rewards. It was also Saturday with amazing weather so
lots of families and picnics too. A bunch of high schooler
showed up amidst all the park goers to take pictures and start
loudly complaining about all the “weirdos” and “randos” walking
around and how dare they ruin their pictures!? What did they
expect on one of our first truly warm days in a very popular
park after a ridiculous winter?
I contrast that to another prom group in another park who wanted
pictures on a walking bridge over the pond, but waited for
breaks in pedestrian traffic, snapped a quick picture, then
jumped back so that people enjoying the park weren’t impeded.
So much more mature and considerate! For them, people offered
of their own volition to wait to pass.
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Re: Public Spaces and Wedding Parties
By: Moose Date: July 4, 2018, 12:12 pm
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I would have probably moved if asked politely. Yes, it's a
public place but I can't imagine the one ray of sun in that
place being so important to me that I couldn't find another ray
of sun a few meters away for a bit, or stand up to stretch my
legs for a few minutes. I would personally feel horribly
selfish for not helping a couple out on their wedding day
(again, especially if I was asked politely). I think people
these days get so caught up in "I was right! I was here first!
It's all about me!" that we have forgotten about simple kindness
and being happy for others.
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Re: Public Spaces and Wedding Parties
By: Soop Date: July 4, 2018, 12:41 pm
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I really can't decide because we are only getting one side of
the story. Were they polite to her in the way they asked? Or
were they being the stereotypical wedding-zilla types.
From the pictures with the article, their photographer would
have to be pretty rubbish and lacking imagination if he or she
couldn't work around the situation. Looks like there are other
angles (after all the gazebo is round...go on the other side)
that would have worked.
My friends got married at city hall. We did tons of photos in
the square in front of the hall. With good camera work, you
couldn't even see any of the homeless people or city staff
eating their lunches or the food trucks.
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Re: Public Spaces and Wedding Parties
By: Pattycake Date: July 4, 2018, 1:47 pm
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At first I kind of agreed that well, she was there first... but
then yeah, it wouldn't have killed her to move for a bit. Then I
read that it is a well-known wedding picture spot, which likely
she should have known so I do think she should have chosen her
sunbathing spot a little more wisely. It's true, she may have
been a tourist though, so really, I don't know... !
#Post#: 7774--------------------------------------------------
Re: Public Spaces and Wedding Parties
By: NyaChan Date: July 4, 2018, 3:50 pm
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I wonder though:
1) for a really popular area, there might be more than one
wedding party on a given day (a situation described by a comment
in the article). Should everyone else just give up on using the
place if that happens?
2) how much effort in moving would excuse a person? If someone
was having a picnic, Should they pack up? What if they are
sitting in the gazebo?
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Re: Public Spaces and Wedding Parties
By: Bales Date: July 4, 2018, 4:23 pm
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Based on how they are quoted in the article, the wedding party
sounds entitled. The son was quoted as saying, "“I went up to
her and asked her to move and she pretended to be asleep,” he
said. “It’s a well-known wedding spot where you have photos
taken, so she would have known it goes on there. Half of Torquay
have their wedding photos in that garden.”
Sounds to me like they expected their purpose for being there to
take priority over anyone else's. And "asked her to move"
doesn't sound very polite, though who knows what phrasing was
used. However, if you're being quoted and trying to gain
sympathy for your position, I'd think he would have said, "I
asked if she wouldn't mind moving for just a few moments..." if
he was indeed polite about it. Then again, based on the photos
and the video, I'm sure they were there for more than a few
minutes taking pictures.
I do think the sunbather could have been courteous and moved
voluntarily, but don't fault her for likely being a bit irked at
having her own plans interrupted.
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Re: Public Spaces and Wedding Parties
By: guest426 Date: July 4, 2018, 4:58 pm
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To ask the sunbather to move would not be in itself rude, but
must be done politely, as the sunbather is under zero obligation
to comply with the request.
For the sunbather to choose not to move is not rude, it is a
public space and they were there first.
Far too often, "rude" is thought of as synonymous with "They
didn't do what I wanted them to do." Guess what, folks: that's
not the definition of rude.
#Post#: 7777--------------------------------------------------
Re: Public Spaces and Wedding Parties
By: Thitpualso Date: July 4, 2018, 5:17 pm
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When you choose to have Wedding pictures taken in a public space
where permits aren’t required, you take your chances. The Net
is filled with Weddings photobombed by hikers, cyclists and dog
walkers. I’ve even seen one with a class of day camp kidlets
marching across the background.
Yes, it would have been nice if the sunbather agreed to move but
it looks like there were plenty of angles that could have been
used to avoid her.
Some examples of worse entitlement may be found on the TV show
‘Four Weddings’ on which brides attend the Weddings of strangers
and rate each other. One Bride received a low rating because
she held her reception near the pool deck of a luxurious hotel
and the hotel did not ban guests from the area for the duration.
On another episode a Bride was downrated because the venue was
near an airport and planes could be heard during the ceremony.
Now, THAT’s entitled.
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