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#Post#: 7361--------------------------------------------------
Re: Question about how to address extreme religion (also regardi
ng children)
By: LifeOnPluto Date: June 29, 2018, 11:35 pm
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OP, I'm curious to know what would happen if you responded by
saying "God has spoken directly to ME, and He told me very
clearly that I was not to accept any gifts of essential oils." ?
#Post#: 7393--------------------------------------------------
Re: Question about how to address extreme religion (also regardi
ng children)
By: Aleko Date: June 30, 2018, 1:57 pm
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[quote]I vote "not mentally ill" because that's a pretty hefty
diagnosis from just the OP[/quote]
True. However, I think we can all agree that she's a fruitcake.
OP's description of her interaction with this relative keeps
making me think of this bit of dialogue from Ladyhawke (after
30-odd years, still one of my favourite films) :
Navarre: I have waited almost two years for a sign from God. So
when I heard the warning bells of Aquila I knew the moment of my
destiny has come. You will be my guiding angel.
Philippe: Me? Sir, the truth is, I talk to God all the time,
and no offense, but he never mentioned you.
Navarre (dashed): No?
#Post#: 7404--------------------------------------------------
Re: Question about how to address extreme religion (also regardi
ng children)
By: GardenGal Date: June 30, 2018, 4:05 pm
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[quote author=IceBear link=topic=431.msg7302#msg7302
date=1530304480]
She's quite close family, so it will be interesting around
holidays. We are in a position where we probably wouldn't go
visit them, but they would expect to be invited for Christmas. I
don't know how that will work because we have a couple of
friends/family who we would invite to such celebrations as well,
who are more allergic to scents than I am, and would either
have an asthma attack or instant headaches just from the smell
of her clothing, even if she hasn't used the oils.
Maybe we'll just insist that she wash all clothing she's worn
while using oils before she stays with us and then refrain from
using them. And then if she decides to stay elsewhere, oh well.
[/quote]
Given this info, and given her previous behavior, I don't think
there's a chance in e-Hell that she'll either wash the clothing
or refrain from using oils. Don't invite her and, when she
complains, tell her that you can't invite her because of how ill
the oils make you feel and that their scent permeates her
clothing. I suspect there will be more push back from her, but
tell her your health comes first. I wouldn't mention god at
all. And just because someone expects to be invited does not
mean you have to invite them. Your house, your rules.
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Re: Question about how to address extreme religion (also regardi
ng children)
By: MinMom3 Date: June 30, 2018, 7:46 pm
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Especially when safety is involved! Relatives do not get a free
pass on jeopardizing our health!
#Post#: 7427--------------------------------------------------
Re: Question about how to address extreme religion (also regardi
ng children)
By: Mel the Redcap Date: June 30, 2018, 9:57 pm
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[quote author=IceBear link=topic=431.msg7302#msg7302
date=1530304480]
She's quite close family, so it will be interesting around
holidays. We are in a position where we probably wouldn't go
visit them, but they would expect to be invited for Christmas. I
don't know how that will work because we have a couple of
friends/family who we would invite to such celebrations as well,
who are more allergic to scents than I am, and would either
have an asthma attack or instant headaches just from the smell
of her clothing, even if she hasn't used the oils.
Maybe we'll just insist that she wash all clothing she's worn
while using oils before she stays with us and then refrain from
using them. And then if she decides to stay elsewhere, oh well.
[/quote]
Just because she's family and expects to be invited, doesn't
mean you have to invite her. She's going to give you presents
that you can't use and make you and your other friends/family
seriously ill, and justify it all by saying that God told her it
would be fine (so of course when it isn't fine, somehow it's
your fault). You (hopefully!) wouldn't tolerate that from a
total stranger, so why should you tolerate it from someone who
should treat you better than a total stranger would?
#Post#: 7453--------------------------------------------------
Re: Question about how to address extreme religion (also regardi
ng children)
By: Twik Date: July 1, 2018, 9:29 am
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[quote author=GardenGal link=topic=431.msg7404#msg7404
date=1530392754]
[quote author=IceBear link=topic=431.msg7302#msg7302
date=1530304480]
She's quite close family, so it will be interesting around
holidays. We are in a position where we probably wouldn't go
visit them, but they would expect to be invited for Christmas. I
don't know how that will work because we have a couple of
friends/family who we would invite to such celebrations as well,
who are more allergic to scents than I am, and would either
have an asthma attack or instant headaches just from the smell
of her clothing, even if she hasn't used the oils.
Maybe we'll just insist that she wash all clothing she's worn
while using oils before she stays with us and then refrain from
using them. And then if she decides to stay elsewhere, oh well.
[/quote]
Given this info, and given her previous behavior, I don't think
there's a chance in e-Hell that she'll either wash the clothing
or refrain from using oils. Don't invite her and, when she
complains, tell her that you can't invite her because of how ill
the oils make you feel and that their scent permeates her
clothing. I suspect there will be more push back from her, but
tell her your health comes first. I wouldn't mention god at
all. And just because someone expects to be invited does not
mean you have to invite them. Your house, your rules.
[/quote]
I totally agree. She’s not go8ng to do it, and your friends will
end up getting sick.
#Post#: 7471--------------------------------------------------
Re: Question about how to address extreme religion (also regardi
ng children)
By: Elisabunny Date: July 1, 2018, 4:30 pm
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[quote author=LifeOnPluto link=topic=431.msg7361#msg7361
date=1530333355]
OP, I'm curious to know what would happen if you responded by
saying "God has spoken directly to ME, and He told me very
clearly that I was not to accept any gifts of essential oils." ?
[/quote]
In my religion, it would be perfectly acceptable, and even
appropriate, to say this. However, I doubt she would listen.
#Post#: 7672--------------------------------------------------
Re: Question about how to address extreme religion (also regardi
ng children)
By: IceBear Date: July 3, 2018, 10:34 am
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[quote author=LifeOnPluto link=topic=431.msg7361#msg7361
date=1530333355]
OP, I'm curious to know what would happen if you responded by
saying "God has spoken directly to ME, and He told me very
clearly that I was not to accept any gifts of essential oils." ?
[/quote]
The thought has occurred that maybe I just need to refer to my
own inner voice as God too. So I just might. :)
#Post#: 7674--------------------------------------------------
Re: Question about how to address extreme religion (also regardi
ng children)
By: guest426 Date: July 3, 2018, 10:45 am
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Before I answer, I will say that my answer includes the caviat
that I happen to believe in God, and that I have experienced
what I believe to have been indications of divine direction from
God (though such direct, personal experiences have been few, far
between, and very profound).
I don't think it would be rude to openly state that you don't
believe that her opinions are the product of any divide will or
command. It would be rude to ridicule her, and it would
probably be rude to suggest that she would benefit from a mental
health evaluation.
As far as the kids, I'd say let their parents deal with it.
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