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       #Post#: 7497--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "Getting Involved" 
       By: Venus193 Date: July 2, 2018, 7:06 am
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       I think you did the right thing.  What if the boy ran in front
       of a car?
       That the mother and daughter did nothing is disturbing also.
       That possibly speaks of fear based on past actions.
       #Post#: 7543--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "Getting Involved" 
       By: MrsG Date: July 2, 2018, 11:46 am
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       [quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=413.msg7482#msg7482
       date=1530492701]
       [quote author=puppylove link=topic=413.msg7481#msg7481
       date=1530491634]
       Wasn't one of the main complaints of the original forum about
       how posters would jump to conclusions about an OP's relationship
       based on one incident?
       [/quote]
       Yes. I have a problem with those sorts of sweeping
       pronouncements based on something small.
       [/quote]
       It's okay, they mean well. I know him well enough to know what
       he's capable of (especially since my late husband was a total
       abusive jerk - he's nothing at all like him).  He just feels
       that people don't set boundaries for their children enough and,
       honestly, I agree. I don't think people should beat their
       children, but they certainly need to stop being their 'friends'
       and be their parent. jmo Society wouldn't have half the issues
       it has at the moment if parents would parent.
       And we never saw this guy hit the kid. We saw him chase the kid.
       We knew, after the fact, that he DID, in fact, hit the kid
       because when we saw them in the museum later you could tell the
       kid had been smacked in the face.
       #Post#: 7547--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "Getting Involved" 
       By: TootsNYC Date: July 2, 2018, 12:03 pm
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       That's interesting! Did your BF modify his opinion a little
       after he saw that?
       I'm glad you did say something; people can use reminding that
       others are watching.
       #Post#: 7549--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "Getting Involved" 
       By: MrsG Date: July 2, 2018, 12:11 pm
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       [quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=413.msg7547#msg7547
       date=1530551003]
       That's interesting! Did your BF modify his opinion a little
       after he saw that?
       I'm glad you did say something; people can use reminding that
       others are watching.
       [/quote]
       Yes, actually he did - a little. When he realized that the guy
       had actually hit the kid he made the comment that the guy was
       definitely out of control. He knew that it was not a good
       situation all the way around but understood why I felt the need
       to say something. I think that had we seen the guy hit his son
       in the parking lot, his reaction might have been different.  ;)
       #Post#: 7553--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "Getting Involved" 
       By: TootsNYC Date: July 2, 2018, 12:23 pm
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       I think people sometimes react to subtle signals that others
       missed--and signals that they can't even really articulate or
       explain.
       That was probably you, in that parking lot, reading signals that
       alarmed you. And your BF wasn't as sensitive.
       #Post#: 7558--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "Getting Involved" 
       By: Girlie Date: July 2, 2018, 12:28 pm
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       I agree that children will need discipline at times - that's
       part of teaching them the difference between right and wrong and
       how to behave appropriately.
       However, I do believe that many parents (and many people, in
       general), sometimes fall into the habit of thinking of children
       as being somehow "lesser human" due to their lack of age and
       experience.  Discipline is one thing, but trying to chase
       someone around the parking lot while yelling obscenities at them
       and trying to smack them would never be appropriate if it was
       being done to another adult for breaking something - so why
       would anyone think it was okay to do it to a kid?
       I think the level to which you intervened, OP, was fine. I
       certainly don't think you did anything wrong.
       #Post#: 7559--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "Getting Involved" 
       By: TootsNYC Date: July 2, 2018, 12:29 pm
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       [quote]would never be appropriate if it was being done to
       another adult [/quote]
       I keep this in mind often, as a parent
       #Post#: 7562--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "Getting Involved" 
       By: MrsG Date: July 2, 2018, 12:56 pm
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       [quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=413.msg7553#msg7553
       date=1530552195]
       I think people sometimes react to subtle signals that others
       missed--and signals that they can't even really articulate or
       explain.
       That was probably you, in that parking lot, reading signals that
       alarmed you. And your BF wasn't as sensitive.
       [/quote]
       You're probably right Toots - I don't work CPS but I'm
       definitely trained for those signals so when I see something
       that's "off" I'm more than likely to address it whereas he's
       not.  ;) He was a butcher before he retired. He's an authority
       on meat, not people. lol
       #Post#: 7690--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "Getting Involved" 
       By: stonecoldnegan Date: July 3, 2018, 12:49 pm
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       I agree that you did the right thing, safety trumps etiquette
       and you felt that the young man was unsafe.
       Just here to offer an opinion from a french speaking person in
       Québec.. We use the word bastard (batard) to express
       frustration. I'm not saying you misheard (perhaps he really was
       calling his son a little bastard) but in my area of the province
       we could say “batard il faut chaud aujourdhui!”(meaning Damn its
       hot out today) or “Batard!je t'avais dit d'arrêter de jouer
       après la poignée de port!” (meaning Dang it! I told you to stop
       playing with the door handle).
       That being said, chasing your kid around a parking lot and
       threatening violence is a no-no here as well. Just thought I'd
       offer a little insight for the language :-D
       #Post#: 7696--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "Getting Involved" 
       By: Pattycake Date: July 3, 2018, 1:18 pm
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       [quote author=stonecoldnegan link=topic=413.msg7690#msg7690
       date=1530640163]
       I agree that you did the right thing, safety trumps etiquette
       and you felt that the young man was unsafe.
       Just here to offer an opinion from a french speaking person in
       Québec.. We use the word bastard (batard) to express
       frustration. I'm not saying you misheard (perhaps he really was
       calling his son a little bastard) but in my area of the province
       we could say “batard il faut chaud aujourdhui!”(meaning Damn its
       hot out today) or “Batard!je t'avais dit d'arrêter de jouer
       après la poignée de port!” (meaning Dang it! I told you to stop
       playing with the door handle).
       That being said, chasing your kid around a parking lot and
       threatening violence is a no-no here as well. Just thought I'd
       offer a little insight for the language :-D
       [/quote]
       Thank you - it is good to have insight from a native speaker.
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