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       #Post#: 6408--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Advice regarding next encounter with niece
       By: bopper Date: June 21, 2018, 10:20 pm
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       I would treat this is "help siblings clean out house" trip and
       see what happens.
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       Re: Advice regarding next encounter with niece
       By: Chez Miriam Date: June 22, 2018, 11:34 am
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       [quote author=bopper link=topic=404.msg6408#msg6408
       date=1529637640]
       I would treat this is "help siblings clean out house" trip and
       see what happens.
       [/quote]
       Yes; business not "pleasure". ;)
       #Post#: 6493--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Advice regarding next encounter with niece
       By: viviennebzb Date: June 22, 2018, 3:31 pm
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       I won't do the whole quote tree; however, I completely and
       totally agree with the last few posts. You already have a full
       plate on this trip with the house project. We really ask too
       much of ourselves sometimes, spare yourself this unnecessary
       complication. Take care of you.
       #Post#: 6573--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Advice regarding next encounter with niece
       By: ncgal Date: June 23, 2018, 1:22 pm
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       [quote author=GardenGal link=topic=404.msg6347#msg6347
       date=1529612200]
       She unfriended you, you never enjoyed visiting her in the first
       place, you're going to NJ for an emotionally trying time, and it
       doesn't sound like you care for her very much.  Four really good
       reasons for your NOT to visit her.
       [/quote]
       This.  Don't waste your energy even thinking about her.
       #Post#: 6586--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Advice regarding next encounter with niece
       By: VorFemme Date: June 23, 2018, 5:33 pm
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       This is a "clean out the house" visit - if the house cleaning
       takes less time than you're spending there, you could try
       contacting niece to see if she's open to lunch or meeting for
       coffee.
       If you end up having no time to do anything but clean house &
       get it ready to put up for sale - well, that's a full five weeks
       indeed, from what I've seen happen with friends & more distant
       family members.
       Most of the family ended up relocating to live with family or in
       a "home" of some kind (assisted living) and the amount of stuff
       that was taken with them to the new location was pared down
       considerably before they moved.  In many cases, the old family
       home was no longer owned by the family when the elderly person
       passed away - so that kind of visit was not needed.
       I did help Mom pack the last of Dad's stuff off to the Goodwill
       when I was up to see her 11 months after he passed away
       (lymphoma treatment).  She found it easier to sit & sort things
       a little at a time - but she was also methodical enough to
       finish the job.
       Now if only she'd take the time to sort out her kitchen with all
       the cleaned out old margarine tubs (or whatever was in there
       when the container was new & sold at the store) - because her
       shelves are still a bit over stuffed in places.  Maybe the next
       time I'm there...?
       #Post#: 6599--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Advice regarding next encounter with niece
       By: Runningstar Date: June 24, 2018, 8:39 am
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       I actually would try reaching out to niece at some point other
       than this cleaning out visit.  Not to negate your upset over the
       facebook stuff, but to say what I would do.   Because imo  she
       has a point about being hurt over not being invited, being hurt
       is not something you really choose to be.  She should come here
       and vent about it!  I am that niece in my family, sadly, but I
       choose to act politely and as if I haven't noticed.
       On my mother's side of the family I am not invited to anything,
       while my mother, brother and his family are.  When visiting my
       mom, I saw the cousin's wedding invitation that said something
       like "we want to invite those who have been a part of our
       lives".  It stung a bit as they would not come to my events and
       didn't invite me to theirs.  So where was my chance to be a part
       of their lives?   Aunt does come to my events, and after the
       wedding brought pictures for me so that I could see how
       beautiful everything was.  I was polite and adult about it and
       looked through them and complimented them.  It reaffirmed to me
       that everyone sees this as ok, so umm.... ok.
       I just leave it be, no facebook unfriending, no snarky ill hid
       comments.  I just accept it as it is and figure that some day
       I'll get it.  Maybe I do things unknowingly that have ended all
       chances.  Can't ask my mom about it as she is a drama stirrer
       and that would be front page news.
       #Post#: 6605--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Advice regarding next encounter with niece
       By: lakey Date: June 24, 2018, 1:28 pm
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       [quote]When visiting my mom, I saw the cousin's wedding
       invitation that said something like "we want to invite those who
       have been a part of our lives".  It stung a bit as they would
       not come to my events and didn't invite me to theirs.  So where
       was my chance to be a part of their lives?   Aunt does come to
       my events, and after the wedding brought pictures for me so that
       I could see how beautiful everything was.  [/quote]
       Showing you the photos from a wedding to which you hadn't been
       invited sounds pretty clueless. It's possible that someone said
       something about you to family members that have caused them to
       not invite you. I've seen estrangements in families that were
       based on false information or exaggeration of something that had
       happened. Hugs.
       #Post#: 6816--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Advice regarding next encounter with niece
       By: bopper Date: June 26, 2018, 9:42 am
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       If somehow she says anything after this trip..."I was cleaning
       out my parents house...I had no idea you wanted to help. I will
       keep that in mind for next time."
       #Post#: 6920--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Advice regarding next encounter with niece
       By: collakat Date: June 27, 2018, 4:01 am
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       I don't think you need to explain yourself or let us tell you
       how you must feel about your niece. If you don't want to visit
       her, then don't. There has been a lot of great phrases if she
       ever brings it up. Don't say maybe next time if you don't mean
       it. Good luck
       #Post#: 8375--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Advice regarding next encounter with niece
       By: Amethyst Anne Date: July 11, 2018, 2:00 pm
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       Thank you, everyone! I’m sorry for the delay in responding to
       all of your kind replies. My DFIL passed away after several
       weeks of his health declining. During this time, my sister(the
       mother of the bride) came and visited my branch of the family
       for a week.
       I printed out my initial query and all the wise suggestions. I
       showed it to Sister, and she told me other things that
       Brother’sDD said during the time of Sister’sDD’s wedding. Just
       more of the same that I outlined in my initial post. I showed
       the print-out to my DD’s and DDIL. They agree with you.
       I’ve spent a great amount of time thinking about what all of you
       lovely people had told me. And asked myself how my own aunts and
       uncles would have said/done had I acted like
       Brother’sDD......they would have taken a step back and left me
       alone. My parents would have pointed out the temper tantrum, and
       taken a step back.
       I’m not going to contact Brother’sDD during this trip to New
       Jersey.
       On a humorous flight-of-fancy:
       ImmatureMe wanted to blast Brother’sDD’s face off
       verbally.......AdultMe pushed ImmatureMe into the upstairs craft
       room, pointed out all the wonderful Works-In-Progress, and
       closed the door. :D
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