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Communicating Politely with Recruiters
By: MarisaWood Date: June 13, 2018, 10:38 am
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Do you get phone calls or emails from recruiters? How have you
let them know you're interested (or not) politely? Here's the
thread for that!
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Re: Communicating Politely with Recruiters
By: DaDancingPsych Date: June 14, 2018, 11:58 am
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No, I am the recruiter who sends those emails and makes those
phone calls. (Although I tend to lean towards emails as I feel
that they are less intrusive, but maybe others feel
differently.)
Expressing interest politely seems easy enough. "Yes, I am
interested" will work. However, if there are any speculations or
things that you are desiring in a job that were not mentioned
within the original job description, then I would like those
mentioned up front to avoid wasting your time. "I may be
interested, but I am looking for a position with flexible hours.
Does this opportunity offer that?"
Expressing that you are not interested politely also seems easy.
"No thanks." However, if you want me to better steer future
communications, it is great for both of us if you explain why.
"I just accepted another position." (I will avoid contacting you
for probably a year.) "I am looking for something in a XYZ
location." (I will tailor future positions.) "This does not
match my skill set." (Opps, my bad! I will try to do better next
time and you may have even helped me better understand what you
do.)
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Re: Communicating Politely with Recruiters
By: MarisaWood Date: June 16, 2018, 1:52 am
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[quote author=DaDancingPsych link=topic=371.msg5550#msg5550
date=1528995538]
No, I am the recruiter who sends those emails and makes those
phone calls. (Although I tend to lean towards emails as I feel
that they are less intrusive, but maybe others feel
differently.)
Expressing interest politely seems easy enough. "Yes, I am
interested" will work. However, if there are any speculations or
things that you are desiring in a job that were not mentioned
within the original job description, then I would like those
mentioned up front to avoid wasting your time. "I may be
interested, but I am looking for a position with flexible hours.
Does this opportunity offer that?"
[/quote]
Thanks for your input! I actually was contacted about a
possible temp-to-hire opportunity recently--and it's good to
know I did fine! Here's my response to the recruiter, whom I've
been working with for a little over a year for temp work:
"Hi [recruiter],
I was looking at job listings on Indeed this weekend and saw a
posting for [job]. I didn't apply because I thought this might
be that job. If it is, then I have a couple of
questions/concerns.
1. The listing mentions that the HR Coordinator would have to
participate in career and hiring fairs. How much travel would
be required, and would a driver's license be required?
2. Is overtime required? (If so, then unfortunately I'll have
to pass on this opportunity--my doctors have ordered me not to
work more than 40 hours per week.)
3. The listing says that being comfortable with public speaking
is required. I'm fine one-on-one, but I have to admit that
public speaking in front of a group is not something I'm
comfortable with. That's why I've done best in back-office
types of roles."
The job turned out not to be a fit for me, because of exactly
the three things I was asking about. A driver's license,
mandatory overtime, and comfort with public speaking were all
required. When I apologized to the recruiter, she told me:
"We absolutely appreciate that you ask those questions up-front,
especially when considering a potential temp-to-hire fit. You
are definitely doing the right thing from our side."
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Re: Communicating Politely with Recruiters
By: DaDancingPsych Date: June 18, 2018, 11:12 am
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Waterlight, I agree, it was great that your were forthcoming.
Why waste anyone's time (including your own) if you know certain
things will be deal breakers for you? Plus, I (and I assume
other recruiters) take notes and I would avoid sending you
openings that have any of these.
I will say that some times I do not know the answers to upfront
questions and sometimes it is tricky to get them answered by
busy hiring managers. I typically then will encourage the
applicant to apply and I either add a note to the submission.
"Hiring Manager, Waterlight is interested in the position, but
has been clear that she does not have a driver's license, if
this a requirement." Or I will encourage the applicant to
discuss these concerns within an interview situation.
Otherwise, I say the more you communicate the better the
recruiter can do for you!
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Re: Communicating Politely with Recruiters
By: guest426 Date: June 18, 2018, 12:58 pm
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[quote author=DaDancingPsych link=topic=371.msg5550#msg5550
date=1528995538]
No, I am the recruiter who sends those emails and makes those
phone calls. (Although I tend to lean towards emails as I feel
that they are less intrusive, but maybe others feel
differently.)
Expressing interest politely seems easy enough. "Yes, I am
interested" will work. However, if there are any speculations or
things that you are desiring in a job that were not mentioned
within the original job description, then I would like those
mentioned up front to avoid wasting your time. "I may be
interested, but I am looking for a position with flexible hours.
Does this opportunity offer that?"
Expressing that you are not interested politely also seems easy.
"No thanks." However, if you want me to better steer future
communications, it is great for both of us if you explain why.
"I just accepted another position." (I will avoid contacting you
for probably a year.) "I am looking for something in a XYZ
location." (I will tailor future positions.) "This does not
match my skill set." (Opps, my bad! I will try to do better next
time and you may have even helped me better understand what you
do.)
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Well, I just express my lack of interest by marking your email
as spam so everything you send me in the future never reaches my
in-box.
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Re: Communicating Politely with Recruiters
By: Nikko-chan Date: June 18, 2018, 1:02 pm
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When I first saw this I thought of a whole different type of
recruiter [emoji23]
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Re: Communicating Politely with Recruiters
By: ladameestmorte Date: June 18, 2018, 10:43 pm
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I just tell them that I'm happy in my job for now but will
definitely contact them should that change in the future. Also,
I ask the recruiter if it's okay to pass on their information to
coworkers I think might be interested. And I definitely keep
the recruiter's contact information because you never know when
you might need one and no sense burning bridges!
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Re: Communicating Politely with Recruiters
By: DaDancingPsych Date: June 19, 2018, 11:08 am
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[quote author=MrTango link=topic=371.msg5892#msg5892
date=1529344733]
[quote author=DaDancingPsych link=topic=371.msg5550#msg5550
date=1528995538]
No, I am the recruiter who sends those emails and makes those
phone calls. (Although I tend to lean towards emails as I feel
that they are less intrusive, but maybe others feel
differently.)
Expressing interest politely seems easy enough. "Yes, I am
interested" will work. However, if there are any speculations or
things that you are desiring in a job that were not mentioned
within the original job description, then I would like those
mentioned up front to avoid wasting your time. "I may be
interested, but I am looking for a position with flexible hours.
Does this opportunity offer that?"
Expressing that you are not interested politely also seems easy.
"No thanks." However, if you want me to better steer future
communications, it is great for both of us if you explain why.
"I just accepted another position." (I will avoid contacting you
for probably a year.) "I am looking for something in a XYZ
location." (I will tailor future positions.) "This does not
match my skill set." (Opps, my bad! I will try to do better next
time and you may have even helped me better understand what you
do.)
[/quote]
Well, I just express my lack of interest by marking your email
as spam so everything you send me in the future never reaches my
in-box.
[/quote]
That is certainly a way to handle it. I take notes of those who
never respond and eventually stop contacting them figuring that
they must not be interested. I mean, it would be nice to not be
ignored, but no one owes me anything. I have come to realize
that when people post their resumes online that they get
overwhelmed with the messages, so I get why they may choose to
filter their emails.
When I took my job as a recruiter, I was super excited that I
would get to help people find jobs. It was rather disheartening
to learn that most people would not see my job in the same way.
#Post#: 6009--------------------------------------------------
Re: Communicating Politely with Recruiters
By: Figgie Date: June 19, 2018, 11:22 am
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My spouse works in an area that is fairly specialized and he
gets multiple recruiter contacts every week. He will respond to
the recruiters only when it is apparent that the recruiter has
actually read his online LinkedIn profile (which happens almost
never). Most of the recruiters that contact him are the
equivalent of cold calling sales people. They use a computer
program that searches for keywords and then send out scattershot
emails that show that they don't understand what my spouse does
or that they haven't read his information or both.
Those recruiters get blocked immediately both on his phone and
via his email. As he says...he doesn't care to work with anyone
that careless. :)
Real recruiters will email and he can tell that they actually
read his information and know what he does for a living. Them
he actually will respond to. He tells me it is pretty easy to
tell the difference :)
#Post#: 8766--------------------------------------------------
Re: Communicating Politely with Recruiters
By: MarisaWood Date: July 15, 2018, 4:49 pm
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An update, of sorts:
The recruiter I was talking to earlier let me know the company
had decided to go with another candidate. Not because of the
questions I'd asked, but because I was currently working and
they needed to fill the position immediately.
She also mentioned to me that the person previously in the job
had left suddenly.
Both the need to fill the position immediately and the sudden
departure send up red flags for me. "Sudden departure," to a
former HR lady like me, can mean one of two things: either
Previous Employee got fired, or quit without notice.
And both a rushed recruitment process and sudden departures were
all-too-common occurrences at my former toxic job. During my
sixteen months of hell in that place, over one-third (of a staff
of thirty) employees quit with little to no notice:
--Two gave a two-week notice, but didn't stay the full two
weeks;
--Three (and I'm including myself as one of the three) left at
the end of a shift and never came back;
--Two gave a week's notice or less;
--Four walked off the job in mid-shift.
The absolute last thing I need is to walk into another situation
like that--and I have a sneaking suspicion that I dodged a
bullet.
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