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       Re: Can we talk cheese again?
       By: Aleko Date: June 26, 2018, 10:31 am
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       [quote]Quote from: Aleko on Today at 03:00:31 am
       [quote]I love a proper mature cheddar, aged long enough for the
       amino acids to cluster and make it slightly crunchy, rather as
       Parmesan is crunchy.  I used to pine for it but it was really
       hard to find - only real artisans making for gourmets produced
       it, because they knew that a lot of people would think that
       crunch in cheddar is wrong, and imagine that it was caused by
       additives, excess salt, cheese mites or something, and go
       'Eeew!' But now in the UK several supermarkets carry it, clearly
       labelled as 'Crunchy Cheddar' so customers know it's supposed to
       be like that, and it's selling well. I have induced several
       friends to try it whose initial reaction to the idea was
       "Crunchy Cheddar? Is that even a thing?' and they all loved
       it.[/quote]
       I kind of know what you mean, and I think that would be awesome!
       Can you share a brand name so I can see if it's available
       here?[/quote]
       Well, I usually go to Aldi (a German discount supermarket that
       has recently taken Britain by storm, which I believe operates
       Trader Joe's in the US) for their own-brand crunchy cheddar. And
       Wyke Farms, Britain's largest chees producers, make one too.
       #Post#: 6839--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can we talk cheese again?
       By: Chez Miriam Date: June 26, 2018, 11:15 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Aleko link=topic=356.msg6831#msg6831
       date=1530027107]
       [quote]Quote from: Aleko on Today at 03:00:31 am
       [quote]I love a proper mature cheddar, aged long enough for the
       amino acids to cluster and make it slightly crunchy, rather as
       Parmesan is crunchy.  I used to pine for it but it was really
       hard to find - only real artisans making for gourmets produced
       it, because they knew that a lot of people would think that
       crunch in cheddar is wrong, and imagine that it was caused by
       additives, excess salt, cheese mites or something, and go
       'Eeew!' But now in the UK several supermarkets carry it, clearly
       labelled as 'Crunchy Cheddar' so customers know it's supposed to
       be like that, and it's selling well. I have induced several
       friends to try it whose initial reaction to the idea was
       "Crunchy Cheddar? Is that even a thing?' and they all loved
       it.[/quote]
       I kind of know what you mean, and I think that would be awesome!
       Can you share a brand name so I can see if it's available
       here?[/quote]
       Well, I usually go to Aldi (a German discount supermarket that
       has recently taken Britain by storm, which I believe operates
       Trader Joe's in the US) for their own-brand crunchy cheddar. And
       Wyke Farms, Britain's largest chees producers, make one too.
       [/quote]
       Thanks, Aleko, that's a brand to look for.
       #Post#: 6855--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can we talk cheese again?
       By: Pattycake Date: June 26, 2018, 1:53 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=356.msg6812#msg6812
       date=1530023859]
       [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=356.msg6804#msg6804
       date=1530022997]
       [quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=356.msg6794#msg6794
       date=1530021200]
       [quote author=Pattycake link=topic=356.msg6792#msg6792
       date=1530020903]
       [quote author=Aleko link=topic=356.msg6762#msg6762
       date=1530000031]
       I love a proper mature cheddar, aged long enough for the amino
       acids to cluster and make it slightly crunchy, rather as
       Parmesan is crunchy.  I used to pine for it but it was really
       hard to find - only real artisans making for gourmets produced
       it, because they knew that a lot of people would think that
       crunch in cheddar is wrong, and imagine that it was caused by
       additives, excess salt, cheese mites or something, and go
       'Eeew!' But now in the UK several supermarkets carry it, clearly
       labelled as 'Crunchy Cheddar' so customers know it's supposed to
       be like that, and it's selling well. I have induced several
       friends to try it whose initial reaction to the idea was
       "Crunchy Cheddar? Is that even a thing?' and they all loved it.
       [/quote]
       I kind of know what you mean, and I think that would be awesome!
       Can you share a brand name so I can see if it's available here?
       [/quote]
       It sounds like the "Judy cheese" I mentioned upthread.  I would
       like a brand name, too, so that I can tell my husband to try
       some.
       [/quote]
       If you are in the states and have one close, Trader Joe's Well
       Aged Cheddar often have the Tyrosine clusters that create the
       crunchy bits.
       [/quote]
       I'm in the UK, and Pattycake is in Canada [if I remember
       correctly], but your answer makes me think we might already be
       choosing something similar: our cheddar is always "vintage" or
       "extra mature" or "very strong", so thanks for provoking those
       thoughts.
       [/quote]
       I am, and those words give me some better idea what to look for.
       I do recall now that some "aged" or "old/extra old" (we don't go
       for the euphemisms, apparently  ;D) have had that texture. Guess
       i haven't bought any in a long time.
       #Post#: 6857--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can we talk cheese again?
       By: Chez Miriam Date: June 26, 2018, 1:59 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Pattycake link=topic=356.msg6855#msg6855
       date=1530039210]
       [quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=356.msg6812#msg6812
       date=1530023859]
       [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=356.msg6804#msg6804
       date=1530022997]
       [quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=356.msg6794#msg6794
       date=1530021200]
       [quote author=Pattycake link=topic=356.msg6792#msg6792
       date=1530020903]
       [quote author=Aleko link=topic=356.msg6762#msg6762
       date=1530000031]
       I love a proper mature cheddar, aged long enough for the amino
       acids to cluster and make it slightly crunchy, rather as
       Parmesan is crunchy.  I used to pine for it but it was really
       hard to find - only real artisans making for gourmets produced
       it, because they knew that a lot of people would think that
       crunch in cheddar is wrong, and imagine that it was caused by
       additives, excess salt, cheese mites or something, and go
       'Eeew!' But now in the UK several supermarkets carry it, clearly
       labelled as 'Crunchy Cheddar' so customers know it's supposed to
       be like that, and it's selling well. I have induced several
       friends to try it whose initial reaction to the idea was
       "Crunchy Cheddar? Is that even a thing?' and they all loved it.
       [/quote]
       I kind of know what you mean, and I think that would be awesome!
       Can you share a brand name so I can see if it's available here?
       [/quote]
       It sounds like the "Judy cheese" I mentioned upthread.  I would
       like a brand name, too, so that I can tell my husband to try
       some.
       [/quote]
       If you are in the states and have one close, Trader Joe's Well
       Aged Cheddar often have the Tyrosine clusters that create the
       crunchy bits.
       [/quote]
       I'm in the UK, and Pattycake is in Canada [if I remember
       correctly], but your answer makes me think we might already be
       choosing something similar: our cheddar is always "vintage" or
       "extra mature" or "very strong", so thanks for provoking those
       thoughts.
       [/quote]
       I am, and those words give me some better idea what to look for.
       I do recall now that some "aged" or "old/extra old" (we don't go
       for the euphemisms, apparently  ;D) have had that texture. Guess
       i haven't bought any in a long time.
       [/quote]
       If we were doing away with euphemisms, at least half the cheese
       that enters this house would be labelled "stinky" rather than
       "mature".[emoji12]
       #Post#: 6874--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can we talk cheese again?
       By: Hmmm Date: June 26, 2018, 3:34 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=356.msg6857#msg6857
       date=1530039576]
       [quote author=Pattycake link=topic=356.msg6855#msg6855
       date=1530039210]
       [quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=356.msg6812#msg6812
       date=1530023859]
       [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=356.msg6804#msg6804
       date=1530022997]
       [quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=356.msg6794#msg6794
       date=1530021200]
       [quote author=Pattycake link=topic=356.msg6792#msg6792
       date=1530020903]
       [quote author=Aleko link=topic=356.msg6762#msg6762
       date=1530000031]
       I love a proper mature cheddar, aged long enough for the amino
       acids to cluster and make it slightly crunchy, rather as
       Parmesan is crunchy.  I used to pine for it but it was really
       hard to find - only real artisans making for gourmets produced
       it, because they knew that a lot of people would think that
       crunch in cheddar is wrong, and imagine that it was caused by
       additives, excess salt, cheese mites or something, and go
       'Eeew!' But now in the UK several supermarkets carry it, clearly
       labelled as 'Crunchy Cheddar' so customers know it's supposed to
       be like that, and it's selling well. I have induced several
       friends to try it whose initial reaction to the idea was
       "Crunchy Cheddar? Is that even a thing?' and they all loved it.
       [/quote]
       I kind of know what you mean, and I think that would be awesome!
       Can you share a brand name so I can see if it's available here?
       [/quote]
       It sounds like the "Judy cheese" I mentioned upthread.  I would
       like a brand name, too, so that I can tell my husband to try
       some.
       [/quote]
       If you are in the states and have one close, Trader Joe's Well
       Aged Cheddar often have the Tyrosine clusters that create the
       crunchy bits.
       [/quote]
       I'm in the UK, and Pattycake is in Canada [if I remember
       correctly], but your answer makes me think we might already be
       choosing something similar: our cheddar is always "vintage" or
       "extra mature" or "very strong", so thanks for provoking those
       thoughts.
       [/quote]
       I am, and those words give me some better idea what to look for.
       I do recall now that some "aged" or "old/extra old" (we don't go
       for the euphemisms, apparently  ;D) have had that texture. Guess
       i haven't bought any in a long time.
       [/quote]
       If we were doing away with euphemisms, at least half the cheese
       that enters this house would be labelled "stinky" rather than
       "mature".[emoji12]
       [/quote]
       There's stinky and then there is stinky!  We love some strong
       cheeses in our family but years ago we learned our limit after
       ordering an after dinner cheese course at a small (maybe 30
       tables) restaurant while visiting Washington DC. We picked 4
       from a list and most of them we knew nothing about. We were
       sitting toward the front of the restaurant. DH noticed our
       waiter coming out of the kitchen and people turning toward him
       with wrinkled noses as he passed. DH utters "uh oh, I think that
       is coming to us". The waiter places the plate on our table and
       begins to indicate which cheese is which, while my daughter
       looks like she is going to pass out, my son is trying not to
       gag, and all of our nearby dining companions are glaring at us
       with horror. Before the waiter could finish, DH has requested he
       return the plate to the kitchen. The waiter grabs an empty glass
       from another table and covers the offending cheese. The owner
       came by with a complimentary plate and said he wasn't sure who
       had ordered that cheese but he was going to make them eat the
       entire 3 lbs he had in the back.  :D
       #Post#: 6878--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can we talk cheese again?
       By: caroled Date: June 26, 2018, 4:04 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=356.msg6874#msg6874
       date=1530045272]
       [quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=356.msg6857#msg6857
       date=1530039576]
       [quote author=Pattycake link=topic=356.msg6855#msg6855
       date=1530039210]
       [quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=356.msg6812#msg6812
       date=1530023859]
       [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=356.msg6804#msg6804
       date=1530022997]
       [quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=356.msg6794#msg6794
       date=1530021200]
       [quote author=Pattycake link=topic=356.msg6792#msg6792
       date=1530020903]
       [quote author=Aleko link=topic=356.msg6762#msg6762
       date=1530000031]
       I love a proper mature cheddar, aged long enough for the amino
       acids to cluster and make it slightly crunchy, rather as
       Parmesan is crunchy.  I used to pine for it but it was really
       hard to find - only real artisans making for gourmets produced
       it, because they knew that a lot of people would think that
       crunch in cheddar is wrong, and imagine that it was caused by
       additives, excess salt, cheese mites or something, and go
       'Eeew!' But now in the UK several supermarkets carry it, clearly
       labelled as 'Crunchy Cheddar' so customers know it's supposed to
       be like that, and it's selling well. I have induced several
       friends to try it whose initial reaction to the idea was
       "Crunchy Cheddar? Is that even a thing?' and they all loved it.
       [/quote]
       I kind of know what you mean, and I think that would be awesome!
       Can you share a brand name so I can see if it's available here?
       [/quote]
       It sounds like the "Judy cheese" I mentioned upthread.  I would
       like a brand name, too, so that I can tell my husband to try
       some.
       [/quote]
       If you are in the states and have one close, Trader Joe's Well
       Aged Cheddar often have the Tyrosine clusters that create the
       crunchy bits.
       [/quote]
       I'm in the UK, and Pattycake is in Canada [if I remember
       correctly], but your answer makes me think we might already be
       choosing something similar: our cheddar is always "vintage" or
       "extra mature" or "very strong", so thanks for provoking those
       thoughts.
       [/quote]
       I am, and those words give me some better idea what to look for.
       I do recall now that some "aged" or "old/extra old" (we don't go
       for the euphemisms, apparently  ;D) have had that texture. Guess
       i haven't bought any in a long time.
       [/quote]
       If we were doing away with euphemisms, at least half the cheese
       that enters this house would be labelled "stinky" rather than
       "mature".[emoji12]
       [/quote]
       There's stinky and then there is stinky!  We love some strong
       cheeses in our family but years ago we learned our limit after
       ordering an after dinner cheese course at a small (maybe 30
       tables) restaurant while visiting Washington DC. We picked 4
       from a list and most of them we knew nothing about. We were
       sitting toward the front of the restaurant. DH noticed our
       waiter coming out of the kitchen and people turning toward him
       with wrinkled noses as he passed. DH utters "uh oh, I think that
       is coming to us". The waiter places the plate on our table and
       begins to indicate which cheese is which, while my daughter
       looks like she is going to pass out, my son is trying not to
       gag, and all of our nearby dining companions are glaring at us
       with horror. Before the waiter could finish, DH has requested he
       return the plate to the kitchen. The waiter grabs an empty glass
       from another table and covers the offending cheese. The owner
       came by with a complimentary plate and said he wasn't sure who
       had ordered that cheese but he was going to make them eat the
       entire 3 lbs he had in the back.  :D
       [/quote]
       Too funny!
       I love a stinky cheese. Give me some Esrom and Limburger and I'm
       a happy girl.
       #Post#: 6958--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can we talk cheese again?
       By: Chez Miriam Date: June 27, 2018, 9:56 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=356.msg6874#msg6874
       date=1530045272]
       [quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=356.msg6857#msg6857
       date=1530039576]
       [quote author=Pattycake link=topic=356.msg6855#msg6855
       date=1530039210]
       [quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=356.msg6812#msg6812
       date=1530023859]
       [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=356.msg6804#msg6804
       date=1530022997]
       [quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=356.msg6794#msg6794
       date=1530021200]
       [quote author=Pattycake link=topic=356.msg6792#msg6792
       date=1530020903]
       [quote author=Aleko link=topic=356.msg6762#msg6762
       date=1530000031]
       I love a proper mature cheddar, aged long enough for the amino
       acids to cluster and make it slightly crunchy, rather as
       Parmesan is crunchy.  I used to pine for it but it was really
       hard to find - only real artisans making for gourmets produced
       it, because they knew that a lot of people would think that
       crunch in cheddar is wrong, and imagine that it was caused by
       additives, excess salt, cheese mites or something, and go
       'Eeew!' But now in the UK several supermarkets carry it, clearly
       labelled as 'Crunchy Cheddar' so customers know it's supposed to
       be like that, and it's selling well. I have induced several
       friends to try it whose initial reaction to the idea was
       "Crunchy Cheddar? Is that even a thing?' and they all loved it.
       [/quote]
       I kind of know what you mean, and I think that would be awesome!
       Can you share a brand name so I can see if it's available here?
       [/quote]
       It sounds like the "Judy cheese" I mentioned upthread.  I would
       like a brand name, too, so that I can tell my husband to try
       some.
       [/quote]
       If you are in the states and have one close, Trader Joe's Well
       Aged Cheddar often have the Tyrosine clusters that create the
       crunchy bits.
       [/quote]
       I'm in the UK, and Pattycake is in Canada [if I remember
       correctly], but your answer makes me think we might already be
       choosing something similar: our cheddar is always "vintage" or
       "extra mature" or "very strong", so thanks for provoking those
       thoughts.
       [/quote]
       I am, and those words give me some better idea what to look for.
       I do recall now that some "aged" or "old/extra old" (we don't go
       for the euphemisms, apparently  ;D) have had that texture. Guess
       i haven't bought any in a long time.
       [/quote]
       If we were doing away with euphemisms, at least half the cheese
       that enters this house would be labelled "stinky" rather than
       "mature".[emoji12]
       [/quote]
       There's stinky and then there is stinky!  We love some strong
       cheeses in our family but years ago we learned our limit after
       ordering an after dinner cheese course at a small (maybe 30
       tables) restaurant while visiting Washington DC. We picked 4
       from a list and most of them we knew nothing about. We were
       sitting toward the front of the restaurant. DH noticed our
       waiter coming out of the kitchen and people turning toward him
       with wrinkled noses as he passed. DH utters "uh oh, I think that
       is coming to us". The waiter places the plate on our table and
       begins to indicate which cheese is which, while my daughter
       looks like she is going to pass out, my son is trying not to
       gag, and all of our nearby dining companions are glaring at us
       with horror. Before the waiter could finish, DH has requested he
       return the plate to the kitchen. The waiter grabs an empty glass
       from another table and covers the offending cheese. The owner
       came by with a complimentary plate and said he wasn't sure who
       had ordered that cheese but he was going to make them eat the
       entire 3 lbs he had in the back.  :D
       [/quote]
       I think you win the thread. ;D ;D ;D
       #Post#: 7114--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can we talk cheese again?
       By: NewHomeowner Date: June 28, 2018, 10:13 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=MOM21SON link=topic=356.msg6399#msg6399
       date=1529630698]
       Today's haul brought in smoked gouda with bacon, aged cheddar
       with onions, smoked gouda and a wonderful aged sharp cheddar.
       Friend wants to go to the new store I found on Saturday.
       Whiskey cheddar is already on my list!
       [/quote]
       Oh, I'm drooling now.  I *love* cheese, of all kinds.
       #Post#: 7132--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can we talk cheese again?
       By: Jayhawk Date: June 28, 2018, 12:20 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       DH and I will be in the Wisconsin Dells and Madison area for a
       couple of days next months. Cheese shopping is high on the list.
       #Post#: 7138--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can we talk cheese again?
       By: Chez Miriam Date: June 28, 2018, 12:42 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Jayhawk's post reminded me of the mozzarella my husband
       travelled with: it went from Brussels to the Costa Brava, to
       Milan, and then back to Brussels...
       He said it was the best he ever tasted. :o
       If I'd been his friends, I'm pretty sure I would have made sure
       to eat the thing after it had travelled the first 13 hours!
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