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       Re: Baby Shower Planning
       By: chigger Date: August 7, 2025, 11:57 am
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       Gellcom, the expectant Mom does want games!
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       Re: Baby Shower Planning
       By: jpcher Date: August 7, 2025, 4:16 pm
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       Thanks, gellchom -- I appreciate all of your thoughts!
       [quote author=gellchom link=topic=2638.msg82042#msg82042
       date=1754513270]
       So what are you planning to do all that time?
       [/quote]
       chigger is correct -- Mom2B would like lots of games.
       Interactive type of games. With people moving around, meeting
       other guests, instead of staying seated in the same spot for
       three hours. Even with some games including invited children.
       We did change the time to 2-5 p.m. After lunch and before
       dinner.
       Okay, I'll agree that it is more of a social event celebrating
       the soon birth of a child. Since we won't be opening gifts, we
       won't mention the word "shower" in the invite (lowsparks wording
       is perfect).
       I understand that some people like the gift opening process
       (especially with special chosen/crafted gifts). And maybe? If
       it's done correctly? it might not be a bad thing.
       We attended my Niece's baby shower. She had rows of folding
       chairs set up in her living room. Neice was front and center in
       her special chair, opening gifts. For three hours. SHE was the
       star of the show, while we all watched. And that's what it was.
       No interaction amongst guests, no games, really no fun at all.
       From DD#1 . . . PLEASE don't make our shower be like Niece's!
       DD#1 doesn't want to sit on center stage opening gifts. She'd
       rather move around and talk to her guests. Thank them for
       coming, enjoy their company.
       #Post#: 82046--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Baby Shower Planning
       By: EmmaJ Date: August 7, 2025, 5:55 pm
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       If you do change your mind and want to serve a light lunch, my
       grocery store (Publix) sells oversized sub sandwiches pretty
       inexpensively.  They can be cut into 12 to 14 slices and contain
       meat, cheese, lettuce and tomato and the condiments are served
       separately so each person can add as much mustard and mayo as
       they like.
       Add some chips and a potato salad from the deli and you have a
       nice no-fuss lunch and you don't even have to cook anything!
       #Post#: 82047--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Baby Shower Planning
       By: Rho Date: August 7, 2025, 10:51 pm
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       Maybe because I worked retail for years returning the gifts only
       to re purchase struck me as unethical. Lots of extra work for
       the employees processing the returns. If Macys offers to ship
       gifts for free I must be wrong.  I was talking to cousin/Grooms
       mother at shower and one of the hostesses interrupted us to
       assure her gift exchange was under control.  That is how I
       learned of the idea.
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       Re: Baby Shower Planning
       By: Gellchom Date: August 8, 2025, 12:15 pm
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       Whoops!  I need to read more carefully.
       I usually enjoy most of the activities and games.  I'd suggest
       not to have too too many; I have been to one or two showers
       where there were so many things we had to make and do and guess
       and write out that it got a little exhausting!  I did once win a
       nice coffee mug, though.
       [quote author=Rho link=topic=2638.msg82047#msg82047
       date=1754625116]
       Maybe because I worked retail for years returning the gifts only
       to re purchase struck me as unethical. Lots of extra work for
       the employees processing the returns.
       [/quote]
       I see.  I think I once heard before that it's bad to return
       things to stores because it's extra work for the employees.  But
       I don't understand.  I assume they are paid by the hour.  So how
       is it "extra" work, let alone "unethical"?  Unless they are
       passing up commissions other clerks get while they process
       returns, what difference does it make whether they are
       processing a return, processing a sale, helping a shopper,
       tidying the dressing rooms or the displays, or any other task?
       With all due respect to lowspark (all hail Lowspark!), I'd omit
       Suzy and Tommy are registered at BabyStore.
       Please consider shipping your gift directly to their home in
       faraway-city.
       1234 Main
       FarawayCity
       It's not a shower.  So "your gift" feels to me kind of like a
       demand for a gift, or anyway a clear expectation of one.  I
       mean, if you're going to do that, call it a shower.
       I know I am such a stickler on this, but consider that such a
       paragraph is not even necessary, because:
       1) The guests are all going to get gifts for this baby at some
       point anyway, no matter what you call the party (I bet many
       won't even notice what it's called, and most will just think of
       it as "DD#1's shower" anyway no matter what you call it), so no
       need to risk appearing to even a few to push them to do so or to
       be overly anxious that someone might not get a gift if not
       prompted.
       2) And they all know that DD#1 lives out of town, and none of
       them was born yesterday.  So they all know that she will have to
       get them home somehow and that they can order something to be
       shipped.  "Please consider shipping" seems like it's just a
       suggestion, but I think it is going to come across as just like
       prettied-up wording for "You do the shipping," which several
       people said would strike them wrong.  They will think of that on
       their own if that's what they want to do.  If they don't, she
       can pack or ship them herself; there may not be too many or too
       large to pack in their bags.  So all it will mean is that a few
       people will ask her or you for her address.  Those who order
       from stores where they are registered won't even need to do
       that.
       Ordinarily I'd omit registry info, too, but that ship seems to
       have sailed for showers.  I think you can get away with it,
       especially if it's just discreetly in there somewhere.
       #Post#: 82049--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Baby Shower Planning
       By: lowspark Date: August 8, 2025, 1:05 pm
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       Of course you are right, gellchom. At least for norms as they
       have existed for most of my life.
       But I've come to recognize that times have changed. What used to
       be considered as rude or gauche in many cases has not only
       become accepted but quite often expected.
       [quote author=gellchom link=topic=2638.msg82048#msg82048
       date=1754673306]
       1) The guests are all going to get gifts for this baby at some
       point anyway, no matter what you call the party (I bet many
       won't even notice what it's called, and most will just think of
       it as "DD#1's shower" anyway no matter what you call it),
       [/quote]
       Exactly! It's a shower no matter what you call it. And the
       invitees are going to know that. And they are going to buy
       gifts.
       Twenty years ago, I would totally agree with you to be super
       careful about wording and coming across as expecting gifts, etc.
       But the more time goes on, the less anyone, at least of the
       generations younger than I, cares about that kind of stuff.
       I've gotten lots of invitations now, as I'm sure you have, that
       have broken etiquette rules that were firmly in place for most
       of my life. Many of those rules just don't matter anymore.
       All this probably isn't making things easier for jpcher, but I'd
       advise her to get with DD#1 and hash it out. DD#1 knows what
       will sit well (or not) with her contemporaries, and it sounds
       like that will be who will make up the majority of the guest
       list.
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       Re: Baby Shower Planning
       By: jpcher Date: August 8, 2025, 6:59 pm
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       [quote author=lowspark link=topic=2638.msg82049#msg82049
       date=1754676341]
       Of course you are right, gellchom. At least for norms as they
       have existed for most of my life.
       But I've come to recognize that times have changed. What used to
       be considered as rude or gauche in many cases has not only
       become accepted but quite often expected.
       [/quote]
       lowspark -- your entire post was very elegantly stated. I
       especially agree with the above.
       I've attended many parties that my DDs (and friends of theirs)
       have hosted and when people leave, they don't walk guests to the
       door to say goodbye! In my day and age that was something that
       polite people did . . . walk with your guests to the door to say
       a final "thank you for coming" and goodbye. I guess that's not
       the norm anymore.
       I will talk to my DDs about this and look more in-depth about
       gift wording and what is acceptable today with 30somethings.
       Thanks!
       [quote author=gellchom link=topic=2638.msg82048#msg82048
       date=1754673306]
       I usually enjoy most of the activities and games.  I'd suggest
       not to have too too many; I have been to one or two showers
       where there were so many things we had to make and do and guess
       and write out that it got a little exhausting!  I did once win a
       nice coffee mug, though.
       [/quote]
       gellchom -- YES! Thank you for reinforcing my thoughts. I know
       DD#1 said "Lots of games" but I think we need to be a bit picky
       about which games and space them out over time so that the game
       play is not overwhelming.
       I appreciate everybody's input! Thanks! ;D
       #Post#: 82084--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Baby Shower Planning
       By: jpcher Date: August 19, 2025, 3:30 pm
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       New thought that I'd like your perspective on . . .
       Talking to DD#2 about the invitations, she said we should say
       something like "In lieu of cards, please bring your favorite
       childhood book. Write a comment on the book and sign your name."
       I told her that it sounded a bit gift-grabby.
       She said "No, Mom. It Is A Thing. Lots of people are doing it
       these days." I guess, as the child grows, the books can be read
       to them and parents would say "This is from Friend who thought
       about you even before you were born." or some such thing.
       I've been invited to bbshowers where, on the invitation, it said
       "bring a pack of diapers to be entered into a raffle." type of
       thing.
       I don't know, maybe I'm just not up on the current etiquette.
       Too old and set in my ways.
       What do you think about adding the "bring a book" thing on the
       invitations?
       #Post#: 82085--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Baby Shower Planning
       By: lowspark Date: August 19, 2025, 3:49 pm
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       I have seen it before. Like I said, LOTS of things that are the
       norm today are things that would have been frowned upon "back in
       my day". :)
       Again - this is a shower. A party which, by definition, is
       asking for gifts.
       I think you might word it a little bit softer though.
       The parents-to-be would like to surround their child with books.
       Instead of a card, they request that you write your message and
       signature in a copy your favorite childhood book.
       #Post#: 82087--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Baby Shower Planning
       By: Aleko Date: August 20, 2025, 1:26 am
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       When my brother and SIL held a party to introduce their
       firstborn to their friends, although showers have never been a
       thing in Britain just about everybody turned up with a soft toy;
       they had to get a plastic dustbin to put them all in. No child,
       let alone a month-old baby, can love an entire dustbinful of
       toys; they won’t even have names for most of them. (I think
       eventually DH and SIL, having identified the ones he seemed to
       have any attachment to, at intervals excavated a batch of the
       ones that were still sitting untouched at the bottom of the bin
       and took them to a charity shop.)
       So I think asking for books with the giver’s name and message is
       a great idea. That’s something everybody can enjoy giving, it’s
       personal in a way diapers or toys just aren’t, and a bookcase
       full of books each of which has been loved by somebody or has
       inspired them, is a treasure chest.
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