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       Doing all the work on Holidays UPDATE
       By: chigger Date: March 3, 2024, 2:22 pm
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       I'm nearing 60, and I'm tired. Thanksgiving is my busiest week
       at work, but I host. I cook for days, and it really sucks.
       Christmas, I host twice as many people, but I have the day off
       and it still sort of sucks. My question is: when did older
       people here stop hosting? Or when did you start asking people to
       contibute to the function? I'm thinking about this already
       because it's so hard for me. I just want to stop doing it with
       part of the family, because they are not social, don't bring any
       gifts, etc. I just feel sort of used, IYKWIM
       #Post#: 81005--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Doing all the work on Holidays
       By: sandisadie Date: March 3, 2024, 3:05 pm
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       If this was me, I'd sent out a blanket message to everyone that
       I usually host on these holidays telling them that you have
       decided to step down from hosting.  It's time for some of the
       younger members to do the hosting starting with this year's
       celebrations.   I can imagine that you will be asked to explain.
       So you could just confess that you have gotten old and tired
       and want to be a guest from now on.  Just kidding!  I'm sure you
       can come up with some answers, because you know your guests.
       Everything has to have an ending sometime.   Hosting should be
       fun, not a burden.
       #Post#: 81006--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Doing all the work on Holidays
       By: Rose Red Date: March 3, 2024, 7:16 pm
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       Do you still want the parties at your house or you don't care if
       it's at someone else's? If you don't care, perhaps send out a
       mass email with something like: "It is time for me to pass the
       baton for holiday parties. It has been wonderful all these
       years, but I will no longer be hosting. Please let me know if
       anyone will host this year and I will bring a side dish. Love,
       Chigger."
       If you're 60, you must have been hosting for decades. You
       deserve to retire from this job and just sit back and relax and
       let someone else pay and prep. If nobody steps up, enjoy the
       peace and quiet. If you want, have a smaller gathering with no
       apologies. Ask everyone to chip in for a pot luck or a catered
       meal.
       #Post#: 81007--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Doing all the work on Holidays
       By: Rho Date: March 3, 2024, 9:19 pm
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       Are your guests the type to be open to you e-mailing everyone
       and explaining that it is beyond you to host anymore.  You will
       open your house, set the table, let someone in to cook their
       provided main dish in your oven, and who will be bring it?  Who
       will be bringing what side dish?  Who will be bringing
       beverages? etc etc.
       -I had friends who hosted New Years Eve party for years and
       years.  The parties were getting stale and boring.  Then friends
       sent out the word that they were getting ready to retire and NYE
       parties would not be happening anymore.  No one stepped up.
       
       #Post#: 81008--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Doing all the work on Holidays
       By: Aleko Date: March 4, 2024, 2:17 am
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       [quote]I had friends who hosted New Years Eve party for years
       and years.  The parties were getting stale and boring.  Then
       friends sent out the word that they were getting ready to retire
       and NYE parties would not be happening anymore.  No one stepped
       up. [/quote]
       This plays in to what I was about to say: it’s quite possible
       that some at least of these people (perhaps the same ones that
       Chigger doesn’t want to keep hosting because they aren’t social
       and don’t bring presents?) don’t particularly want to spend
       Thanksgiving at her house at all, but don’t like to refuse
       because it’s Her Thing and they don’t want to hurt her feelings
       and seem to be rejecting the family tradition.  Others might
       want to help out but fear offending her by suggesting she needs
       help with the catering! Still others might be keen to step up
       and host it themselves.
       Even cherished traditions can get stale and inconvenient.
       Chigger, I think there’s everything to be said for you
       announcing in a perfectly neutral way - i.e. no suggestion that
       ‘I’m fed up of working my fingers to the bone for all you idle
       and ungrateful lot’ - that you’re no longer going to do the Big
       Family Bash as before. Then sit back and see how the cookie
       crumbles. You might well find that the relatives you don’t like
       are actually happy to be off the hook and ‘allowed’ to take
       themselves off to their in-laws for these holidays or just
       celebrate them at home. Another household may volunteer to
       invite everyone; or maybe everyone who really enjoys your
       holiday get-togethers will offer to bring dishes and do work if
       only you’ll keep inviting.
       #Post#: 81009--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Doing all the work on Holidays
       By: oogyda Date: March 4, 2024, 6:28 am
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       It's difficult to change the way things are "always done".
       Often it's because we don't want to disappoint people and it
       tends to have a ripple effect.
       Our holidays have had marked changes every few years as families
       grow and move, children start school, older people become less
       mobile, etc.  Things change.
       I have one family member who I think would love to take over
       hosting any holiday so I would first discuss it with them and
       just make the switch without explanation.  Failing that, I would
       inform a select few and just see what ends up happening.
       #Post#: 81011--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Doing all the work on Holidays
       By: lowspark Date: March 4, 2024, 8:59 am
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       First step is to decide if you want to quit hosting altogether,
       or if you want to keep hosting but without doing all the work
       yourself.
       If you decide you don't want to host at all, you communicate
       with the group the same way you normally have in the past for
       the holiday updates.
       Let them know you are no longer able to host and you hope
       someone else will take up the mantle.
       If you decide you want to continue to host, you absolutely have
       the right to invite (or not invite) whomever you please.
       For those whom you no longer wish to include, just let them know
       that you will no longer be hosting "the family TG" or words to
       that affect, then tell the folks that you do want to include
       that you are just hosting a smaller gathering from now on, tell
       them who IS included so that they know not to chat about it with
       the uninvited. Then let them know what you will provide and what
       you expect the guests to provide.
       Holidays should be fun for everyone. My mother quit hosting
       after my father died. She just said it wasn't the same anymore
       and she was done. My sister and I naturally took over, and
       settled into each our own routines about which holidays to host
       and how.
       No one is obligated to host forever. Just because "you always
       have" doesn't mean "you always have to".
       #Post#: 81012--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Doing all the work on Holidays
       By: chigger Date: March 4, 2024, 12:48 pm
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       [quote author=Aleko link=topic=2589.msg81008#msg81008
       date=1709540264]
       [quote]I had friends who hosted New Years Eve party for years
       and years.  The parties were getting stale and boring.  Then
       friends sent out the word that they were getting ready to retire
       and NYE parties would not be happening anymore.  No one stepped
       up. [/quote]
       This plays in to what I was about to say: it’s quite possible
       that some at least of these people (perhaps the same ones that
       Chigger doesn’t want to keep hosting because they aren’t social
       and don’t bring presents?) don’t particularly want to spend
       Thanksgiving at her house at all, but don’t like to refuse
       because it’s Her Thing and they don’t want to hurt her feelings
       and seem to be rejecting the family tradition.  Others might
       want to help out but fear offending her by suggesting she needs
       help with the catering! Still others might be keen to step up
       and host it themselves.
       Even cherished traditions can get stale and inconvenient.
       Chigger, I think there’s everything to be said for you
       announcing in a perfectly neutral way - i.e. no suggestion that
       ‘I’m fed up of working my fingers to the bone for all you idle
       and ungrateful lot’ - that you’re no longer going to do the Big
       Family Bash as before. Then sit back and see how the cookie
       crumbles. You might well find that the relatives you don’t like
       are actually happy to be off the hook and ‘allowed’ to take
       themselves off to their in-laws for these holidays or just
       celebrate them at home. Another household may volunteer to
       invite everyone; or maybe everyone who really enjoys your
       holiday get-togethers will offer to bring dishes and do work if
       only you’ll keep inviting.
       [/quote]
       Good advice! The weird thing is I've thought the not so social
       trio would be glad to be let off the hook. I gave a perfect out
       on Christmas, I told them a household member was sick and
       "coughing a lung up" and if they chose not to come, I would
       understand and I would drop off their gifts and some food the
       next day. They came anyway (empty handed). Very strange. I don't
       invite them for Thanksgiving.
       #Post#: 81013--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Doing all the work on Holidays
       By: jpcher Date: March 4, 2024, 4:46 pm
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       [quote author=chigger link=topic=2589.msg81004#msg81004
       date=1709497361]
       I'm nearing 60, and I'm tired. Thanksgiving is my busiest week
       at work, but I host. I cook for days, and it really sucks.
       Christmas, I host twice as many people, but I have the day off
       and it still sort of sucks. My question is: when did older
       people here stop hosting? Or when did you start asking people to
       contibute to the function? I'm thinking about this already
       because it's so hard for me. I just want to stop doing it with
       part of the family, because they are not social, don't bring any
       gifts, etc. I just feel sort of used, IYKWIM
       [/quote]
       I feel your pain. My home used to be party central. We hosted so
       many get-togethers throughout the year, not only holidays but
       other annual gatherings. I used to love hosting these parties.
       But as I grew older, and work responsibilities multiplied, I
       simply grew tired of being the hostess with the mostess.
       What did I do? I simply stopped extending invitations about five
       years ago.
       I received email questions "Are you doing your annual
       horseradish party this year?"  I replied "Sadly, no party this
       year, but if you would like to pick up a small jar of
       horseradish let me know. I'd love to see you! Let me know when
       you and I can get together." One person emailed me back, came
       out to spend a very nice afternoon together with me, and I had
       some apps prepared. Nobody else responded, so I wondered how
       interested all of my past guests were.
       The day-after-Thanksgiving feast has been a tradition for years.
       The in-law family always celebrates Tgiving for two days. Sigh.
       I was told (and it was) my turn to host the-day-after and I
       simply said "Sorry, it's not going to happen. I'm going up to my
       mothers farm for the Tgiving weekend. I won't even be there for
       Tgiving dinner this year."
       I didn't receive much flak-back, maybe an "Oh! We're going to
       miss you!" but I still get invites.
       All this to say, If you really don't want to host any more, then
       don't send out invites.
       Those that take up the gauntlet and invite you to their parties?
       Are true friends.
       #Post#: 81014--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Doing all the work on Holidays
       By: chigger Date: March 4, 2024, 5:12 pm
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       Thank you, everyone for your advice and replies, I do appreciate
       your feedback. I'm going to tell the one family that I'm not
       doing Christmas this year, and if they get their pants in a wad,
       so be it. It's a long time coming. I honestly don't know why
       they come, because they don't really seem to enjoy the
       gathering. They seldom reciprocate with gifts or even thank the
       givers of what they recieved. My one child told me this past
       Christmas that he would absolutely not be giving anything to
       them because they never even give a verbal thank you.
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