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       #Post#: 80817--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nesting Parties
       By: lowspark Date: January 8, 2024, 2:06 pm
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       [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=2579.msg80815#msg80815
       date=1704740218]
       [quote author=DaDancingPsych link=topic=2579.msg80790#msg80790
       date=1704455070]
       [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=2579.msg80776#msg80776
       date=1704394241]
       I'd much rather spend time visiting as we work on a project than
       playing games. But I'm also the type that prefers a gift of
       service or time over a gift of things.
       [/quote]
       I'm actually rather torn by the idea. If the task is something
       that I excel at, I would rather provide that as my gift. I'm
       terrible at gift purchasing, especially because I'm not a
       parent.
       However, I'm the outlier, as I rather enjoy most of the baby
       shower games. Maybe if they found a way to include these with
       the work then I would be all in.
       I'm rather disappointed that I declined... I now can't attend
       and report back!
       [/quote]
       change your RSVP! Just for us!
       [/quote]
       ;D Seconded.
       #Post#: 80819--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nesting Parties
       By: shadowfox79 Date: January 9, 2024, 1:51 am
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       [quote author=LadyJaneinMD link=topic=2579.msg80809#msg80809
       date=1704723574]
       [quote author=shadowfox79 link=topic=2579.msg80803#msg80803
       date=1704528183]
       I suppose it was technically a party, in that MIL brought drinks
       out for all the women and we stood there enjoying watching the
       men wrestle with the huge dresser.  ;D
       But yes, I think I'd decline a nesting party. Doesn't sound like
       my idea of a good time.
       [/quote]
       That sounds like a fun 'party'.  Reminds me of when my father
       bought the cast iron wood furnace (early 80s, I think).  All of
       our brothers were gone, except the youngest who was just a
       child, so it was me and my sister helping him wrestle it into
       the cellar.   He had a good frame with block-and-tackle set up,
       but it also helped that me and my sister were very strong young
       women, not dainty by any stretch of imagination.  Our mother
       commented on that from porch(favorably), and for years our
       little brother would say, 'That's my sister. Strong like ox'.
       ROFL
       [/quote]
       Thinking about it now, my MIL called it a "party" when she and
       the rest of my ILs helped DH and I move into our first home, and
       that was one long day of putting beds together and moving
       fridges into place.
       Of course, we fully intended to get pizza for everyone
       afterwards, and the only reason we didn't was that MIL called me
       and asked me to grab fish and chips instead. The only reasonable
       response to that is "What does everyone want?", so twenty
       minutes later we were all in a circle eating fish and chips
       while our grumpy cat was running back and forth going "OMGFISH!"
       #Post#: 80820--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nesting Parties
       By: NewHomeowner Date: January 9, 2024, 5:07 am
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       [quote author=shadowfox79 link=topic=2579.msg80819#msg80819
       date=1704786677]
       [quote author=LadyJaneinMD link=topic=2579.msg80809#msg80809
       date=1704723574]
       [quote author=shadowfox79 link=topic=2579.msg80803#msg80803
       date=1704528183]
       I suppose it was technically a party, in that MIL brought drinks
       out for all the women and we stood there enjoying watching the
       men wrestle with the huge dresser.  ;D
       But yes, I think I'd decline a nesting party. Doesn't sound like
       my idea of a good time.
       [/quote]
       That sounds like a fun 'party'.  Reminds me of when my father
       bought the cast iron wood furnace (early 80s, I think).  All of
       our brothers were gone, except the youngest who was just a
       child, so it was me and my sister helping him wrestle it into
       the cellar.   He had a good frame with block-and-tackle set up,
       but it also helped that me and my sister were very strong young
       women, not dainty by any stretch of imagination.  Our mother
       commented on that from porch(favorably), and for years our
       little brother would say, 'That's my sister. Strong like ox'.
       ROFL
       [/quote]
       Thinking about it now, my MIL called it a "party" when she and
       the rest of my ILs helped DH and I move into our first home, and
       that was one long day of putting beds together and moving
       fridges into place.
       Of course, we fully intended to get pizza for everyone
       afterwards, and the only reason we didn't was that MIL called me
       and asked me to grab fish and chips instead. The only reasonable
       response to that is "What does everyone want?", so twenty
       minutes later we were all in a circle eating fish and chips
       while our grumpy cat was running back and forth going "OMGFISH!"
       [/quote]
       I think the whole point is that anything done with friends is
       fun, even work stuff.  I'd always call that a party.
       BUT...as other posters mentioned, you don't invite 20 people to
       a party like that - it's more for the few people who would call
       on you for help as well.  Not random people.  Back in my 'poor'
       days, I often had moving parties. They always ended in food and
       drink, sitting in a room full of boxes.
       #Post#: 80828--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nesting Parties
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: January 10, 2024, 11:38 am
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       [quote author=lowspark link=topic=2579.msg80817#msg80817
       date=1704744392]
       [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=2579.msg80815#msg80815
       date=1704740218]
       [quote author=DaDancingPsych link=topic=2579.msg80790#msg80790
       date=1704455070]
       [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=2579.msg80776#msg80776
       date=1704394241]
       I'd much rather spend time visiting as we work on a project than
       playing games. But I'm also the type that prefers a gift of
       service or time over a gift of things.
       [/quote]
       I'm actually rather torn by the idea. If the task is something
       that I excel at, I would rather provide that as my gift. I'm
       terrible at gift purchasing, especially because I'm not a
       parent.
       However, I'm the outlier, as I rather enjoy most of the baby
       shower games. Maybe if they found a way to include these with
       the work then I would be all in.
       I'm rather disappointed that I declined... I now can't attend
       and report back!
       [/quote]
       change your RSVP! Just for us!
       [/quote]
       ;D Seconded.
       [/quote]
       Sadly? Luckily? The party has passed. I guess I should track
       down that guest list and see who can fill us in!   ;D
       The word party would not bother me in certain situations, like
       when I know that they are using it in a funny way. "Can you stop
       by on Saturday to help me organize a few things? We'll make it a
       party!!! HAHA  <wink wink>" But I agree that in this situation
       where there is an invitation that went out that the tone isn't
       that the parents are being funny. They are simply failing to
       acknowledge that what they are requesting is really a favor. In
       this case, I don't think that they are being malicious. I think
       that they are not simply thinking through what their actions are
       really saying.
       #Post#: 80845--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nesting Parties
       By: ABL Date: January 13, 2024, 12:23 am
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       No... Just No. This wasn't a "Curated List" of their closest
       family & friends.  They definitely confused Shower Invites vs
       Nesting Invites.
       If it's a "Party", I would rather have drinks & cake/dessert to
       'get together & chat'.  There doesn't need to be games, just a
       group visit with some background music.
       Instead of gifts, if they want "Acts of Service"?
       Advance Meal Prep:  Request that everyone coming to the party
       bring 3-7 days worth of family size freezer meals (with a recipe
       & instructions, to reheat as needed), preferably in recyclable
       containers (so they don't have to worry about returning them).
       I can make multiple meals, over a few different days, easily at
       my own home with all of the correct equipment (including all the
       items that make prep go quickly) & ingredients vs. trying to
       "make do" in someone else's 'Non Cooking/Understocked' Kitchen.
       IMO, most people don't have the extra
       space/equipment/dishes/cookware/bakeware for multiple people to
       cook/prep multiple meals at the same time.
       Cleaning & Organizing:  Request a financial
       contribution/donation towards the cost of hiring a House Cleaner
       &/or a Professional Organizer.
       Professionals can come in & do a deep clean of the whole house,
       along with any laundry & whatever organization needs to be done.
       It will take them considerably less time & it's all completely
       done in a few hours or days.
       IMO, this isn't something you should be asking anyone but paid
       professionals OR people you have a very close personal
       relationship with, because you don't ask acquaintances to do
       your chores (Seriously, &#129324;?! I don't want to do my own
       chores & it's my stuff.).
       On the other hand, I would happily give $ towards paying a
       professional (a full house deep clean ~$400-$500) & would gift
       $50-$100 (depending on my relationship to the person), because I
       think gifting someone money toward paying someone else to do
       their chores for them is nice & acceptable (I know, this is
       slightly weird logic).
       DIY • Decorating:  If they want the room painted or wallpapered,
       hire a contractor or ask specific friend(s)/family member(s) who
       are experienced/good/enjoy this type of DIY project.
       if you want your wallpaper to look really nice, then you make
       sure whoever is doing it has a decent amount of experience
       hanging wallpaper.  Even cheap wallpaper is expensive & it's not
       a first time/figure it out DIY when it's someone else's home.
       This can easily become a multi day project, depending on the
       room size & type used.
       if you have to paint trim, walls, & ceiling it's going to take
       more than 1 day & IMO it's not something that should be done
       with a houseful of people anyway... it smells, plus no real
       visiting, just people repeatedly distracting you so it takes
       longer.  Plus, inexperienced painters can cause more work (paint
       on/in places it's not supposed to be, uneven coverage, drips,
       etc.).  I can prep & paint a bedroom in less than 2 days (allow
       for dry time if doing walls, ceiling, trim, doors, & windows),
       but I'm experienced, pretty quick, & own all of the correct
       tools/equipment.  BUT... There are very few people in my life
       that I would offer to paint for... EVER.  This would NOT qualify
       (per your description of the relationship).
       DIY:  If they need a crib or other furniture/baby related items
       assembled, they should specifically ask their 'Handy Friend',
       who can come with all the correct tools/equipment, when no one
       else is around (to distract, interrupt, cause problems trying to
       'help', &/or in general, get in the way).  Same with hanging
       curtains, pictures, or other decor.
       Baby Safety:  Car seats should be installed by the Police or
       Fire Department/Community Health Department (whoever does it in
       that area), to make sure it's installed correctly.  They can
       also make sure that they understand the specifics on how to
       adjust the straps, etc. when necessary.
       #Post#: 80846--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nesting Parties
       By: Aleko Date: January 13, 2024, 3:30 am
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       ABL has made an excellent point that we’ve all been missing up
       to now: inviting a random bunch of people, many of whom will
       know each other only slightly or not at all, to one’s home for
       an event that’s supposed to mix socialising with doing chores,
       is clearly a recipe for disaster. If many people accept, they
       will all be climbing over each other. Anyone who does a chore
       will do it in their own way, which will not necessarily be the
       hosts’ preferred way - and be quite reasonably peeved if the
       hosts complain or correct them: ‘if you’re so fussy you should
       have either paid someone or done it yourself!’. People assigned
       a task they don’t like will either ignore it and muscle in on
       the job they prefer and interfere with it, or just sulk. Others
       will simply settle down to socialise while others work around
       them. I really don’t think much work will get done, and there’s
       an excellent chance that afterwards the hosts will have to undo
       at least some of what did get done.
       #Post#: 80847--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nesting Parties
       By: shadowfox79 Date: January 13, 2024, 3:44 am
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       [quote author=Aleko link=topic=2579.msg80846#msg80846
       date=1705138244]
       ABL has made an excellent point that we’ve all been missing up
       to now: inviting a random bunch of people, many of whom will
       know each other only slightly or not at all, to one’s home for
       an event that’s supposed to mix socialising with doing chores,
       is clearly a recipe for disaster. If many people accept, they
       will all be climbing over each other. Anyone who does a chore
       will do it in their own way, which will not necessarily be the
       hosts’ preferred way - and be quite reasonably peeved if the
       hosts complain or correct them: ‘if you’re so fussy you should
       have either paid someone or done it yourself!’. People assigned
       a task they don’t like will either ignore it and muscle in on
       the job they prefer and interfere with it, or just sulk. Others
       will simply settle down to socialise while others work around
       them. I really don’t think much work will get done, and there’s
       an excellent chance that afterwards the hosts will have to undo
       at least some of what did get done.
       [/quote]
       I agree, that's a very good point. In the two incidences I
       mentioned above, both "parties" were family-only, so it was
       easier to manage - my MIL immediately took charge and gave
       people tasks, and everyone fell into line. Inviting a mixed
       group of friends is much more likely to be a catastrophe.
       #Post#: 80890--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nesting Parties
       By: Gellchom Date: January 26, 2024, 2:28 pm
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       Rural communities used to have barn-raisings, right?  And
       quilting bees, etc.  Those were hard work.
       I guess it depends if it's a community custom, so everyone takes
       there turns helping and being helped, with jobs that are hard to
       do all by yourself.
       So I think I'd feel better about this in a context like that, or
       otherwise just a very small group of close friends and family
       doing one or two relatively pleasant projects, like maybe
       painting one room or assembling nursery furniture and toys.
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