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       #Post#: 79699--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is This a Typical 7-1/2 Year Old?
       By: Lkdrymom Date: July 20, 2023, 9:46 am
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       I used to people watch when my husband and I went out to dinner.
       We hated going places where the parents let their kids be loud
       and obnoxious. I found that the parents that engaged the child
       during dinner had the most well behaved kids.  The ones acting
       out were basically being ignored.  I'm not saying that
       everything should be kid-centric. But allowing them to feel a
       part of things would go a long way.
       #Post#: 79704--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is This a Typical 7-1/2 Year Old?
       By: WunderWoman Date: July 20, 2023, 9:30 pm
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       I'm rather surprised that a child, who is part of the family, is
       unwelcome to participate in conversations. How else would a
       child learn to converse with their own family? Or should the
       child just go off and play on their tablet, and not engage with
       family members? That seems rude, to me.
       #Post#: 79706--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is This a Typical 7-1/2 Year Old?
       By: oogyda Date: July 21, 2023, 6:51 am
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       [quote author=WunderWoman link=topic=2523.msg79704#msg79704
       date=1689906639]
       I'm rather surprised that a child, who is part of the family, is
       unwelcome to participate in conversations. How else would a
       child learn to converse with their own family? Or should the
       child just go off and play on their tablet, and not engage with
       family members? That seems rude, to me.
       [/quote]
       In this case, the child wasn't trying to participate in
       conversations, she was trying to control or dominate the
       conversations.  That is unwelcome no matter what the age of the
       participant is.
       It seems like the OP did try to teach the little girl when she
       "told her that she needed to stop talking when she asked a
       question and wait for the answer".
       #Post#: 79709--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is This a Typical 7-1/2 Year Old?
       By: Lilipons Date: July 21, 2023, 9:34 am
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       I know a kid like this.  I’ll call her X.  Since her birth, she
       had always beetold that she was an amazing intellect and that
       everything she wanted was right.  Her mantra was, “I am X and I
       can never be wrong”.
       It was kind of amusing when she was three.  It became disturbing
       when she pushed her great-grandmother out of the way to secure
       the top place at a holiday dinner.  It really became bad when
       she insisted on taking the decorations and blowing out the
       candles on birthday cakes intended for her younger cousins. If
       she didn’t get her way, she’d throw a full heel
       drumming,screaming tantrum.  ‘
       X was twelve at the time
       .  At 15 X declared she didn't need to go to school.  She knew
       everything worth knowing and could teach her teachers.
       Lately, X has deciDed that she is now Joseph and will her life
       as a man.
       I have known mant tran people over the years and have no
       problems with the idea.  However,  X has been so dramatic during
       her whole life, I really have to wonder.
       #Post#: 79719--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is This a Typical 7-1/2 Year Old?
       By: LifeOnPluto Date: July 22, 2023, 1:35 am
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       [quote author=WunderWoman link=topic=2523.msg79704#msg79704
       date=1689906639]
       I'm rather surprised that a child, who is part of the family, is
       unwelcome to participate in conversations. How else would a
       child learn to converse with their own family? Or should the
       child just go off and play on their tablet, and not engage with
       family members? That seems rude, to me.
       [/quote]
       I think there has to be some balance. The adults shouldn't spend
       the entire time talking about grown-up topics to the exclusion
       of the child. But nor do I think it's feasible/healthy for all
       of the conversations to be catered towards the child's
       involvement and interests. Ideally, there should be some
       instances where the adults talk about grown-up stuff (and the
       child can ask polite questions if she wants to learn more), and
       other instances where the adults make the pro-active effort to
       involve the child in the conversation and/or talk about things
       that are of interest to the child.
       It sounds like the problem here is that the child wasn't asking
       polite questions, but rather, demanding that the conversation be
       changed to suit her interests, which I don't think is good.
       #Post#: 79720--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is This a Typical 7-1/2 Year Old?
       By: Rose Red Date: July 22, 2023, 8:14 am
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       I'm trying to remember what I was like at that age. I had my
       moments, but had siblings and cousins the same age and we went
       wild and left the adults alone. I wasn't the only child a family
       functions and had to seek out attention from the adults. I
       wonder if this kid is lonely? Many children who are home
       schooled still have activities with other children and learn to
       socialize.
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