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#Post#: 78333--------------------------------------------------
Re: Minimum age for leaving a child unattended at a party
DIR By: oogyda
Date: January 10, 2023, 10:22 am
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> Something like "we hope parents are able to stay and enjoy the
fun. Drinks and food provided for everyone."
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To me, that reads like Toots' "You don't need to stay if you
don't want to." When dealing with others, I've learned to be
very specific. People just won't take hints if it doesn't suit
their needs.
#Post#: 78338--------------------------------------------------
Re: Minimum age for leaving a child unattended at a party
DIR By: TootsNYC
Date: January 10, 2023, 4:21 pm
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--- Quote from: oogyda link ---
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> [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=2450.msg78332#msg78332
date=1673365273]
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> Something like "we hope parents are able to stay and enjoy the
fun. Drinks and food provided for everyone."
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To me, that reads like Toots' "You don't need to stay if you
don't want to." When dealing with others, I've learned to be
very specific. People just won't take hints if it doesn't suit
their needs.
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I agree. I think you need to specifically say, "Please stay," if
you want them to stay.
I discovered that I simply cannot assume that all parents think
the way I do. Fortunately you got this demonstration of
differing standards in a relatively low-risk way.
#Post#: 78346--------------------------------------------------
Re: Minimum age for leaving a child unattended at a party
DIR By: Hmmm
Date: January 11, 2023, 8:44 am
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--- Quote from: oogyda link ---
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> [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=2450.msg78332#msg78332
date=1673365273]
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> Something like "we hope parents are able to stay and enjoy the
fun. Drinks and food provided for everyone."
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--- End Quote ---
To me, that reads like Toots' "You don't need to stay if you
don't want to." When dealing with others, I've learned to be
very specific. People just won't take hints if it doesn't suit
their needs.
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As I indicated later in my post, I know there were some parents
who have reasons that they can't stay and I wouldn't want them
to feel there child couldn't attend and just saying "please
stay" to me implies that the parent is required to remain at the
party. However, saying that parents are encouraged to stay
assured me that there was always sufficient supervision of the
kids.
#Post#: 78375--------------------------------------------------
Re: Minimum age for leaving a child unattended at a party
DIR By: QueenFaninCA
Date: January 13, 2023, 5:49 pm
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--- Quote from: Hmmm link ---
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> [quote author=oogyda link=topic=2450.msg78333#msg78333
date=1673367776]
> [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=2450.msg78332#msg78332
date=1673365273]
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> Something like "we hope parents are able to stay and enjoy the
fun. Drinks and food provided for everyone."
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--- End Quote ---
To me, that reads like Toots' "You don't need to stay if you
don't want to." When dealing with others, I've learned to be
very specific. People just won't take hints if it doesn't suit
their needs.
[/quote]
As I indicated later in my post, I know there were some parents
who have reasons that they can't stay and I wouldn't want them
to feel there child couldn't attend and just saying "please
stay" to me implies that the parent is required to remain at the
party. However, saying that parents are encouraged to stay
assured me that there was always sufficient supervision of the
kids.
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To me "we hope parents are able to stay and enjoy the fun" reads
more like "stay if you want, leave if you don't want to stay".
For many parents, a couple of child-free hours are a lot more
fun than a child's birthday party. I think that if you want the
parents who can stay to stay, you need a bit more explicit.
#Post#: 78377--------------------------------------------------
Re: Minimum age for leaving a child unattended at a party
DIR By: LifeOnPluto
Date: January 13, 2023, 10:39 pm
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I'm not a parent, so you can take this with a grain of salt. But
growing up in the late 80s and 90s, six was around the age when
parents started dropping their kids off at parties. That
included parties at home, and parties at places like fast food
outlets and bowling alleys / skating rinks. (Granted, things
might have changed in today's society).
Indoor play areas might be slightly different though. I'm not
overly familiar with them. Do they have plenty of staff on hand
to supervise the kids? If not, then I guess it wouldn't be out
of line to expect the parents to stick around and help
supervise.
#Post#: 78383--------------------------------------------------
Re: Minimum age for leaving a child unattended at a party
DIR By: Bada
Date: January 15, 2023, 4:59 pm
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--- Quote from: LifeOnPluto link ---
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> I'm not overly familiar with them. Do they have plenty of
staff on hand to supervise the kids? If not, then I guess it
wouldn't be out of line to expect the parents to stick around
and help supervise.
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At this place the workers don't supervise or even circulate
throughout occasionally. They're only at the check in counter
and snack bar or helping deliver the food to the party rooms for
the big parties that pay extra (we didn't pay for the party
room). I have no idea if the mom in my story knew that or not,
but she definitely didn't contact me to ask.
#Post#: 78385--------------------------------------------------
Re: Minimum age for leaving a child unattended at a party
DIR By: kareng57
Date: January 15, 2023, 6:58 pm
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--- Quote from: Bada link ---
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> [quote author=LifeOnPluto link=topic=2450.msg78377#msg78377
date=1673671161]
> [Snip]
> I'm not overly familiar with them. Do they have plenty of
staff on hand to supervise the kids? If not, then I guess it
wouldn't be out of line to expect the parents to stick around
and help supervise.
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At this place the workers don't supervise or even circulate
throughout occasionally. They're only at the check in counter
and snack bar or helping deliver the food to the party rooms for
the big parties that pay extra (we didn't pay for the party
room). I have no idea if the mom in my story knew that or not,
but she definitely didn't contact me to ask.
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But that's just it. In the future, you have to be clear, not
just hint-around. If you require that parents stay, say so on
the invitation. Don't just state "parents welcome to stay" and
then get angry when they don't/can't.
#Post#: 78388--------------------------------------------------
Re: Minimum age for leaving a child unattended at a party
DIR By: Rho
Date: January 15, 2023, 10:03 pm
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But that's just it. In the future, you have to be clear, not
just hint-around. If you require that parents stay, say so on
the invitation. Don't just state "parents welcome to stay" and
then get angry when they don't/can't."
If you require parents to stay be prepared for single parents
who have other children asking if the siblings can also stay OR
decline the invitation rather than make other arrangements.
#Post#: 78389--------------------------------------------------
Re: Minimum age for leaving a child unattended at a party
DIR By: kareng57
Date: January 15, 2023, 10:29 pm
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--- Quote from: Rho link ---
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> But that's just it. In the future, you have to be clear, not
just hint-around. If you require that parents stay, say so on
the invitation. Don't just state "parents welcome to stay" and
then get angry when they don't/can't."
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> If you require parents to stay be prepared for single parents
who have other children asking if the siblings can also stay OR
decline the invitation rather than make other arrangements.
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Exactly. I had another son who was only one year younger, but
required a solid three-hour nap in the afternoon. I'd have had
to decline the invitation.
#Post#: 78390--------------------------------------------------
Re: Minimum age for leaving a child unattended at a party
DIR By: Bada
Date: January 16, 2023, 4:56 am
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> [quote author=kareng57 link=topic=2450.msg78385#msg78385
date=1673830730]
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But that's just it. In the future, you have to be clear, not
just hint-around. If you require that parents stay, say so on
the invitation. Don't just state "parents welcome to stay" and
then get angry when they don't/can't.
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Yes, i realize that in the future i have to be clear. That's
why my OP *literally asks for advice* on how to better word the
invitation so it's clearer in the future that I want parents to
stay.
Rho: We anticipated other siblings might show up and one did.
We happily paid (though some warning would have been helpful so
we didn't have to wait in line a second time after we'd bought
the other tickets).
Karen: Even if I didn't require parents to stay, kids birthday
parties are typically not 3+ hours anyhow. It's not like a
single mom could drop the older kid, get a 3 hour nap for the
little one, then pick back up the older one anyway (even if the
party was at just the right time for that to happen) . And as
I've mentioned, I have a little one who still usually takes an
afternoon nap, which is why we planned this for earlier in the
day but told parents they were welcome to stay as long as they
wanted.
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