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       #Post#: 77645--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Please store your vehicle in your own yard
       By: NFPwife Date: November 3, 2022, 11:32 am
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       [quote author=random numbers link=topic=2418.msg77644#msg77644
       date=1667489692]
       What about:
       Friend, on XXDATE, the Jeep is moving out. It's either going to
       a location of your choice within XX miles, or a scrapyard. If it
       goes to the scrapyard, we'll pass along to you any money left
       over after deducting $$XX (reasonable towing and gas fee).
       [/quote]
       I like this idea, but I'm not sure you can send it to the scrap
       yard without proper paperwork and approval of the owner.
       Like others, I'd check local laws. You might be able to have it
       towed and have him charged storage.
       After checking the laws, I'd send a last notice text, email, and
       registered letter detailing what will happen if it's not
       removed.
       My concern would be that the jeep damages the equipment used for
       cutting and bailing hay. Either way, Zack needs to understand
       there will be consequences for not removing this jeep.
       #Post#: 77646--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Please store your vehicle in your own yard
       By: random numbers Date: November 3, 2022, 11:58 am
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       [quote author=PVZFan link=topic=2418.msg77645#msg77645
       date=1667493173]
       [quote author=random numbers link=topic=2418.msg77644#msg77644
       date=1667489692]
       What about:
       Friend, on XXDATE, the Jeep is moving out. It's either going to
       a location of your choice within XX miles, or a scrapyard. If it
       goes to the scrapyard, we'll pass along to you any money left
       over after deducting $$XX (reasonable towing and gas fee).
       [/quote]
       I like this idea, but I'm not sure you can send it to the scrap
       yard without proper paperwork and approval of the owner.
       Like others, I'd check local laws. You might be able to have it
       towed and have him charged storage.
       After checking the laws, I'd send a last notice text, email, and
       registered letter detailing what will happen if it's not
       removed.
       My concern would be that the jeep damages the equipment used for
       cutting and bailing hay. Either way, Zack needs to understand
       there will be consequences for not removing this jeep.
       [/quote]
       If the Jeep isn't titled (from the original post), is there
       other paper work needed?
       #Post#: 77647--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Please store your vehicle in your own yard
       By: BeagleMommy Date: November 3, 2022, 12:02 pm
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       In most areas the Jeep would be considered abandoned and you can
       do with it what you choose.  You should check your local laws.
       Since this is Zack's property I would send him a certified
       letter stating he has until a certain date to have the Jeep
       removed or you will have it removed yourself.
       #Post#: 77650--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Please store your vehicle in your own yard
       By: jpcher Date: November 3, 2022, 1:38 pm
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       Wait -- I missed the part about the Jeep not being titled. Is
       it, in fact, truly Zack's Jeep? Does it have the expired plates
       on it? Is it registered at all? This raises a red flag for me.
       I think you should go ahead and give him a deadline (end of next
       week, no longer) and at the same time let him know that if the
       vehicle is not removed by the deadline, it will be considered
       abandoned and you will be contacting the Police.
       Then, please do get the authorities involved. Do not move the
       vehicle yourself. If it turns out to be stolen (may be
       farfetched, but who doesn't register their vehicle?) you'll be
       in a world of hurt if you try to handle it yourself.
       #Post#: 77651--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Please store your vehicle in your own yard
       By: oogyda Date: November 3, 2022, 2:01 pm
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       [quote author=jpcher link=topic=2418.msg77650#msg77650
       date=1667500733]
       Wait -- I missed the part about the Jeep not being titled. Is
       it, in fact, truly Zack's Jeep? Does it have the expired plates
       on it? Is it registered at all? This raises a red flag for me.
       I think you should go ahead and give him a deadline (end of next
       week, no longer) and at the same time let him know that if the
       vehicle is not removed by the deadline, it will be considered
       abandoned and you will be contacting the Police.
       Then, please do get the authorities involved. Do not move the
       vehicle yourself. If it turns out to be stolen (may be
       farfetched, but who doesn't register their vehicle?) you'll be
       in a world of hurt if you try to handle it yourself.
       [/quote]
       I think there may be some confusion over the difference of a
       vehicle title and a vehicle registration.  I admit to my own
       confusion and would want to be very certain of all the
       circumstances before taking action.
       #Post#: 77653--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Please store your vehicle in your own yard
       By: Rose Red Date: November 3, 2022, 2:46 pm
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       I'm confused. Why isn't there a title/proof of ownership? Where
       did it come from? Who brought it and from where/whom?
       But if it's Zack's responsibility, send him a registered letter
       and by email* him telling him he has until X date to move it or
       your DH will somehow legally get rid of it. Please note I don't
       really know about this kind of stuff.
       *for proof that Zack was contacted.
       #Post#: 77654--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Please store your vehicle in your own yard
       By: Despedina Date: November 3, 2022, 4:21 pm
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       [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=2418.msg77653#msg77653
       date=1667504816]
       I'm confused. Why isn't there a title/proof of ownership? Where
       did it come from? Who brought it and from where/whom?
       But if it's Zack's responsibility, send him a registered letter
       and by email* him telling him he has until X date to move it or
       your DH will somehow legally get rid of it. Please note I don't
       really know about this kind of stuff.
       *for proof that Zack was contacted.
       [/quote]
       So in the "offroading" world, its not unusual to end up with an
       old, not titled, usually mostly junky 4wd type of vehicle. We
       have one.  These groups fix them up, alter them for offroading
       and you trailer it to an offroad area and drive it around. Many
       times there are no tail-lights any more and DH's cousin has one
       that doesn't have any doors.  So basically they are driving
       these things for fun until they are so messed up they don't
       move. Its supposed to be fun.  Ours is currently sitting in our
       yard with only 3 tires.  I don't know where they started life,
       but these things exist in many places.  Zack's actually runs and
       is in good shape, but many don't like driving it because its a
       stick shift, which I kind of why I think he doesn't take it on
       offroading outings for the past couple of years.
       DH did try messaging Zack again yesterday, and Zack is ignoring
       him. Awesome. DH says if he doesn't respond, he'll get Zack's
       address from DH's cousin (or cousin can accept it whatever he
       wants to do). But it will be gone soon.  We cannot send a letter
       as we don't have an address for Zack at least yet.
       #Post#: 77657--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Please store your vehicle in your own yard
       By: Kimberami Date: November 4, 2022, 8:03 am
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       If this were in my county, the car would have been scavenged for
       parts long ago.
       You could always call the civil division of your local law
       enforcement and ask them what you to do about the jeep.
       #Post#: 77663--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Please store your vehicle in your own yard
       By: Despedina Date: November 4, 2022, 4:35 pm
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       Well good news, Zack finally responded yesterday and said it can
       be brought to his house and gave the address, so we are
       delivering it on Sunday.  Also he mentioned that he was never
       told it was being taken to MIL's house in the first place, and
       didn't know that's where it was until April when I mentioned it.
       I don't exactly think he's innocent of any bad behaviour since
       DH had to prod him to take his own property back, and he didn't
       ask where it was going when the shop was sold in December.
       I do however wonder why MIL & BIL kept saying that Zack didn't
       have anywhere to keep it and he'd get it when he could starting
       over a year ago.  Seems some communication was missing
       somewhere.
       I have seen MIL and BIL make up things instead of actually
       dealing with issues. I"ve heard stories from them that they are
       "working on x problem" then you find out they never were. Its
       kind of annoying and although usually it doesn't affect DH or I,
       sometimes it does, like in this case.  I can't help but wonder
       if Zack was told the jeep needed to move by the shop's closing
       date in Dec he wouldn't have dealt with it himself. I just don't
       get it. Instead DH and I were asked to move all the vehicles
       that were on the property as if there were no other choices.
       Frustrating.
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