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Re: How early is on time?
By: BeagleMommy Date: October 18, 2022, 12:56 pm
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I usually sign in to virtual meetings 2-3 minutes ahead of
schedule in case I have to adjust my camera or "unmute" myself.
My boss will usually wait 5 minutes past the start time for
anyone late signing in then she starts without them.
Your colleagues were rude.
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Re: How early is on time?
By: Jem Date: October 18, 2022, 1:03 pm
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[quote author=BeagleMommy link=topic=2411.msg77452#msg77452
date=1666115804]
I usually sign in to virtual meetings 2-3 minutes ahead of
schedule in case I have to adjust my camera or "unmute" myself.
My boss will usually wait 5 minutes past the start time for
anyone late signing in then she starts without them.
Your colleagues were rude.
[/quote]
I agree the colleagues were rude, but I think your boss is rude
to waste five minutes of everyone's time.
#Post#: 77464--------------------------------------------------
Re: How early is on time?
By: Blue Willow Date: October 18, 2022, 9:39 pm
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Thank you all for your replies. This past week I've been paying
close attention to "how soon people join the meeting" and while
I haven't seen anyone join a full 15 minutes before the
scheduled time again, I have seen ten minutes ahead all the way
down to two minutes prior.
The two minutes prior person was the last to join, and was the
subject of some joking among the other attendees ("Maybe she's
hiding in her kitchen") The host was in the process of
messaging her when she came on line. I felt a bit righteously
irritated on her behalf--she was not late! --she was two minutes
early.
I think there is definitely an attitude in this department about
early = virtue; I suppose I have been slow to cotton to the
unwritten expectation, since in my old department, it was
understood there are client calls and back-to-back meetings, as
one of you also pointed out, that might mean you may not be
early and in fact you may be late, but don't delay the meeting
on your account, you'll get there as soon as you are able.
But, it's on me to adjust to the current circumstance. My normal
mode had been, like several of you also, three minutes ahead,
figuring that would be enough time to reconnect if necessary. I
have pushed this back to five minutes early --I begrudge any
earlier but who knows, I might need to adjust my attitude and
adjust my time again.
As to how, in the first meeting, they got through most of the
agenda in 15 or less minutes, it's because the whole thing just
should have been a couple of emails, honestly, not a full
fledged meeting. Maybe a couple of the attendees also recognized
this and hence were impatient to get it over with -- in which
case, I get it; and can get over that.
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Re: How early is on time?
By: DaDancingPsych Date: October 19, 2022, 9:01 am
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[quote author=Blue Willow link=topic=2411.msg77464#msg77464
date=1666147193]
The two minutes prior person was the last to join, and was the
subject of some joking among the other attendees ("Maybe she's
hiding in her kitchen") The host was in the process of
messaging her when she came on line. I felt a bit righteously
irritated on her behalf--she was not late! --she was two minutes
early.
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I think that this can be a great push back moment. "Is my clock
wrong? I actually have that the meeting time has not come yet so
she's not late yet!"
Unless you are in a position of power, it can be quite difficult
to change a culture. So I would take this to mean that your
company anticipates people to be early, so if a meeting is set
for 10:00am, that it really starts at 9:55am (or whatever is
typically appropriate.) Actually, I would use this thought as a
push back moment, too. "I am not available for the 10:00am
meeting as I have a call that is set to end at 10:00am." If
anyone argues that the meeting times don't cross, I would
counter with "These meetings always start prior to the stated
start time. Would everyone wait until 10:00am for me?" Either
way, I do think that to a certain extent you have to accept that
this is the company's culture and whether any push back is worth
trying.
#Post#: 77472--------------------------------------------------
Re: How early is on time?
By: jpcher Date: October 19, 2022, 2:01 pm
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[quote author=Jem link=topic=2411.msg77454#msg77454
date=1666116197]
[quote author=BeagleMommy link=topic=2411.msg77452#msg77452
date=1666115804]
I usually sign in to virtual meetings 2-3 minutes ahead of
schedule in case I have to adjust my camera or "unmute" myself.
My boss will usually wait 5 minutes past the start time for
anyone late signing in then she starts without them.
Your colleagues were rude.
[/quote]
I agree the colleagues were rude, but I think your boss is rude
to waste five minutes of everyone's time.
[/quote]
I agree with the bold above, however I tend to multitask
(continue on working on whatever) until the host says "Okay,
let's begin." But often late starts lead to late endings, which
is inconsiderate of people's time as well.
A bit of a derailment here (hope you don't mind) but I think the
gist of this conversation is respecting people's time.
A Big Wig Director (BWD) that I work with often emailed me (and
a couple other people) "I think we need to jump on a quick call
here." About an important job that due that day.
I immediately responded with "Sure, I'm here."
20 minutes later she replied with "Okay, I'll call you in a few"
An hour later, getting close to my quit time (and she knows
this), I'm thinking, okay, I gotta go pee, I'm not waiting any
more. And of course, she calls while I'm in the bathroom.
I call her back and then spent over an hour on the
computer-phone with her, sharing my screen, searching for
something miniscule that she specifically wanted . . . "It's a
picture of me in a red jacket" . . . which truly did not have
any impact on the final project. Anyway (I'm ranting ;)) I
finally told her that I have a hard stop in five minutes.
Anyway, any meetings (amongst us underlings) with BWD is usually
met with an eyeroll. Oh, is it going to be on time? Or on
BWD-time? which I think is extremely rude, inconsiderate and
abusive of other people's time.
#Post#: 77473--------------------------------------------------
Re: How early is on time?
By: Bada Date: October 19, 2022, 2:55 pm
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I had two big bosses, one bigger than the other. They would
both refuse to come into the conference room until everyone was
there. Then they'd keep working on their computers for a while
until they were told *everyone* else was there (tricky with 2
people playing that game, right?) It wasn't my job to drag them
in and big big boss wouldn't tell the lesser boss he wasn't
allowed to pull that stunt... So on busy days I'd bring work to
the conference room and work there while I waited. On less busy
days (or days everything required a computer) I'd just sit and
relax and wait znd wait and wait until both bosses finally
rolled in. It was really frustrating until I learned to drop
the rope. It was super disrespectful of my time, but I figured
they were paying me either way. (Of course on really busy days
it was still really upsetting, I'm glad to not work there
anymore! )
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