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       #Post#: 76563--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No Dogs Allowed
       By: MOM21SON Date: July 29, 2022, 3:15 pm
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       [quote author=JeanFromBNA link=topic=2370.msg76560#msg76560
       date=1659123341]
       Work is still crazy busy, and we're shorthanded, so I haven't
       been able to update as quickly, but I wanted to tell you about
       this:
       Sunday evening, MIL got a phone call from her son, BIL. After
       some chatting, BIL asked to speak with DH. BIL asked DH if Dog
       could stay in a kennel in the house. DH said that was fine. Dog
       travels with them everywhere, and when they were here last
       Thanksgiving, someone had to hold the dog (a beagle) THE.
       ENTIRE. TIME. to keep him from chasing the cats and getting
       under foot too much. I suspected it was this relative, but it
       could have been a couple of others, so I really didn't know.
       SIL is a bit ditzy, or puts on a good act. Had I not "called
       them out" I believe that she would have shown up with Dog,
       acting like she "didn't knooooww we couldn't bring Dog," and
       created drama when we told her we could put Dog in the garage or
       someone would have to leave. We wouldn't have time to deal with
       it on party day. I'm glad that we dealt with it upfront and
       y'all helped me. I'll have to let you know how it goes.
       Now, another relative wants us to post a detailed menu . . .
       Am I reading wrong?  She’s bringing the dog cuz DH said it was
       fine?
       [/quote]
       #Post#: 76564--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No Dogs Allowed
       By: JeanFromBNA Date: July 29, 2022, 4:32 pm
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       [quote author=MOM21SON link=topic=2370.msg76563#msg76563
       date=1659125727]
       [quote author=JeanFromBNA link=topic=2370.msg76560#msg76560
       date=1659123341]
       Work is still crazy busy, and we're shorthanded, so I haven't
       been able to update as quickly, but I wanted to tell you about
       this:
       Sunday evening, MIL got a phone call from her son, BIL. After
       some chatting, BIL asked to speak with DH. BIL asked DH if Dog
       could stay in a kennel in the house. DH said that was fine. Dog
       travels with them everywhere, and when they were here last
       Thanksgiving, someone had to hold the dog (a beagle) THE.
       ENTIRE. TIME. to keep him from chasing the cats and getting
       under foot too much. I suspected it was this relative, but it
       could have been a couple of others, so I really didn't know.
       SIL is a bit ditzy, or puts on a good act. Had I not "called
       them out" I believe that she would have shown up with Dog,
       acting like she "didn't knooooww we couldn't bring Dog," and
       created drama when we told her we could put Dog in the garage or
       someone would have to leave. We wouldn't have time to deal with
       it on party day. I'm glad that we dealt with it upfront and
       y'all helped me. I'll have to let you know how it goes.
       Now, another relative wants us to post a detailed menu . . .
       Am I reading wrong?  She’s bringing the dog cuz DH said it was
       fine?
       [/quote]
       [/quote]
       Dog is staying in our house near the venue. I'd rather not have
       him at our house, but the venue expressly forbids it.
       #Post#: 76566--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No Dogs Allowed UPDATE
       By: Isisnin Date: July 29, 2022, 6:26 pm
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       Maybe you and your husband clarify the perimeters of the dog's
       stay before hand (if you haven't already). E.g. which room the
       dog and the kennel will stay in as (I imagine) he and the cats
       are not going to get along even separated by the kennel. Also,
       when the in-laws go back to feed, water, and walk the dog, what
       they need to do to ensure the cats don't slip into the room.
       #Post#: 76567--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No Dogs Allowed UPDATE
       By: Rose Red Date: July 29, 2022, 6:50 pm
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       How many days will they be there? I've never had a dog but
       keeping it in a kennel for more than a few hours don't seem
       pleasant. Also, it doesn't seem fair to the others if they are
       allowed to bring their dog but nobody else can. But I don't know
       your family's dynamics so maybe the others will understand?
       #Post#: 76572--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No Dogs Allowed UPDATE
       By: vintagegal Date: July 30, 2022, 5:36 am
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       Hope the dog does better than my landlord's new puppy. They went
       away for a bit, left it in its crate. It was NOT HAPPY. Barked
       and rocked the crate for 2.5 hours. I let them know when they
       got home, they said they wouldn't crate it anymore.
       #Post#: 76573--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No Dogs Allowed UPDATE
       By: Isisnin Date: July 30, 2022, 9:41 am
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       [quote author=vintagegal link=topic=2370.msg76572#msg76572
       date=1659177414]
       Hope the dog does better than my landlord's new puppy. They went
       away for a bit, left it in its crate. It was NOT HAPPY. Barked
       and rocked the crate for 2.5 hours. I let them know when they
       got home, they said they wouldn't crate it anymore.
       [/quote]
       When I was renting an apartment once, a friend of mine visited
       with a young lab who was crate trained. Friend had crate trained
       the dog properly. The trick is to have to dog trained to
       consider the crate as their private playroom/bedroom.
       When we were there, the crate was left open and the dog would
       choose to go in to it to nap, relax, or just play with the toys.
       When we left, he went in without complaint and the crate was
       closed. He spent his time alone, playing, sleeping, having a
       drink or a snack. He was happy and didn't bark or paw at the
       crate. Highly recommend it.
       In fact, I just remembered that my tenants upstairs have a crate
       in their bedroom for their dog. Works fine there too.
       The important thing is that the dog is truly trained properly.
       Since the in-laws didn't use a crate last Thanksgiving, the
       beagle probably isn't crate trained (proper training takes time,
       the two or three weeks before this get together probably won't
       be enough).
       Not to be a damper on this, JeanfromBNA. Just for you to be
       prepared in case it turns out the kennel/crate doesn't work out
       and in-laws again insist they have to bring the dog to the
       venue. If that happens, they can take turns dog sitting their
       own dog at your house???
       #Post#: 76575--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No Dogs Allowed UPDATE
       By: jpcher Date: July 30, 2022, 4:40 pm
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       Your DH agreed to 'host' the dog. It is now his problem to deal
       with.
       You have enough on your plate with handling meal planning,
       sleeping arrangements, organizing the big party and all. Take
       this dog worry off of your plate. Point anybody with any dog
       question to your DH. Including your neighbors/venue
       proprietor's. Wash your hands and be done with the situation.
       "Now, another relative wants us to post a detailed menu . . ."
       Is this the person with celiac disease that you posted about in
       the "Entertaining . . ." topic? If so, I would comply with this
       request, have a conversation with the celiac person just to make
       sure that you are serving food enough for them to eat.
       If this is a random person with no food affliction (rude, in my
       opinion), then I'd tell them "The menu isn't at detail point
       right now. If you have any problems with what I'm serving, when
       it's served, then feel free to visit any of our local
       restaurants."
       Oh.My.Goodness! Planning a three-day event, with the focus on a
       special party, shouldn't be this difficult! I mean, yes, it is a
       challenge but with all of the side problems, my heart goes out
       to you.
       Remember to have fun! All the hard work will be worth it in the
       end.
       #Post#: 76578--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No Dogs Allowed UPDATE
       By: NFPwife Date: July 30, 2022, 9:06 pm
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       [quote author=jpcher link=topic=2370.msg76575#msg76575
       date=1659217251]
       Your DH agreed to 'host' the dog. It is now his problem to deal
       with.
       You have enough on your plate with handling meal planning,
       sleeping arrangements, organizing the big party and all. Take
       this dog worry off of your plate. Point anybody with any dog
       question to your DH. Including your neighbors/venue
       proprietor's. Wash your hands and be done with the situation.
       "Now, another relative wants us to post a detailed menu . . ."
       Is this the person with celiac disease that you posted about in
       the "Entertaining . . ." topic? If so, I would comply with this
       request, have a conversation with the celiac person just to make
       sure that you are serving food enough for them to eat.
       If this is a random person with no food affliction (rude, in my
       opinion), then I'd tell them "The menu isn't at detail point
       right now. If you have any problems with what I'm serving, when
       it's served, then feel free to visit any of our local
       restaurants."
       Oh.My.Goodness! Planning a three-day event, with the focus on a
       special party, shouldn't be this difficult! I mean, yes, it is a
       challenge but with all of the side problems, my heart goes out
       to you.
       Remember to have fun! All the hard work will be worth it in the
       end.
       [/quote]
       I agree with jpcher - if the dog becomes a problem, it's your
       DH's problem to solve. I'd say, "I was afraid this was going to
       happen," and then go off to do something else.
       Ramit Sethi, an author and podcaster I like, says that when he
       plans family vacations he has everyone plan at least one thing
       during the trip (even if he covers the tab) so they "have skin
       in the game" and realize how hard these things are. He says it
       makes people more appreciative of the effort and planning of a
       group trip. I'd be tempted to "pull a Ramit" right about now.
       #Post#: 76581--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No Dogs Allowed UPDATE
       By: JeanFromBNA Date: July 31, 2022, 2:29 pm
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       [quote author=jpcher link=topic=2370.msg76575#msg76575
       date=1659217251]
       Your DH agreed to 'host' the dog. It is now his problem to deal
       with.
       [/quote]
       That's the plan. If the dog howls the whole time, they can go
       back to the house and sit with him. The cats can retreat
       somewhere the dog is not.
       #Post#: 76589--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No Dogs Allowed UPDATE
       By: Hmmm Date: August 1, 2022, 9:01 am
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       [quote author=JeanFromBNA link=topic=2370.msg76581#msg76581
       date=1659295786]
       [quote author=jpcher link=topic=2370.msg76575#msg76575
       date=1659217251]
       Your DH agreed to 'host' the dog. It is now his problem to deal
       with.
       [/quote]
       That's the plan. If the dog howls the whole time, they can go
       back to the house and sit with him. The cats can retreat
       somewhere the dog is not.
       [/quote]
       For the first 3 years of our beagle's life, he was kennel
       trained. Which meant that he would sleep in his kennel at night.
       My husband worked from home so he wasn't kenneled during the day
       but if we left the house, he was in his kennel for up to 3 hours
       at a time. He was fine. Even when we were home, he'd often go
       into it to sleep instead of going onto his dog bed. If they are
       bringing a kennel, they've probably kennel trained him.
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