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#Post#: 76407--------------------------------------------------
Re: No Dogs Allowed
By: Aleko Date: July 18, 2022, 3:06 am
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[quote]I wonder if you should send them contact info for a local
dog-boarding place. Or a different neighbor who'll agree to
watch dogs for money.[/quote]
No. Their dogs, their circus, their monkeys: they need to own
the issue and realise that it isn’t up to their host or anyone
else to run around finding solutions. If they have never looked
for a dog-loving neighbour, professional dog-minder or boarding
kennel near their own home to leave their dogs with when they go
somewhere non-dog-friendly, it’s high time they did.
#Post#: 76412--------------------------------------------------
Re: No Dogs Allowed
By: Isisnin Date: July 18, 2022, 10:20 am
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[quote author=Aleko link=topic=2370.msg76407#msg76407
date=1658131610]
[quote]I wonder if you should send them contact info for a local
dog-boarding place. Or a different neighbor who'll agree to
watch dogs for money.[/quote]
No. Their dogs, their circus, their monkeys: they need to own
the issue and realise that it isn’t up to their host or anyone
else to run around finding solutions. If they have never looked
for a dog-loving neighbor, professional dog-minder or boarding
kennel near their own home to leave their dogs with when they go
somewhere non-dog-friendly, it’s high time they did.
[/quote]
This exactly. I very briefly thought about the OP providing info
about local dog boarding, but then the dog owners would take
that as the OP not only agreeing to help, but being required to
help. "The one you recommended is booked/unsuitable. Find me
another one." "Since no kennel is working out, you have to talk
to the owners of the venue again and get them to agree to us
bringing our fluffy-wuffy." or even. "the kennel did or did not
do whatever. You recommended it. You have to pay for it." etc.
etc.
I love dogs and had my dog with me most times. But there's a
time and place for them. Once dog and I drove across country to
a family gathering. I found a hotel that took dogs (meant I
wasn't staying at the hotel with everyone else, but then that
can be an upside ;). One day was an all day excursion, so I
left the dog at a pet shop/grooming/boarding chain. Worked out
great. But making the arrangements were all on me.
#Post#: 76414--------------------------------------------------
Re: No Dogs Allowed
By: JeanFromBNA Date: July 18, 2022, 1:51 pm
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I texted the following to the main people: "Our neighbors who
own the venue let us know that someone contacted them about
bringing dogs on the property. I wanted to make sure that
everyone knows that dogs are not allowed on the property, so
please do not bring your dogs to the cabin or party." I wanted
to make the point that this isn't a typical vendor-customer
relationship. Thanks to Jem for the wording!
#Post#: 76416--------------------------------------------------
Re: No Dogs Allowed
By: jpcher Date: July 18, 2022, 4:44 pm
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[quote author=Isisnin link=topic=2370.msg76412#msg76412
date=1658157635]
[quote author=Aleko link=topic=2370.msg76407#msg76407
date=1658131610]
[quote]I wonder if you should send them contact info for a local
dog-boarding place. Or a different neighbor who'll agree to
watch dogs for money.[/quote]
No. Their dogs, their circus, their monkeys: they need to own
the issue and realise that it isn’t up to their host or anyone
else to run around finding solutions. If they have never looked
for a dog-loving neighbor, professional dog-minder or boarding
kennel near their own home to leave their dogs with when they go
somewhere non-dog-friendly, it’s high time they did.
[/quote]
This exactly. I very briefly thought about the OP providing info
about local dog boarding, but then the dog owners would take
that as the OP not only agreeing to help, but being required to
help. "The one you recommended is booked/unsuitable. Find me
another one." "Since no kennel is working out, you have to talk
to the owners of the venue again and get them to agree to us
bringing our fluffy-wuffy." or even. "the kennel did or did not
do whatever. You recommended it. You have to pay for it." etc.
etc.
[/quote]
We're making suppositions here, but for the sake of debate ;), I
thought the exact opposite of the bold above. Presenting the
rude one (RO) with a list of kennels (or at least one address or
kennel name) would show a firm stance. "Either do this, or
you're welcome to leave. Dogs are not allowed. We'll see you
back here once precious is settled."
I agree, OP shouldn't go to any trouble, just a phone number to
show that she means business. Otherwise, the RO could say "Okay,
I'll look into it. Let us get settled first. I don't know the
area., etc." and then the point-of-impact (first contact) would
have been lost.
I sincerely hope that none of these scenarios occur, that would
just put a damper on the joyous occasion. After all supposed RO
has been informed THREE times that no dogs are allowed. (Initial
invite and follow-up text sent by OP along with a conversation
with Venu owners).
If a RO shows up with dog in tow, I would consider them a Royal
PIA Queen/King of the Rude Ones (RPIAQ/KROs how's that for an
acronym? LOL!) and (I'm saying this for the first time ever on
this board) I would reconsider my relationship with them.
OP -- After three notices, do you still think that anybody would
show up with a dog?
#Post#: 76417--------------------------------------------------
Re: No Dogs Allowed
By: kareng57 Date: July 18, 2022, 5:02 pm
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[quote author=jpcher link=topic=2370.msg76416#msg76416
date=1658180659]
[quote author=Isisnin link=topic=2370.msg76412#msg76412
date=1658157635]
[quote author=Aleko link=topic=2370.msg76407#msg76407
date=1658131610]
[quote]I wonder if you should send them contact info for a local
dog-boarding place. Or a different neighbor who'll agree to
watch dogs for money.[/quote]
No. Their dogs, their circus, their monkeys: they need to own
the issue and realise that it isn’t up to their host or anyone
else to run around finding solutions. If they have never looked
for a dog-loving neighbor, professional dog-minder or boarding
kennel near their own home to leave their dogs with when they go
somewhere non-dog-friendly, it’s high time they did.
[/quote]
This exactly. I very briefly thought about the OP providing info
about local dog boarding, but then the dog owners would take
that as the OP not only agreeing to help, but being required to
help. "The one you recommended is booked/unsuitable. Find me
another one." "Since no kennel is working out, you have to talk
to the owners of the venue again and get them to agree to us
bringing our fluffy-wuffy." or even. "the kennel did or did not
do whatever. You recommended it. You have to pay for it." etc.
etc.
[/quote]
We're making suppositions here, but for the sake of debate ;), I
thought the exact opposite of the bold above. Presenting the
rude one (RO) with a list of kennels (or at least one address or
kennel name) would show a firm stance. "Either do this, or
you're welcome to leave. Dogs are not allowed. We'll see you
back here once precious is settled."
I agree, OP shouldn't go to any trouble, just a phone number to
show that she means business. Otherwise, the RO could say "Okay,
I'll look into it. Let us get settled first. I don't know the
area., etc." and then the point-of-impact (first contact) would
have been lost.
I sincerely hope that none of these scenarios occur, that would
just put a damper on the joyous occasion. After all supposed RO
has been informed THREE times that no dogs are allowed. (Initial
invite and follow-up text sent by OP along with a conversation
with Venu owners).
If a RO shows up with dog in tow, I would consider them a Royal
PIA Queen/King of the Rude Ones (RPIAQ/KROs how's that for an
acronym? LOL!) and (I'm saying this for the first time ever on
this board) I would reconsider my relationship with them.
OP -- After three notices, do you still think that anybody would
show up with a dog?
[/quote]
Quite possibly, yes. After all, their dog is "special" and
ordinary rules don't apply......
#Post#: 76419--------------------------------------------------
Re: No Dogs Allowed
By: NFPwife Date: July 18, 2022, 9:52 pm
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[quote author=jpcher link=topic=2370.msg76416#msg76416
date=1658180659]
[quote author=Isisnin link=topic=2370.msg76412#msg76412
date=1658157635]
[quote author=Aleko link=topic=2370.msg76407#msg76407
date=1658131610]
[quote]I wonder if you should send them contact info for a local
dog-boarding place. Or a different neighbor who'll agree to
watch dogs for money.[/quote]
No. Their dogs, their circus, their monkeys: they need to own
the issue and realise that it isn’t up to their host or anyone
else to run around finding solutions. If they have never looked
for a dog-loving neighbor, professional dog-minder or boarding
kennel near their own home to leave their dogs with when they go
somewhere non-dog-friendly, it’s high time they did.
[/quote]
This exactly. I very briefly thought about the OP providing info
about local dog boarding, but then the dog owners would take
that as the OP not only agreeing to help, but being required to
help. "The one you recommended is booked/unsuitable. Find me
another one." "Since no kennel is working out, you have to talk
to the owners of the venue again and get them to agree to us
bringing our fluffy-wuffy." or even. "the kennel did or did not
do whatever. You recommended it. You have to pay for it." etc.
etc.
[/quote]
We're making suppositions here, but for the sake of debate ;), I
thought the exact opposite of the bold above. Presenting the
rude one (RO) with a list of kennels (or at least one address or
kennel name) would show a firm stance. "Either do this, or
you're welcome to leave. Dogs are not allowed. We'll see you
back here once precious is settled."
I agree, OP shouldn't go to any trouble, just a phone number to
show that she means business. Otherwise, the RO could say "Okay,
I'll look into it. Let us get settled first. I don't know the
area., etc." and then the point-of-impact (first contact) would
have been lost.
I sincerely hope that none of these scenarios occur, that would
just put a damper on the joyous occasion. After all supposed RO
has been informed THREE times that no dogs are allowed. (Initial
invite and follow-up text sent by OP along with a conversation
with Venu owners).
If a RO shows up with dog in tow, I would consider them a Royal
PIA Queen/King of the Rude Ones (RPIAQ/KROs how's that for an
acronym? LOL!) and (I'm saying this for the first time ever on
this board) I would reconsider my relationship with them.
OP -- After three notices, do you still think that anybody would
show up with a dog?
[/quote]
Not the OP, but I think someone will still show up with a dog
with some sort of lame excuse. I see both sides of giving kennel
information. I thought the garage bit would have them saying,
"I'd never leave Fifi in their garage!" and be a disincentive to
bring the dog, but I see how that could be manipulated and turn
into a whole thing. After they contacted the event space, I
think planning for the worst makes sense in this scenario.
#Post#: 76422--------------------------------------------------
Re: No Dogs Allowed
By: DaDancingPsych Date: July 19, 2022, 9:43 am
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I've gone back and forth concerning providing the kennel
information. My gut says, "I have done enough to plan this
party, why should I also be expected to take care of others'
life choices." However, I can see how it might give a firmer
answer and it does provide a solution for anyone who whines that
there isn't one. What I do know is that this has the potential
of going in an unpleasant direction no matter which way one
goes.
However, I had a second thought. I might look up kennel
information and provide it to my neighbor. If one of my crazy
relatives shows up with their pet, they could easily redirect
them. Plus, being that this sounds like a somewhat common issue
for them, the two businesses might be able to build a
relationship that could be beneficial to both.
#Post#: 76423--------------------------------------------------
Re: No Dogs Allowed
By: sms Date: July 19, 2022, 9:46 am
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Hopefully it won't actually come to pass that anyone shows up
with their dogs despite the repeated warnings. I don't usually
like to engage in wild speculation about remote possibilities
but I don't know, this doesn't seem far fetched.
At least real enough that I would be planning for the what ifs.
Only the OP knows the people involved and whether this is a
stunt they think they're capable of pulling although i can
easily envision a scenario where the relative in question, even
if they don't quite dare to show up at the venue with their dogs
might show up at the OP's house, dogs in tow, all big eyes and
that guilty/defiant/defensive look on their face.
It just seems that if "those" dog owners have never actually had
to deal with the less fun aspects of having a dog and have
always been accommodated ( happily or with gritted teeth ) then
they might assume everyone will jump through hoops to fix it for
them.
So then there's what do they do if faced with it? Turn them
away? Tell them to figure it out right quick but no dogs are
setting foot in the house / garage?
I know I wouldn't want to do the work of "dealing" with the
dogs.
#Post#: 76424--------------------------------------------------
Re: No Dogs Allowed
By: OnyxBird Date: July 19, 2022, 10:57 am
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I'd say have a plan for what you're going to do if someone shows
up with dogs, so you're not having to make decisions on the
spot, but don't offer options in advance--stick to the messaging
of "Do not bring dogs. We cannot accommodate dogs."
Then if someone shows up with dogs anyway, you can fall back on
your plan. Hand them the name of a kennel that accepts same-day
boarding? Tell them the dogs can't come to the venue or stay on
your property, but you'll be happy to see them if they manage to
find a kennel to board the dogs? Tell them the dogs can stay in
the garage? (Personally I'd steer clear of that one--it seems
like partially caving on "we can't accommodate dogs" in a way
that might encourage them to try to pull this in the future.)
Tell them you explained repeatedly not to bring dogs and they'll
have to leave? Also probably have a plan for what you'll do if
they try to leave the dogs in their vehicle.
#Post#: 76425--------------------------------------------------
Re: No Dogs Allowed
By: BeagleMommy Date: July 19, 2022, 11:53 am
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BeagleDaddy and I traveled often with The Beagle when he was
still with us. However, we made sure dogs were welcome. If
they were not, The Beagle stayed home or with grandma.
Of course we had trained him not to jump, beg (hard with a dog
led by his nose), bark without need, etc. We always cleaned up
after him.
OP, if these people show up with the dog they should be directed
to the nearest day kennel.
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