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#Post#: 75987--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mask issue at church
By: Surly Date: June 21, 2022, 8:58 pm
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I think it's reasonable to expect that if the loft is set aside
for parishioners who wish to be more cautious and social
distance, it's also pretty standard to mask up there.
I'm also in Ontario and this must vary from city to city. Most
places that I go these days, people are very considerate about
masking. Better to err on the side of caution and protest
others around you.
Since she emailed and asked you politely, I think the right
thing to do is wear a mask, or enjoy an online service from
home.
#Post#: 75990--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mask issue at church
By: Jem Date: June 22, 2022, 4:15 am
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[quote author=Surly link=topic=2325.msg75987#msg75987
date=1655863098]
Since she emailed and asked you politely, I think the right
thing to do is wear a mask, or enjoy an online service from
home.
[/quote]
I’m curious why you would recommend the OP enjoy the online
service from home and not the person complaining. Perhaps I
misunderstood you. It seems to me it is the person complaining
who should take additional steps given her fear of COVID, not
the OP.
#Post#: 75993--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mask issue at church
By: LifeOnPluto Date: June 22, 2022, 7:22 am
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[quote author=Surly link=topic=2325.msg75987#msg75987
date=1655863098]
Since she emailed and asked you politely, I think the right
thing to do is wear a mask, or enjoy an online service from
home.
[/quote]
Actually, the OP indicated that the tone of the email was quite
'scoldy'. (I do appreciate however, that the other lady may
simply have been worried about her husband and/or not aware of
how her tone was coming across).
The request itself is not unreasonable, and I agree the OP
should probably wear a mask if she's going to keep sitting
there. At the same time however, I tend to agree with other
posters who say that if the other lady is so concerned about
catching Covid that the onus is more on her to take steps to
avoid public places.
#Post#: 75994--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mask issue at church
By: sms Date: June 22, 2022, 7:30 am
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[quote author=Jem link=topic=2325.msg75990#msg75990
date=1655889342]
[quote author=Surly link=topic=2325.msg75987#msg75987
date=1655863098]
Since she emailed and asked you politely, I think the right
thing to do is wear a mask, or enjoy an online service from
home.
[/quote]
I’m curious why you would recommend the OP enjoy the online
service from home and not the person complaining. Perhaps I
misunderstood you. It seems to me it is the person complaining
who should take additional steps given her fear of COVID, not
the OP.
[/quote]
Agreed. Wouldn't that make more sense? I moved downstairs at
her request to allay some of her concerns.
#Post#: 75996--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mask issue at church
By: sms Date: June 22, 2022, 7:44 am
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I find there are extremes on both ends, some people dug their
heels in and wouldn't mask or follow public health rules when
Covid was at it's worst. But now there are some who want to
keep wearing masks - that's fine, if you have you have your
reasons that's your business - but think that anyone who doesn't
share their opinions and concerns simply don't care about anyone
else.
And it's simply not true, and an unkind assumption.
Some people will want to mask "just in case, better safe than
sorry, " for a long, long time.
#Post#: 76683--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mask issue at church
By: Tea Drinker Date: August 5, 2022, 4:06 pm
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[quote author=Xainte link=topic=2325.msg75996#msg75996
date=1655901842]
I find there are extremes on both ends, some people dug their
heels in and wouldn't mask or follow public health rules when
Covid was at it's worst. But now there are some who want to
keep wearing masks - that's fine, if you have you have your
reasons that's your business - but think that anyone who doesn't
share their opinions and concerns simply don't care about anyone
else.
And it's simply not true, and an unkind assumption.
Some people will want to mask "just in case, better safe than
sorry, " for a long, long time.
[/quote]
I will be masking for a long time, because I'm on medication
that means the vaccines didn't work for me. [Three full doses
and a booster, no measurable antibodies two weeks after the last
dose.]
Masking, distancing, and ventilation are three different
non-pharmaceutical interventions, and combining them can help.
If I saw "the loft is for people who want to social distance," I
would have no idea of whether that meant it was for people who
wanted the benefits of distancing plus masking, or if it was for
people"for people who want some protection but can't wear a
mask.
If it was me, I would ask someone at the church office whether
masks are required in the loft. Regardless of the answer, I
would also ask them to clarify the signs/notices--either "the
choir loft is for people who want to socially distance. Masks
are optional in the loft as well as downstairs" or "the loft is
for people who want to socially distance. Masking is required if
you will be sitting in the loft."
I would be more likely to go to services -- or any other indoor
event -- if masking was required. I would be unhappy if I went
upstairs, and the other people there weren't masked. There are
also people, like the OP, who want to be able to distance but
not wear masks.
#Post#: 76686--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mask issue at church
By: Isisnin Date: August 6, 2022, 10:56 am
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[quote author=Tea Drinker link=topic=2325.msg76683#msg76683
date=1659733601]
...
If it was me, I would ask someone at the church office whether
masks are required in the loft. Regardless of the answer, I
would also ask them to clarify the signs/notices--either "the
choir loft is for people who want to socially distance. Masks
are optional in the loft as well as downstairs" or "the loft is
for people who want to socially distance. Masking is required if
you will be sitting in the loft."
...
[/quote]
Absolutely. I'm a literal person. To me, social distancing is
staying 6 ft away from others. Masking is wearing a mask over
your nose and mouth. Thus, it would not have occurred to me to
wear a mask up in the loft that was reserved for social
distancing.
The church leader(s)/elder(s) should clarify the rules for the
loft and post signage accordingly. Then (hopefully) the woman
would stop policing the loft - probably not since she could've
asked the leadership for clarity, but choose to tell people
herself.
#Post#: 76720--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mask issue at church
By: STiG Date: August 8, 2022, 9:43 pm
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I don't think you were wrong to sit in the loft, well away from
other members. I also don't think the woman who emailed you was
wrong to make the request, considering her husband's medical
situation.
I like the idea of responding that you have both been triple
vaxxed and are careful to social distance, due to your husband's
medical issues. That you will comply with her request and sit
in the main sanctuary.
When the mask mandate was lifted, I continued to wear my mask in
public indoor spaces. I'm immunocompromised, with a chronic
cough at times. Plus, I haven't had to school my facial
features for over 2 years. I needed some time to work on that!
My husband stopped wearing a mask except in quasi-medical
situations like chiropractor and massage therapist. Well, about
a month ago, I got Covid. My husband was three days behind me.
We had severe head cold symptoms, he had a fever, I didn't but
had rolling hot flashes that are still going on. So now I have
antibodies to this new variant that has been circumventing the
antibodies from vaccination and previous infections. So now, I
don't wear my mask in settings where I know (most of) the people
there, like church and our local Legion but still wear my mask
when shopping. We are also now delayed 3 months before we can
get the 4th booster, which is kind of good because they are
working on tailoring it to these new variants. So we should be
able to get a more effective booster come October.
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