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Re: Strangers correcting children
By: oogyda Date: March 31, 2022, 4:00 pm
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A video showing a variety of peafowl sounds. Keep in mind they
are naturally VERY loud, but I won't suggest you turn your
volume up.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR7xlUOLmdU
I don't think the other woman corrected your grandchildren. She
was being passive aggressive in her remarks in the hopes that
you would correct your grandchildren.
Once someone else came out into the public space that one would
naturally expect to share with others, you and your grandchild
should have done what was in your power to mitigate the noise.
You may not have been able to shut the peacock up, but you could
correct and direct your granddaughter.
I'm more concerned with the idea that you allowed her to
approach an unfamiliar animal. Perhaps you don't know that
peafowl are known to be aggressive and their size makes that
particularly dangerous.
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Re: Strangers correcting children
By: Aleko Date: April 1, 2022, 3:38 am
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[quote]I'm more concerned with the idea that you allowed her to
approach an unfamiliar animal. Perhaps you don't know that
peafowl are known to be aggressive and their size makes that
particularly dangerous.[/quote]
And conversely, an animal that is not aggressive may well be
extremely stressed by people coming close to them and making
noises at them. Baritone108 and the children may have found the
“conversation” charming, but the bird may well have been
hunkered down tensely, screaming at the child to come no closer.
Peacocks scream for a number of reasons, but one common one is
that they feel threatened.
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Re: Strangers correcting children
By: IWish Date: April 1, 2022, 9:18 am
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Our neighborhood has a colony of peacocks so I can attest to the
volume level and "shreakiness" of their calls.
OP was rude, IMO, to allow this to go on for 10 minutes.
Especially since OP knew it was annoying at least one other
customer.
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Re: Strangers correcting children
By: jpcher Date: April 2, 2022, 11:26 am
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I'm going against the grain here . . . I don't think that OP was
rude at all. She was taking her granddaughter out for an
experience, which was achieved. Imagine the little girl talking
about how she and peacock had a conversation! The first time
ever! How cool is that?
Me, myself and I? Not having the knowledge of how irritating a
constant peacock call could be to others I would have enjoyed
the moment with my granddaughter the same as OP did (along with
others in the crowd who were laughing).
After all, is 10 minutes of your life really that damaging?
I've had murders of crows land in my trees and caw oh, so
loudly, for much longer than 10 minutes. But that's nature,
nothing I can do about it, so I just enjoy the wonder of it all.
That's what OP was doing . . . enjoying the wonder of it all,
first time experience hearing a peacock noise.
However, from all the previous posts (and there were excellent
points made), if I were OP? I would learn from the comments and
think about it if this experience would happen again.
Again, in my opinion, OP did nothing wrong or rude. Other woman
was PA.
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Re: Strangers correcting children
By: Kimberami Date: April 6, 2022, 10:14 am
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This was several years ago. I went with my family to an
aquarium. As a little background, I have some PTSD. Loud, sudden
noises can trigger me. This is my issue, and I deal with it.
Part of the tour led us through a tunnel that was surrounded by
the fish tank. It was very beautiful. When a shark went over our
heads, a little boy about 8 years old started screaming Mom in a
high pitched tone. I covered my ears and said "Too Loud"
reflexively. The kid wouldn't stop screaming about the shark. He
wasn't afraid. He was amazed. I understood his excitement, but
he was ruining the experience for the rest of us. His voice was
vibrating back off of the walls. Finally several people said
something along the lines of Be quiet kid. Mom then said
something to the child. I don't know if she found it cute or
tuned it out.
A park outside is a different experience. I don't expect
children to be silent or sedate. I do expect to be given an
opportunity to enjoy myself, too. Even five minutes of screaming
with peacocks would ruin my experience.
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Re: Strangers correcting children
By: Gellchom Date: April 14, 2022, 3:20 am
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I do agree with the majority that the OP let this go on too
long. Peacocks are LOUD, so presumably the child was, too, and
ten minutes is a long time of screaming, even if it is cute bird
conversation.
I’m not posting to pile on, though, only to comment on the
subject of the post: “Strangers correcting children.” In the
abstract, that’s a hot topic that people, communities, and
cultures disagree about, and frankly I’m glad we didn’t stray
into that (please please don’t let this post start it!)
But in this situation, it sounds not like the woman was taking
it upon herself to teach others’ children manners; she was
trying to stop noise that was affecting her and others - she
might just as well have acted if it were an adult, animal, or
even a machine making noise. Big difference.
Say you are in a nice restaurant, and a child at another table
is talking with her mouth full or picking her nose, and her
parents don’t do anything. Can you go over and correct her? Of
course not, even though it’s grossing you out.
But say instead that the child is running around the room and
yelling or dancing, and the parents do nothing. Can you say
something (nicely, of course) to the child as she runs past your
table, especially after it’s been going on a while?
In my opinion, of course you can. That’s not butting into
someone else’s parenting, it’s reasonably and politely
protecting your own (and others’) interests. I mean, suppose a
child is banging a toy on your car, or for that matter anyone’s,
denting it - would anyone call telling them to stop an
inappropriate “strangers correcting children” situation? And
let’s not even talk about if the child is endangering herself.
I think it puts a thumb on the scale to cast this story as
”strangers correcting children.”
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Re: Strangers correcting children
By: sandisadie Date: April 14, 2022, 3:48 pm
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Gellchom - thank you for this perspective. I very much agree
with you and hadn't thought about this thread from this
viewpoint.
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