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       Re: Another Spin-Off:  Allergies of Convenience
       By: oogyda Date: March 5, 2022, 9:56 am
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       [quote author=Hello Ducky link=topic=2281.msg74122#msg74122
       date=1646450116]
       [quote author=Venus193 link=topic=2281.msg73610#msg73610
       date=1644202992]
       Someone I know now has claimed to be allergic to all spices and
       seasonings (not the same personI mentioned in the other thread).
       When I announced that I was making boeuf bourgignon for the
       Christmas party she asked if there was any pepper in it I told
       her that there would be no bell peppers.  I did not mention that
       ground pepper is in the marinade.  She has used my jar of adobo
       that I sometimes bring along to the pub and that stuff contains
       pepper.
       [/quote]
       That really was a foolish, selfish, and dangerous thing to do.
       [/quote]
       If someone claims to he allergic, I will respect that.  I
       probably won't be cooking for them either.
       #Post#: 74133--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another Spin-Off:  Allergies of Convenience
       By: sandisadie Date: March 5, 2022, 10:06 am
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       I'm curious as to why someone would profess to having an allergy
       to something when they actually don't.  Is it to just keep from
       eating something they don't like, or to get attention, or what?
       #Post#: 74135--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another Spin-Off:  Allergies of Convenience
       By: Venus193 Date: March 5, 2022, 3:16 pm
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       One person I knew had a phobia about fish because of a painful
       experience in childhood when s bone was caught in her throat.
       This phobia got worse with time.
       One person may have reacted badly to things her mother never
       served; the mother's cooking reminded me of Mrs Trefoil in Die,
       Die, My Darling.
       The person in this thread previously ate certain things multiple
       times before saying she was allergic and nobody had ever
       witnessed an allergic reaction.  She is still raving about the
       boeuf.  Hence, it's about what she doesn't like.
       #Post#: 74140--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another Spin-Off:  Allergies of Convenience
       By: sawa Date: March 6, 2022, 3:15 am
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       [quote author=Lilipons link=topic=2281.msg73684#msg73684
       date=1644449155]
       It”s always best to assume that announced allergies are real.
       However, the one who professed an allergy to all seasonings
       reminds me of a post about someone who claimed she could have no
       spices because of “seasonal” allergies.
       [/quote]
       I mean... I can see why it's funny, but this is where most of my
       food allergies come from, including many seasonings. They're
       called cross allergies or cross-reactions and mean that being
       allergic to certain pollens means I'm also allergic to certain
       foods. The most common cross allergy is birch pollen + apples
       and carrots, at least in the area where I am. The food allergies
       are worse when there's more pollen in the air, so it's seasonal.
       I'm allergic to several seasonings, but there are just too many
       to test individually, so I don't know exactly to what and to
       what extent and most specifically: when the most. So I might eat
       your food okay at one point and have an immediate rash and
       difficulties breathing at other. I know, not the most sought
       after dinner guest.
       #Post#: 74160--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another Spin-Off:  Allergies of Convenience
       By: Catananche Date: March 7, 2022, 1:05 pm
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       I have the cross-allergy birch-apple. I have seasonal allergies
       and take medication, but a few year ago I mentioned to my
       husband that the apple I was eating was 'prickly' in my mouth. A
       tingly sensation, just like I have with kiwi. After reading
       about cross-allergies I don't eat raw apple any more. Cooked,
       baked etc are all fine.
       I take allergies/intolerance serious but people have to tell me
       about them before I start cooking something! I can't leave out
       ingredients half-way through the process without messing the
       dish up.
       People are claiming allergies because their preferences aren't
       taken seriously. I don't eat shrimp, I'm not allergic.
       Technically I can eat them, I really don't like them. The amount
       of people trying to convince me that their shrimp dish is going
       to make me change my mind is absolutely staggering. I'm an
       adult, I don't like shrimp. Yes, even your shrimp dish.
       #Post#: 74259--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another Spin-Off:  Allergies of Convenience
       By: TootsNYC Date: March 13, 2022, 1:38 pm
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       [quote author=sandisadie link=topic=2281.msg74133#msg74133
       date=1646496419]
       I'm curious as to why someone would profess to having an allergy
       to something when they actually don't.  Is it to just keep from
       eating something they don't like, or to get attention, or what?
       [/quote]
       It's usually to keep from being pestered about eating something
       they don't like.
       #Post#: 74260--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another Spin-Off:  Allergies of Convenience
       By: TootsNYC Date: March 13, 2022, 1:43 pm
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       [quote author=Amigurumi link=topic=2281.msg74160#msg74160
       date=1646679902]
       People are claiming allergies because their preferences aren't
       taken seriously. I don't eat shrimp, I'm not allergic.
       Technically I can eat them, I really don't like them. The amount
       of people trying to convince me that their shrimp dish is going
       to make me change my mind is absolutely staggering. I'm an
       adult, I don't like shrimp. Yes, even your shrimp dish.
       [/quote]
       My daughter has gotten so tired of being badgered about eating
       meat ("you'll like it when it's cooked my way") that she has
       become a "social vegetarian" (I think that's the term she used).
       She has no philosophical objection to eating meat; she just
       generally dislikes it intensely. (Texture, mostly.)
       #Post#: 74307--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another Spin-Off:  Allergies of Convenience
       By: VorFemme Date: March 15, 2022, 4:42 pm
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       [quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=2281.msg74259#msg74259
       date=1647196739]
       [quote author=sandisadie link=topic=2281.msg74133#msg74133
       date=1646496419]
       I'm curious as to why someone would profess to having an allergy
       to something when they actually don't.  Is it to just keep from
       eating something they don't like, or to get attention, or what?
       [/quote]
       It's usually to keep from being pestered about eating something
       they don't like.
       [/quote]
       I spent decades telling people that I didn't eat dill pickles.
       In my fifties, I tried Greek cooking and discovered that the
       ONLY unusual ingredient in a yogurt, dill, lemon, and garlic
       sauce - was the dill.  My mouth itched quite a bit.  I spent the
       next few "family events" refusing the family dishes with the
       comment, "No, thanks, but I've discovered that I am ALLERGIC to
       dill."  Shut down the half-heard comments about refusing to eat
       the traditional family recipes.  Which featured dill pickles in
       copious quantities...
       #Post#: 75651--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another Spin-Off:  Allergies of Convenience
       By: Contrarian Date: May 26, 2022, 10:50 am
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       This is a touchy topic for me because I have food allergies,
       food intolerances and I’m also a picky eater.
       I have a very sensitive palate. And am very scent sensitive.
       Taste and smell are connected but those who are strongly
       effected (affected? It’s an ESL thing) by scent are usually not
       challenged. Entire work places work around it.
       But when I say I can taste the thing someone says I won’t be
       able to taste, then I’m just a liar. Or a baby. Or was spoiled
       when I was a child.
       Because I dislike so many things, I’m considered a brat who
       never tasted different foods. Spoiled by my parents and somehow
       I’m accused of being demanding, despite the fact that I don’t
       ask for accommodations.
       But people get outright angry if one food they’ve put on your
       plate is left to the side.
       I grew up in Iran, and it’s true we mostly ate chicken or lamb
       and rice, fruit and dates and figs, etc. Mediterranean type
       foods.
       But I’ve never liked fish of any kind. And I just won’t eat it.
       I don’t see why I should.
       I could claim to be a vegan, that would be accepted, but that I
       merely chose to not put in my mouth anything I don’t want to is
       somehow rude.
       I am allergic to tomatoes. There is something in fresh tomatoes
       that make me nauseated, but I won’t die. And when the tomatoes
       are processed, like the type of tomato sauce you can buy in a
       can or that’s in ketchup, the thing that makes me nauseated
       disappears. So again, I’m a called a liar, because people don’t
       understand that proteins in food can change depending on how
       they are prepared.
       I had a waitress friend yell at me saying I shouldn’t say I’m
       allergic because then she wouldn’t have to go through all the
       work of avoiding cross contamination.
       I waitressed for years and cooked. I’ve never found it a big
       deal. But more disturbing is that she doesn’t mind my leaving
       the restaurant feeling nauseated for a couple of hours as long
       as it’s not an inconvenience to her.
       I don’t like a lot of vegetables. I’ll eat romaine lettuce, bell
       peppers, carrots, potatoes, zucchini. That’s about it. I don’t
       like olives, cucumbers, celery. Foods very prominent in my
       childhood culture. Not like olives in the Middle East is unheard
       of. Nonetheless…
       I don’t like peaches, or cooked fruit, or mixed flavours or milk
       in my coffee.
       Cream heated up sends me to the bathroom in minutes. But I can
       eat cheese, and cold milk and ice cream.
       I just don’t see how it’s anyones business. I never ask for
       accommodation and I just don’t think a hostess should watch what
       their guest eats and what they don’t. I will always find
       something to eat.
       And it’s not that I haven’t tried things. I love Thai food, and
       Mexican and pasta (with garlic and oil), West Indian food,
       tandoori, Hakka.
       I love my friends because they invite me for dinner to spend
       time with me. They will make their big dish that I may not eat
       and not get insulted when I just eat the pita and hummus, or
       what ever nibbles they’ve put out. They make fun of me
       sometimes, and my sister never stops commenting on what I eat
       and what I make. But sisters are like that.
       I love food and I love cooking, so I know what it’s like to want
       to cook for others.
       But you may have friends you like despite the fact they don’t
       like your signature moussaka.
       If people are dramatic about their food issues, they must be
       dramatic about everything. That’s who they are. Don’t invite
       dramatic people over.
       For the rest of us, who want to enjoy your company, and don’t
       want to be asked, “why aren’t you eating this?”  “Why haven’t
       you tried that?” Just let us quietly take care of ourselves with
       what’s on offer and enjoy spending time together.
       Don’t ask why. Don’t ask what. Most of us don’t want to talk
       about it and be judged by it or questioned about it in a room
       full of or peers.
       I do eat food I don’t want to sometimes. But I will never again
       eat a piece of fish no matter who it angers. I really believe no
       one should be peer pressured into putting anything into their
       mouths that they don’t want to.
       Please just cook what you like.
       #Post#: 75652--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another Spin-Off:  Allergies of Convenience
       By: chigger Date: May 26, 2022, 11:06 am
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       Excellent  post, Contrarian!
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