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Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: Dottyg Date: February 21, 2022, 12:36 pm
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[quote author=Jem link=topic=2281.msg73632#msg73632
date=1644263659]
[quote author=Venus193 link=topic=2281.msg73610#msg73610
date=1644202992]
It seems she says she's allergic to anything she doesn't like
the first time and is just a picky eater. This can seriously
cramp other people's cooking styles.
Is there anything that can be done about this?
[/quote]
I don't understand why this would cramp anyone's cooking styles.
If she asks whether a dish has something she claims to be
allergic to in it, be honest with her. She is an adult and can
choose to eat it or not. I don't think it is necessary to cater
to people like that. I certainly don't expect people to consider
my preferences when cooking. I can choose to eat a dish or not.
I can choose to eat what I prefer before or after a dining
experience if I choose not to eat what is served (or much of
what is served).
I don't see any need to call anyone out for anything. I am not
sure what the goal of that would be.
[/quote]
If I'm going to someone's home, I need them to know I'm very
allergic to shellfish. And it's not just whether the shrimp or
lobster or whatever is in the dish. If they are going to cook
shellfish, I need them to let me know ahead of time, so I can
graciously decline the invitation. I'm not sure how many people
are aware of this, but some allergies can be triggered by even
being in the same room as the allergen. If you're serving
shrimp to everyone, I will have a reaction even if I don't eat
it. The allergen is in the air around me.
I will, absolutely, be very polite and apologetic in my decline
of your invitation to dinner. But I do need to know if you're
going to be serving shellfish.
(And, if you think this makes it difficult to dine out, you'd be
correct. I once broke out in hives - thank goodness not a
throat-closing-up instance this time - by someone at a nearby
table that had shrimp for their meal. I can't control that.
But anyone that eats with me does know I have this allergy and
has always been kind enough not to order it.)
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Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: Jem Date: February 21, 2022, 12:44 pm
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[quote author=OceanSpray link=topic=2281.msg73892#msg73892
date=1645468574]
[quote author=Jem link=topic=2281.msg73632#msg73632
date=1644263659]
[quote author=Venus193 link=topic=2281.msg73610#msg73610
date=1644202992]
It seems she says she's allergic to anything she doesn't like
the first time and is just a picky eater. This can seriously
cramp other people's cooking styles.
Is there anything that can be done about this?
[/quote]
I don't understand why this would cramp anyone's cooking styles.
If she asks whether a dish has something she claims to be
allergic to in it, be honest with her. She is an adult and can
choose to eat it or not. I don't think it is necessary to cater
to people like that. I certainly don't expect people to consider
my preferences when cooking. I can choose to eat a dish or not.
I can choose to eat what I prefer before or after a dining
experience if I choose not to eat what is served (or much of
what is served).
I don't see any need to call anyone out for anything. I am not
sure what the goal of that would be.
[/quote]
If I'm going to someone's home, I need them to know I'm very
allergic to shellfish. And it's not just whether the shrimp or
lobster or whatever is in the dish. If they are going to cook
shellfish, I need them to let me know ahead of time, so I can
graciously decline the invitation. I'm not sure how many people
are aware of this, but some allergies can be triggered by even
being in the same room as the allergen. If you're serving
shrimp to everyone, I will have a reaction even if I don't eat
it. The allergen is in the air around me.
I will, absolutely, be very polite and apologetic in my decline
of your invitation to dinner. But I do need to know if you're
going to be serving shellfish.
(And, if you think this makes it difficult to dine out, you'd be
correct. I once broke out in hives - thank goodness not a
throat-closing-up instance this time - by someone at a nearby
table that had shrimp for their meal. I can't control that.
But anyone that eats with me does know I have this allergy and
has always been kind enough not to order it.)
[/quote]
I was responding to the red phrases - the idea of "not
legitimate allergies" (which is the topic of this thread) and
what can be done about people who claim them. I don't think
there is anything that can or should be "done." People can and
should make their own choices about what they want to eat.
I think individuals need to take ownership of their own
allergies and preferences (and obviously those are different
things) and make choices accordingly. It sounds like you take
ownership of your allergy and make the right choices for
yourself, OceanSpray!
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Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: VorFemme Date: February 27, 2022, 10:51 am
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[quote author=gellchom link=topic=2281.msg73638#msg73638
date=1644323083]
I don't know about Venus193's friend, but I have an uncle and a
friend who both have real and serious allergies to all kinds of
fish, not just shellfish.
My husband and I are both cilantro "tasters," so although we are
not allergic to it, and we won't get sick, we will gag on it.
Unfortunately -- I wish we could eat it; it's everywhere.
Anyway, we clearly tell waiters "No cilantro in anything,
please," and then repeat it at the end of the order, but half
the time we get it anyway (I think probably they tell the
kitchen, but the kitchen workers are busy and just make things
the way they always do, and the server forgets to check.) We
have had several restaurants tell us to say we are allergic! We
still don't, but I'm just passing on that that's what they said
is the only way to make sure they pay attention.
[/quote]
I am a taster - so is my mother. My husband adores Mexican food
and finds cilantro to add a great deal of flavor. I can handle
about six chips with salsa but can't handle something like
cilantro rice or other sauces at all (even if I skip the chips &
salsa). I go to his favorite restaurants and read the menu very
carefully to find something that I can enjoy eating. I have a
few other mild allergies (dill & arugula I know about - not sure
what is in another dish that I just avoid now) - but they are
MILD in part because I have cut out exposure to dishes
containing them (started refusing anything with dill in it at
about age four - had a reputation as a picky eater "for no
reason" for fifty years - then tried some Greek dish & found out
that my mouth immediately started itching - no more arguments
about trying Grandma's family recipes with dill).
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Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: STiG Date: February 27, 2022, 1:08 pm
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My life just got more difficult to eat anywhere but my own home.
My sensitivity to scents and chemicals, especially chlorinated
chemicals, has given me a new sensitivity: Prewashed produce.
DH and I are trying to eat better and are eating salad almost
every day. My preference is for what is called 'Spring Mix'
here - a mixture of a variety of baby lettuces and greens. The
only way to purchase it in grocery stores is prewashed. I'm
guessing that the washing water contains higher than tap water
normal levels of chlorine because the inside of my mouth has
been irritated. So now I get to wash the prewashed lettuce!
We've purchased some aerogardens so we can grow our own fresh
lettuce year round but I haven't got enough of them up and
running yet to give us a continuous supply of lettuce.
So now, if we eat out at a restaurant, I now have to ask how
their lettuce is washed. We aren't visiting anyone for dinner
right now, except DsD and SIL and we usually bring the meal but
it may get sticky as things open up again this summer.
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Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: LurkingGurl Date: February 27, 2022, 1:49 pm
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[quote author=STiG link=topic=2281.msg74030#msg74030
date=1645988888]
My life just got more difficult to eat anywhere but my own home.
My sensitivity to scents and chemicals, especially chlorinated
chemicals, has given me a new sensitivity: Prewashed produce.
DH and I are trying to eat better and are eating salad almost
every day. My preference is for what is called 'Spring Mix'
here - a mixture of a variety of baby lettuces and greens. The
only way to purchase it in grocery stores is prewashed. I'm
guessing that the washing water contains higher than tap water
normal levels of chlorine because the inside of my mouth has
been irritated. So now I get to wash the prewashed lettuce!
We've purchased some aerogardens so we can grow our own fresh
lettuce year round but I haven't got enough of them up and
running yet to give us a continuous supply of lettuce.
So now, if we eat out at a restaurant, I now have to ask how
their lettuce is washed. We aren't visiting anyone for dinner
right now, except DsD and SIL and we usually bring the meal but
it may get sticky as things open up again this summer.
[/quote]
Are you certain that it's the prewash? Is it ok if you re-wash
it? I've found sometimes they will use some variety of "greens"
in the mix that doesn't agree with me. I'm not sensitive to
chlorine, but I am sensitive to certain nuts, certain greens and
some fruits. I've given up ordering salad at restaurants unless
they specify romaine, bibb, arugula or iceberg. Greens just
don't do it for me--I end up having to pick things out of it.
I'm just wondering if maybe it's actually one of the greens. I
wash all my produce, especially the pre-washed stuff. I feel
that their "wash" could inadvertently add some bacteria or other
contaminant that I am not used to. I'm used to the water in the
my own home so drenching it in that and drying it makes me feel
more confident I won't get sick.
#Post#: 74032--------------------------------------------------
Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: STiG Date: February 27, 2022, 1:54 pm
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It is definitely the wash. If I rewash it, I don't have the
issue. I also don't have the issue with my own lettuce mix,
which contains many of the same lettuces.
#Post#: 74037--------------------------------------------------
Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: NFPwife Date: February 27, 2022, 6:57 pm
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[quote author=STiG link=topic=2281.msg74032#msg74032
date=1645991661]
It is definitely the wash. If I rewash it, I don't have the
issue. I also don't have the issue with my own lettuce mix,
which contains many of the same lettuces.
[/quote]
Ugh. Like you needed another complicated sensitivity. I'm so
sorry.
#Post#: 74041--------------------------------------------------
Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: STiG Date: February 28, 2022, 6:08 am
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Thank you, PVZFan. It's just a further extension of an existing
sensitivity. Not discovered until now because I haven't been
eating salad! I'm so glad I grow so many of my own vegetables!
I don't seem to react to frozen vegetables, which I'm sure are
also prewashed. I'm guessing that cooking them modifies the
residue enough that it doesn't bother me.
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Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: Hello Ducky Date: March 4, 2022, 9:15 pm
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[quote author=Venus193 link=topic=2281.msg73610#msg73610
date=1644202992]
Someone I know now has claimed to be allergic to all spices and
seasonings (not the same personI mentioned in the other thread).
When I announced that I was making boeuf bourgignon for the
Christmas party she asked if there was any pepper in it I told
her that there would be no bell peppers. I did not mention that
ground pepper is in the marinade. She has used my jar of adobo
that I sometimes bring along to the pub and that stuff contains
pepper.
[/quote]
That really was a foolish, selfish, and dangerous thing to do.
#Post#: 74130--------------------------------------------------
Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: Venus193 Date: March 5, 2022, 8:48 am
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No, it wasn't because she had used my adobo in the past and I
don't buy the variety that excludes pepper. She has also eaten
my salads that almost always include Goya's Lemon Adobo.
I don't mess with things like shellfish or peanut allergies
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