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#Post#: 73675--------------------------------------------------
Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: Gellchom Date: February 9, 2022, 11:09 am
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[quote author=Venus193 link=topic=2281.msg73643#msg73643
date=1644328776]
But if someone would refuse to eat my boeuf bourgignon if I put
mushrooms in it I would tell them tough noogies. Omitted them
once and it completely changed the flavor of the food. Mushrooms
are needed to tame the flavor of the onions; the dish is out of
balance without them. French cooking is like that.
I don't have the space in my current apartment for dinner
parties, but if I ever move to one that has the space I will
need to deal with this from time to time.
[/quote]
I completely get it about not wanting to compromise your
wonderful recipe by leaving out mushrooms. I wouldn't want to,
either.
But doing that and telling your guests "tough noogies" aren't
the only two options.
I just wouldn't make that dish for someone who hates mushrooms.
I'd make something else.
I wasn't thrilled about making dishes without garlic or
scallions for that Tet dinner. I substituted hing and shallots,
and it was pretty close. But if it had not been a Tet dinner, I
just would have made something else entirely that didn't include
scallions or garlic in the first place.
#Post#: 73676--------------------------------------------------
Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: Hmmm Date: February 9, 2022, 12:01 pm
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[quote author=Rose Red link=topic=2281.msg73671#msg73671
date=1644422277]
[quote author=Venus193 link=topic=2281.msg73668#msg73668
date=1644421299]
Also, the last time I got a bagel with cream cheese and lox from
that place it cost $12.... about 5 years ago. I pick up lox
from my regular supermarket on the way back and now such a
delicacy of bagel, cream cheese, and lox ends up costing me
about $7.50 each and I get a little more lox on each one.
[/quote]
Prepared/assembled food is always so expensive. There's a
Japanese ramen place by my work and a small bowl of ramen with
egg and pork slices is around $11 (may be more now). Now that
I'm working from home, I make my own and all the ingredients
probably cost $3-5 per serving; maybe less. I put more toppings
on too, like veggies and ginger, which makes it taste better :D
[/quote]
The $11 for the $3 go $5 in ingredient cost is about right.
Restaurant industry rule of thumb is the menu price should be
about 3 times the raw materials cost to cover the restaurant
overhead, labor and product sourcing costs.
We used to eat out about 2 to 3 dinners a week and a couple of
lunches per week. We are probably down to 5 dinners out per
month and maybe 2 lunches out per month. While some of it is to
better control our diet, the other is just the cost.
#Post#: 73684--------------------------------------------------
Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: Lilipons Date: February 9, 2022, 5:25 pm
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It”s always best to assume that announced allergies are real.
However, the one who professed an allergy to all seasonings
reminds me of a post about someone who claimed she could have no
spices because of “seasonal” allergies.
#Post#: 73685--------------------------------------------------
Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: NFPwife Date: February 9, 2022, 7:00 pm
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[quote author=BeagleMommy link=topic=2281.msg73656#msg73656
date=1644349527]
I have a cousin who is severely allergic to all tree nuts
(almonds, walnuts, pecans, etc). He can eat peanuts. This is
because peanuts are not actually a nut; they are legumes.
He was called a liar by someone who knew he was allergic to nuts
who then saw him eat peanut butter cups. Trying to explain why
he could eat those went nowhere.
If I have an aversion to certain foods I will ask the restaurant
to leave the item off. If they forget, I pull it off myself
(although if they forget to leave off the mayonnaise I send it
back).
If someone tells me they're allergic I believe them. If they
say that because they have an aversion rather than an allergy I
don't question but I do tell them all the ingredients in
anything I cook.
[/quote]
I would be concerned that the person would intentionally slip
your cousin a tree nut to "prove" he's a liar.
Just one more reason to believe people and leave them alone
about their allergies, intolerances, and aversions.
#Post#: 73686--------------------------------------------------
Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: NFPwife Date: February 9, 2022, 7:03 pm
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[quote author=Hmmm link=topic=2281.msg73676#msg73676
date=1644429694]
[quote author=Rose Red link=topic=2281.msg73671#msg73671
date=1644422277]
[quote author=Venus193 link=topic=2281.msg73668#msg73668
date=1644421299]
Also, the last time I got a bagel with cream cheese and lox from
that place it cost $12.... about 5 years ago. I pick up lox
from my regular supermarket on the way back and now such a
delicacy of bagel, cream cheese, and lox ends up costing me
about $7.50 each and I get a little more lox on each one.
[/quote]
Prepared/assembled food is always so expensive. There's a
Japanese ramen place by my work and a small bowl of ramen with
egg and pork slices is around $11 (may be more now). Now that
I'm working from home, I make my own and all the ingredients
probably cost $3-5 per serving; maybe less. I put more toppings
on too, like veggies and ginger, which makes it taste better :D
[/quote]
The $11 for the $3 go $5 in ingredient cost is about right.
Restaurant industry rule of thumb is the menu price should be
about 3 times the raw materials cost to cover the restaurant
overhead, labor and product sourcing costs.
We used to eat out about 2 to 3 dinners a week and a couple of
lunches per week. We are probably down to 5 dinners out per
month and maybe 2 lunches out per month. While some of it is to
better control our diet, the other is just the cost.
[/quote]aversion.
Saving money has definitely been a nice effect of not eating out
during the pandemic. We were just talking about how we'll
probably eat out very little when rates drop here.
#Post#: 73687--------------------------------------------------
Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: Aleko Date: February 10, 2022, 6:04 am
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[quote]It”s always best to assume that announced allergies are
real.[/quote]
And, having assumed this and provided them with something that
contains none of the alleged allergen, to refuse point-blank to
let them have anything that does, no matter how much they
request it because ‘it smells so good’ and they’re sure that
‘just a few spoonfuls won’t do me any harm’. Because a good
host and friend could never allow their guest and friend to
commit self-harm under their roof, am I right?
#Post#: 73711--------------------------------------------------
Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: oogyda Date: February 11, 2022, 12:52 pm
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[quote author=PVZFan link=topic=2281.msg73686#msg73686
date=1644454993]
[quote author=Hmmm link=topic=2281.msg73676#msg73676
date=1644429694]
[quote author=Rose Red link=topic=2281.msg73671#msg73671
date=1644422277]
[quote author=Venus193 link=topic=2281.msg73668#msg73668
date=1644421299]
Also, the last time I got a bagel with cream cheese and lox from
that place it cost $12.... about 5 years ago. I pick up lox
from my regular supermarket on the way back and now such a
delicacy of bagel, cream cheese, and lox ends up costing me
about $7.50 each and I get a little more lox on each one.
[/quote]
Prepared/assembled food is always so expensive. There's a
Japanese ramen place by my work and a small bowl of ramen with
egg and pork slices is around $11 (may be more now). Now that
I'm working from home, I make my own and all the ingredients
probably cost $3-5 per serving; maybe less. I put more toppings
on too, like veggies and ginger, which makes it taste better :D
[/quote]
The $11 for the $3 go $5 in ingredient cost is about right.
Restaurant industry rule of thumb is the menu price should be
about 3 times the raw materials cost to cover the restaurant
overhead, labor and product sourcing costs.
We used to eat out about 2 to 3 dinners a week and a couple of
lunches per week. We are probably down to 5 dinners out per
month and maybe 2 lunches out per month. While some of it is to
better control our diet, the other is just the cost.
[/quote]aversion.
Saving money has definitely been a nice effect of not eating out
during the pandemic. We were just talking about how we'll
probably eat out very little when rates drop here.
[/quote]
Do you really think rates are going to drop?
I think certain things might, but overall prices will remain
high. Most definitely restaurant prices.
#Post#: 73714--------------------------------------------------
Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: TootsNYC Date: February 11, 2022, 2:18 pm
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I can't imagine any business is ever going to drop their prices,
now that people have been made used to paying more.
Real estate could crash, but it would surprise me if other
prices come down much.
Maybe I'm too pessimistic, or unaware of the economics of some
industries.
#Post#: 73723--------------------------------------------------
Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: NFPwife Date: February 11, 2022, 8:43 pm
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[quote author=oogyda link=topic=2281.msg73711#msg73711
date=1644605573]
[quote author=PVZFan link=topic=2281.msg73686#msg73686
date=1644454993]
[quote author=Hmmm link=topic=2281.msg73676#msg73676
date=1644429694]
[quote author=Rose Red link=topic=2281.msg73671#msg73671
date=1644422277]
[quote author=Venus193 link=topic=2281.msg73668#msg73668
date=1644421299]
Also, the last time I got a bagel with cream cheese and lox from
that place it cost $12.... about 5 years ago. I pick up lox
from my regular supermarket on the way back and now such a
delicacy of bagel, cream cheese, and lox ends up costing me
about $7.50 each and I get a little more lox on each one.
[/quote]
Prepared/assembled food is always so expensive. There's a
Japanese ramen place by my work and a small bowl of ramen with
egg and pork slices is around $11 (may be more now). Now that
I'm working from home, I make my own and all the ingredients
probably cost $3-5 per serving; maybe less. I put more toppings
on too, like veggies and ginger, which makes it taste better :D
[/quote]
The $11 for the $3 go $5 in ingredient cost is about right.
Restaurant industry rule of thumb is the menu price should be
about 3 times the raw materials cost to cover the restaurant
overhead, labor and product sourcing costs.
We used to eat out about 2 to 3 dinners a week and a couple of
lunches per week. We are probably down to 5 dinners out per
month and maybe 2 lunches out per month. While some of it is to
better control our diet, the other is just the cost.
[/quote]aversion.
Saving money has definitely been a nice effect of not eating out
during the pandemic. We were just talking about how we'll
probably eat out very little when rates drop here.
[/quote]
Do you really think rates are going to drop?
I think certain things might, but overall prices will remain
high. Most definitely restaurant prices.
[/quote]
That's about Covid rates. Not the $$.
It's been nice to save the money, but we just socked the
entertainment money we budget off to the side for a fancier
treat(s) so it'll be spent when our comfort benchmarks are hit.
Our metric is a rolling 7 day average of under 100 cases in our
county and back to the gym in masks, in store shopping (masked),
and pick up food for eating at home or outdoors.
#Post#: 73728--------------------------------------------------
Re: Another Spin-Off: Allergies of Convenience
By: oogyda Date: February 12, 2022, 10:46 am
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[quote author=PVZFan link=topic=2281.msg73723#msg73723
date=1644633780]
That's about Covid rates. Not the $$.
It's been nice to save the money, but we just socked the
entertainment money we budget off to the side for a fancier
treat(s) so it'll be spent when our comfort benchmarks are hit.
Our metric is a rolling 7 day average of under 100 cases in our
county and back to the gym in masks, in store shopping (masked),
and pick up food for eating at home or outdoors.
[/quote]
LOL. I misinterpreted that. ;D
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