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       #Post#: 73361--------------------------------------------------
       Son is engaged!  Advice requested
       By: Gellchom Date: January 28, 2022, 6:58 am
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       At jpcher’s suggestion, I am reposting this from the “good news”
       forum.  I do need your advice!
       Here are my posts from that page, so you don’t have to look
       back.
       I’m looking forward to your input.  It is so nice to have this
       community to share these experiences with.  Thanks in advance
       for your ideas, suggestions, and wisdom.
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       My son is engaged!
       So of course I am counting on all of you for good advice.
       It is a second marriage for both of them.  No children.
       This will be a very different experience this time.  Both his
       first wedding and our daughter’s wedding were in our (then)
       city, and we were mostly or completely hosting both times.  They
       were all in their mid twenties then; now in mid thirties with
       good careers.
       This time, it will be in their city, and they are doing the
       planning and paying, although we are chipping in: we will pay
       for a full open bar and a live band instead of a DJ if that’s
       what they decide.  Maybe more, but that’s so far.  They are able
       to afford what they want without us anyway.  We would’ve hosted
       dinner the night before for all the out of towers (there will be
       no attendants), but my mother already dibsed that!  :)  The HC
       will choose a nearby casual restaurant for that.
       They want it to be around 75 people, which is a small wedding in
       our family.  My son is worried about offending people, but I
       told him I am sure everyone will understand, especially for a
       second wedding, for some reason.  I just reminded him of the
       principle we talk about here that you can invite, say, 2 out of
       10 cousins (or other group) because you have a special
       relationship with them, but not 8 or 9 out of 10.  I also told
       him not to start with rules or cutoff lines, but to write down
       the names of the real people they are dealing with and then look
       at it.  Almost always, the answer is then clear.  There usually
       doesn’t need to be a “rule” at all.
       I’m sure I will need a lot of advice as we go along. I’m looking
       forward to sharing the ride with you all.
       ***
       Quote from: Rho on January 22, 2022, 09:19:41 pm
       Mazel Tov!
       When is the wedding?  How much time do we have to advise you?
       
       In August (2022).
       The bride keeps saying she doesn’t care about anything, and
       would I like to plan things, but I’m smart enough to resist that
       and keep my mouth shut (well, pretty much 😀).  She
       doesn’t want to be an obsessed bride, but of course she does
       care. Why shouldn’t she?  So does my son.
       I’m starting to look for a dress.  Advice definitely wanted
       there!  It is going to be dressy, but it’s not yet clear how
       dressy - as in, I don’t think they have decided what the
       invitations will say the attire will be. At least cocktail
       dress. I don’t want another long gown because I already have the
       two gorgeous ones I wore to his first wedding and my daughter’s
       wedding, and I love but rarely get to wear them. I don’t want a
       third!  So I hope to find a terrific short to tea length dress.
       My daughter wants to wear a fancy mini.  We’re planning to go
       shopping together soon.
       Any advice on that or any other area very much welcomed and
       appreciated!  It’s fun to share the ride with you.
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       Re: Son is engaged!  Advice requested
       By: Gellchom Date: January 28, 2022, 6:58 am
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       The only semi-update is that they are leaning toward “black tie
       optional” on the invitations.
       #Post#: 73391--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Son is engaged!  Advice requested
       By: jpcher Date: January 28, 2022, 4:59 pm
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       Do they have a venue picked out/reserved yet? What about
       photographer, DJ, caterer (if not included with the venue)?
       August is coming up pretty quickly and these things need to be
       contracted for NOW.
       For your dress, like many posters suggested to me, look at
       websites for the stores you are planning on going to in order to
       get a closer feel of what you are looking for and which stores
       you would like to shop at.
       Then, I strongly suggest that you call the store(s) to make sure
       they have dresses in your style, color and size. Due to COVID
       many stores are short stocked with items on the floor. (This is
       coming from my disastrous "Personal Shopper" thread where they
       had absolutely nothing in my size . . . totally wasted and
       frustrating trip.) If you call early enough, they may be able to
       stock your choice/size so that it will be available for you to
       try on when you get there.
       I'd like to suggest David's Bridal as a starting point, not only
       because I had a wonderful experience there, but because they
       have an awesome array of choices.
       Good Luck and Have FUN! ;D
       Please share pictures/links of dresses that you're looking at.
       #Post#: 73740--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Son is engaged!  Advice requested
       By: jpcher Date: February 13, 2022, 2:04 pm
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       How is the planning going? Did you find a dress?
       #Post#: 73742--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Son is engaged!  Advice requested
       By: bigbadbetty Date: February 13, 2022, 3:28 pm
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       My only advice is start looking for everything now. I heard that
       2022 is going to be a huge wedding year with many people putting
       off their celebrations. And put that together with supply
       shortages, it is going to be challenging! Congratulations to
       your son!
       I got married last year. My parents and my husband's parents
       gave us each a set amount of money (different amounts if that
       matters). I think that was a lot easier than offering to pay for
       such and such. We paid for everything else as we were even older
       than your son, but our parents wanted to contribute. It was the
       first marriage for both of use (very late bloomers lol). I had a
       similar sized wedding. I have tons of cousins. So I used the
       general metric of relatives who I have seen in the last 5 years.
       I still sometimes worry about where I cut off the lines, but
       it's such a hard choice.
       #Post#: 73826--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Son is engaged!  Advice requested
       By: Gellchom Date: February 16, 2022, 4:39 pm
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       They’ve got the venue (including catering) and most of the other
       major stuff reserved.  bigbadbetty is right about the COVID
       backup making for more competition for everything!  But they
       seem to have it under control.
       My daughter and I are having fun looking at dresses.  There
       aren’t links to the ones we’ve tried on here in Israel.  Here
       are a few from US stores that I like that I’ve seen online, but
       I’m disinclined to order without trying on, because the chances
       of proper fit are pretty remote, and the duty and return
       shipping are expensive.  I may be in the US this spring, and if
       so I can find them and/or others in department stores.  Great
       advice to call ahead, jpcher. Thanks!
  HTML https://www.nordstrom.com/s/kay-unger-lola-satin-twill-fit-flare-midi-cocktail-dress/5899514
  HTML https://www.saksfifthavenue.com/product/aidan-by-aidan-mattox-off-the-shoulder-bow-sheath-dress-0400014600577.html
  HTML https://www.saksfifthavenue.com/product/ml-monique-lhuillier-jacquard-fit--amp--flare-dress-0400015662914.html<br
       />(pricy but so pretty!)
       #Post#: 73845--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Son is engaged!  Advice requested
       By: bigbadbetty Date: February 17, 2022, 3:40 pm
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       Those dresses are pretty! And the first one allows you to wear a
       real bra! (I know it isn't a concern for every lady, but it is a
       must for me.) I think waiting until you can try-on is a good
       idea. Dresses have to fit correctly in so many different areas,
       and we women are all shaped so differently! Plus there are
       limits to how much can be taken in.
       #Post#: 73851--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Son is engaged!  Advice requested
       By: Hmmm Date: February 18, 2022, 8:44 am
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       Very pretty dresses. I like all of the styles. I agree about
       waiting till you can try on. I ordered 3 dresses in a style I
       thought I'd love. I got them and didn't like the style on me at
       all. Enjoy the planning and shopping.
       #Post#: 73855--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Son is engaged!  Advice requested
       By: lowspark Date: February 18, 2022, 3:15 pm
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       Agree about wearing a bra! LOL
       The second one is my least favorite only because it looks like
       it will be a bit confining for any kind of active dancing, the
       type of which goes on at Jewish weddings. I like to have room to
       move my legs around.  ;D
       Otherwise, they are all really beautiful.
       #Post#: 73857--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Son is engaged!  Advice requested
       By: Gellchom Date: February 18, 2022, 4:25 pm
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       A couple more contenders
  HTML https://www.nordstrom.com/s/eliza-j-floral-metallic-jacquard-cocktail-dress/5647831
  HTML https://www.nordstrom.com/s/kay-unger-tallulah-ruched-cocktail-dress/6087968
       Nordstrom has no time limit on returns, which could be a big
       help.
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