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       #Post#: 73075--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The More the Merrier?
       By: kareng57 Date: January 17, 2022, 11:00 pm
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       The poor child!  The hostess says that she actually "did not
       want to make her feel at home"??!!
       Sis was in the wrong, I have no argument with that.  But with
       the rest....just because you know her parents doesn't mean that
       she has cookie parties at home with them.  She was quite
       possibly looking forward to this experience.
       #Post#: 73092--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The More the Merrier?
       By: Jem Date: January 18, 2022, 9:01 am
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       [quote author=PVZFan link=topic=2239.msg73074#msg73074
       date=1642474043]
       [quote author=Wanaca link=topic=2239.msg73072#msg73072
       date=1642459929]
       Like a lot of people, I feel sorry for the girl.  I'm sure that
       she knew that she was NOT wanted and that the host didn't want
       to make her feel at home.  Maybe that's why Sister tried to
       focus on her.  Sister was obviously wrong, but an innocent girl
       paid the price.  Just because someone comes from an affluent
       family with a good home life doesn't mean that they don't have
       feelings that can be hurt.
       [/quote]
       Eh... I wouldn't make that assumption. Personally, I've been
       accommodating and engaging in any number of situations while
       secretly being quite angry. I can compartmentalize in the moment
       and I don't see anything that tells me Jem can't.
       I said upthread that my DH and I have been put in these
       situations many times and the most recent one we had a very
       lovely time with the extra guests - one was a great storyteller,
       I laughed till my side hurt. That doesn't mean I didn't complain
       about our friend changing the event on the drive home. While I
       leaned into the situation and made the best of the evening, I
       didn't appreciate having extra guests sprung on us at the very
       last minute (I had to have the restaurant change our table to
       accommodate them because the first we heard they were coming was
       when friend walked into the restaurant with them.)
       [/quote]
       Thank you for articulating how this actually played out. For
       those who imagined that I actively went out of my way to exclude
       the neighbor and hurt her feelings, your visions are not
       accurate. I was angry with my sister. I did not take it out on
       the neighbor girl. I did not *want* her to be there and did not
       *want* to hear about what she was up to, etc., but in actuality
       she ended up being the focus of the event. I did discuss it with
       my sister (and mother) after the fact and made it a point that,
       going forward, when I invited family I meant FAMILY.
       #Post#: 73443--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The More the Merrier?
       By: TootsNYC Date: January 31, 2022, 10:54 am
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       [quote author=katiekat2009 link=topic=2239.msg73069#msg73069
       date=1642455888]
       Your "beef" (complaint) is with your sister, not the child.
       Please don't begrudge the visiting child a bit of pleasure. I
       would be up to you, the host, to see that everyone's needs were
       met. Honestly, sounds like a case of jealously to me.
       [/quote]
       Since the upshot was that Jem's child was neglected, then
       clearly Jem didn't treat the visitor badly.
       I agree that the host has some influence here, but it's sort of
       hard to deal with in the moment; you have to be really practiced
       and have trained yourself with how to handle that.
       Also--you can't control how another person acts, and the person
       causing the "left out" problem was her sister.
       Maybe Jem could have called her sister into the other room and
       said, "Visitor Girl is here, and I don't want to treat her
       meanly at all, but you are making all your comments to her, and
       not to my daughter. Please be sure you are including all the
       girls, not just the visitor."
       I don't think I could think on my feet that fast.
       #Post#: 73444--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The More the Merrier?
       By: TootsNYC Date: January 31, 2022, 10:57 am
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       It's important to remember that this is an etiquette site, and
       we will all come here to discuss etiquette.
       Sometimes on a purely academic/hobbyist level, sometimes in a
       "revealing my inner thoughts to a trusted community" situations.
       And it's frustrating to have nefarious or rude intentions or
       actions acribed to us.
       Just because someone tells us they were upset, or didn't want to
       do something, doesn't mean they acted that way.
       Just become someone comes to say "ooh, I think this wasn't all
       that warm and fuzzy" doesn't mean we now hate the relative who
       signed her Christmas cards with a simple printed sticker.
       #Post#: 73445--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The More the Merrier?
       By: TootsNYC Date: January 31, 2022, 10:58 am
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       [quote]She is not the host, she has no right to try to extend
       someone else's hospitality to strangers.[/quote]
       Thou shalt not covet thy sister's hospitality.
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