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       #Post#: 71019--------------------------------------------------
       Discussion on FB making "flakiness" ok?
       By: Despedina Date: October 19, 2021, 9:32 am
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       Recently a FB "friend" posted a quote from someone (I think from
       twitter). To paraphrase, the statement from the person was
       "Inviting me to an activity a week ahead of time is too far out.
       Inviting me the day before is too last  minute. Where is my
       support group for this?"
       I know that this was said "tongue in cheek", but the poster had
       about 20 responses to this shared message that they completely
       agreed that they didn't like committing to things and usually
       wouldn't. One person even said that her friends know to keep
       every Sat open until she can decide that morning if she wanted
       to do something.  Another mentioned that when she no shows to
       things, her friends are super sweet and reach out to see if she
       is ok and check on her mental well being.
       I was a bit surprised. I really wanted to comment that when my
       "friends" no show to things or won't commit I usually lose
       interest in trying to invite them. I didn't say this because I
       didn't think it would change any minds. Is it wrong for me to
       think of these people as selfish? If you don't want to go to
       something, don't, but don't keep them hanging until Sat morning
       (for example) or no show then wait for them to contact you.
       #Post#: 71021--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussion on FB making "flakiness" ok?
       By: gramma dishes Date: October 19, 2021, 9:43 am
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       I'm with you.
       #Post#: 71022--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussion on FB making "flakiness" ok?
       By: Aleko Date: October 19, 2021, 10:04 am
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       Me too.
       I do also wonder very much if the friends who are "super sweet"
       to the person who apparently feels free to no-show to things
       without apology or explanation, and who "reach out to see if she
       is ok and check on her mental well being". are actually trying
       to convey to her that only a sudden tragic event, amnesia, or
       mental breakdown would justify standing one's friends up without
       a word, but she's just not getting it?
       #Post#: 71025--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussion on FB making "flakiness" ok?
       By: Hmmm Date: October 19, 2021, 11:07 am
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       Well, I guess she found her support group.  ;)
       Agree with others that this is a very selfish stance and show
       immaturity. I can remember in college my social group waiting
       till the last minute to plan things. But even, then if someone
       was wanting to plan a specific activity like a bday celebration
       or attending a festival together, we would all commit.
       #Post#: 71027--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussion on FB making "flakiness" ok?
       By: Despedina Date: October 19, 2021, 12:48 pm
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       Well I'm glad I'm not the only one to feel this way. In recent
       years, when the topic of "flaky" individuals come up with
       certain family members or even in a couple of youth
       organizations I"m in, I'm just told to let it go and hope that
       next time the person can make it (or show up for the task they
       were asked to take on where the organization is allowed). My
       response is always that I would never make a huge deal out of
       it, but at some point you have to stop inviting said person, or
       depending on them to do a task if that was going to be the norm
       with them. Not "hope" they show up and if they don't, scramble
       to get a task done or wonder if they are ok.  Some people just
       don't take well to that response.
       #Post#: 71033--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussion on FB making "flakiness" ok?
       By: Despedina Date: October 19, 2021, 3:59 pm
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       So I was scrolling FB and the post came through again. Here is
       the exact wording:
       I don't like agreeing to plans too far in advance because I
       don't know how I'll feel day of.  I also don't like same day
       plans because its too short notice. Where is my support group.
       There is also a new response which made me shake my head:  I
       can’t be held responsible for knowing what my mental state will
       be in advance
       #Post#: 71034--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussion on FB making "flakiness" ok?
       By: sms Date: October 19, 2021, 4:08 pm
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       Ooof not just selfish and rude but these people aren't even
       embarrassed about it?
       It's hard to tell on FB though since there's really no way to
       know the truth.  But even taking it at face value I can't help
       but think that "super sweet" friends enable this shit.
       Where's their self respect that they're OK with being a chump?
       #Post#: 71035--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussion on FB making "flakiness" ok?
       By: Titanica Date: October 19, 2021, 5:01 pm
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       I agree that it's extremely rude.
       And I think it's just another way of saying, "Ok, I'll do X with
       you if a better offer doesn't come along between now and then."
       #Post#: 71036--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussion on FB making "flakiness" ok?
       By: holly firestorm Date: October 19, 2021, 5:37 pm
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       I know people like that. They are called narcissists.
       People like that are friendly acquaintances, not friends.
       #Post#: 71038--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussion on FB making "flakiness" ok?
       By: Jem Date: October 19, 2021, 5:53 pm
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       [quote author=Despedina link=topic=2189.msg71033#msg71033
       date=1634677147]
       So I was scrolling FB and the post came through again. Here is
       the exact wording:
       I don't like agreeing to plans too far in advance because I
       don't know how I'll feel day of.  I also don't like same day
       plans because its too short notice. Where is my support group.
       There is also a new response which made me shake my head:  I
       can’t be held responsible for knowing what my mental state will
       be in advance
       [/quote]
       Obviously I don't know the people involved here, but I know a
       lot of people who might post something like that tongue in
       cheek. Lots of people I know consistently post self-deprecating
       comments or memes about how they don't know what they are doing
       in life or as a parent or ____, but in real life they are
       confident, funny, accomplished people. They are not intending
       their comments to be taken at face value.
       I would find it strange if the initial poster was actually in
       fact looking for a support group. I took it as more of a "does
       anyone else relate to this funny/awkward part about being a
       human?" Sort of like how I don't assume that people who use mugs
       at work that say "This might be vodka" are alcoholics. They are
       making what is arguably a funny statement.
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