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       #Post#: 70415--------------------------------------------------
       Gym equipment
       By: NFPwife Date: September 27, 2021, 7:40 pm
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       I saw something at the gym today that made me think about the
       right lane thread.
       There were two women side by side on the only two rowing
       machines at our gym. They were using the machines, technically.
       They'd row once or twice, chat, then row once or twice. There
       was a guy walking around them in a "let me check how long
       they're on this" way and he was fuming.
       I was near the whole thing and either the ladies were completely
       oblivious or they played oblivious really well.
       Once I noticed how angry he was, I paid more attention to the
       situation. They rowed once every 1-2 minutes and, from the time
       I noticed it, they were on the machines about 10 minutes. They
       sat and chatted a bit before finally getting off the rowers. By
       that time he'd given up and used something else.
       Were they rude? They technically used the rowers, not at a pace
       or effort that seemed like exercise, but they were pulling every
       so often. Granted we only have two rowers, but the frequency and
       intensity of their rows shouldn't matter. They were on them and
       using them so I thought, "Kind of like the right lane thing, it
       might inconvenience someone, but not rude." (I don't think the
       fellow member felt the same way.)
       What do you all think? Is it rude to use a piece of gym
       equipment in this manner?
       #Post#: 70418--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gym equipment
       By: Rho Date: September 27, 2021, 8:54 pm
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       Is it rude to sit at a table in a restaurant over an hour after
       finishing the meal to drink one cup of coffee and chat?
       They were using the machines but not in the way the machines
       were designed.
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       Re: Gym equipment
       By: Winterlight Date: September 27, 2021, 9:56 pm
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       Agreed. Rowing while talking would have been fine. Camping out
       on the equipment and chatting like they're on a park bench was
       rude.
       #Post#: 70423--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gym equipment
       By: holly firestorm Date: September 28, 2021, 12:13 am
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       You are probably right that they were oblivious, though. Rude,
       but without even knowing they were.
       A staff member should have gone over to them and pointed out
       that there were people waiting to use the machine, so if they
       weren't serious about using it, they should let someone else do
       so.
       Plus, how the heck do they think that make believe exercise is
       going to do them any good anyway? Maybe one of the trainers
       should have come over and led with that.  It would be different
       if they did some serious rowing and then took a break, went back
       to rowing and took a break. But, the way you described it
       sounded like more break than rowing. Maybe they were waiting for
       their trainer to really get started and didn't want to lose
       their spot?
       #Post#: 70427--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gym equipment
       By: NewHomeowner Date: September 28, 2021, 4:45 am
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       They were only on the machines for 10 minutes.  That's not
       excessive.  I'd be more inclined to call them Rude if they hung
       out for an hour, keeping other people from using the machines.
       It's possible they only went to the gym as a way to get out of
       the house for awhile without kids or husband, hence the
       chatting. It's not something I would do (gyms?  EEK), but I can
       understand them, I guess. 10 minutes.
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       Re: Gym equipment
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: September 28, 2021, 5:22 am
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       It's the ten minutes that won't allow me to deem this as rude.
       Admittedly, I'm not a gym goer, but I would think that if a
       machine is being used that one needs to assume that it will be
       used for a certain amount of time and to find something else to
       do and come back. I would think that ten minutes is appropriate
       for a rowing machine. Don't get me wrong, holding up a machine
       just to talk is not cool and probably the ladies should have
       focused their workout a bit more, but I would not want others
       determining whether I was working hard enough or not.
       #Post#: 70429--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gym equipment
       By: oogyda Date: September 28, 2021, 6:47 am
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       In my experience, most gyms have posted time limits for use of
       the equipment.  So, if they were within that time, they weren't
       rude.
       You timed them at 10 minutes from the time you noticed them.
       Even if we double that, I don't think 20 minutes is unreasonable
       or rude.
       They were there first and were using the machine.  I'm not going
       to judge their effort.
       #Post#: 70430--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gym equipment
       By: Rose Red Date: September 28, 2021, 7:00 am
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       The gym I used to attend have sign up sheets to reserve
       equipment in 30 minutes blocks. If nobody else signs up after
       your time's up, you can sign in for another 30 minutes, etc. I
       guess one reason is so one person doesn't hog a machine for
       hours and also you know when it's your turn.
       For gyms that's free for all, the guy can politely ask how long
       they'll be. But I must say the women were a bit rude.
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       Re: Gym equipment
       By: Effie Date: September 28, 2021, 8:00 am
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       Ten minutes might not be a big deal to people who are not on a
       schedule, but if someone is trying to get a workout on their
       lunch break or before work or between work and picking up their
       child after school, ten minutes IS a big deal. Especially when
       the limited equipment is occupied by people who could get the
       same workout sitting on a park bench chatting. Heck, yeah, those
       two were rude. The guy should have gotten gym personnel
       involved.
       #Post#: 70434--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gym equipment
       By: oogyda Date: September 28, 2021, 8:46 am
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       [quote author=Effie link=topic=2169.msg70432#msg70432
       date=1632834047]
       Ten minutes might not be a big deal to people who are not on a
       schedule, but if someone is trying to get a workout on their
       lunch break or before work or between work and picking up their
       child after school, ten minutes IS a big deal. Especially when
       the limited equipment is occupied by people who could get the
       same workout sitting on a park bench chatting. Heck, yeah, those
       two were rude. The guy should have gotten gym personnel
       involved.
       [/quote]
       Someone who is on that tight of a schedule should adjust their
       expectation of being able to do exactly what they want exactly
       when they want.  Since it would take at least half of those 10
       minutes to get gym personnel involved, it would be wisest and
       most effective to simply chose a different workout.
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