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#Post#: 70363--------------------------------------------------
Re: The right lane
By: mime Date: September 25, 2021, 9:13 am
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There's an intersection like that near me, too: a left turn
lane, a straight lane, and a straight-or-right lane. If the
straight drivers only used the middle lane, traffic would be
better for the people turning right, but that's a small portion
of the drivers at nearly any time of day. Putting so many people
in the middle lane would back up traffic severely, even through
the next closest intersection.
So straight drivers using the dual-purpose lane is crucial for
traffic flow here. That guy on NextDoor would have deserved the
backlash if it had been this intersection!
#Post#: 70401--------------------------------------------------
Re: The right lane
By: TootsNYC Date: September 27, 2021, 12:06 pm
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[quote author=Rose Red link=topic=2164.msg70266#msg70266
date=1632247110]
It may be annoying to the people behind you. Believe me, I've
been there. But as long as it's legal, they are not doing
anything wrong. Like others said, they may not be familiar with
the area and it's better to stay safe rather than try to get out
of the way by weaving around.
[/quote]
I disagree with this as a standard.
Etiquette is not the same as law. Nor is morality the same as
law. You can do lots of things that are wrong but are still
legal.
In this case, I think it's very easy for someone to not realize
that they're creating trouble for other people, so I'm not
willing to call it rude.
But as a general standard of judgment, "legal" is not the same
thing as "not rude" or "polite" or "right" or "not wrong."
It's just "not illegal."
#Post#: 70402--------------------------------------------------
Re: The right lane
By: oogyda Date: September 27, 2021, 1:04 pm
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Others have touched upon the suggestion that the person in the
right lane could/should move to the center/ non-turning lane
when approaching the light (especially if they know or suspect
they won't make it though the light) to accomadate those in the
right lane that intend to turn left and then move back into the
right lane after the intersection.
I think, in general, a person weaving in and out of traffic
causes more problems to the flow of traffic than what occurs
from having to wait to turn. While i have no direct sources,
everything I've ever learned about driving encouraged one to
change lanes as little as possible.
#Post#: 70403--------------------------------------------------
Re: The right lane
By: holly firestorm Date: September 27, 2021, 1:24 pm
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[quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=2164.msg70401#msg70401
date=1632762382]
[quote author=Rose Red link=topic=2164.msg70266#msg70266
date=1632247110]
It may be annoying to the people behind you. Believe me, I've
been there. But as long as it's legal, they are not doing
anything wrong. Like others said, they may not be familiar with
the area and it's better to stay safe rather than try to get out
of the way by weaving around.
[/quote]
I disagree with this as a standard.
Etiquette is not the same as law. Nor is morality the same as
law. You can do lots of things that are wrong but are still
legal.
In this case, I think it's very easy for someone to not realize
that they're creating trouble for other people, so I'm not
willing to call it rude.
But as a general standard of judgment, "legal" is not the same
thing as "not rude" or "polite" or "right" or "not wrong."
It's just "not illegal."
[/quote]
Sometimes "rude" is illegal...but, people do it anyway as long
as they can get away with it.
#Post#: 70640--------------------------------------------------
Re: The right lane
By: oogyda Date: October 5, 2021, 12:24 pm
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I was involved in a situation today that brought this post to
mind with a little twist.
The situation was that I was at an intersection in a right turn
only lane that is regulated by a stoplight. The person at the
front of the line (I was third) would not turn "right on red"
even though it is allowed at that intersection. I wondered how
the man in the OP would have felt about that.
I guess we have a little more patience around here, because
nobody honked even when the way was completely clear to turn.
I do think the traffic lights could be changed a little to help
the situation. This is a large intersection where those turning
left have specific times to do that with a green left arrow. If
there was a corresponding green right arrow like I have seen
around here, it would make it clear that one could turn right
without issue.
#Post#: 70648--------------------------------------------------
Re: The right lane
By: holly firestorm Date: October 5, 2021, 5:36 pm
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Oogyda, perhaps they should have honked, not out impatience.
But, I remember when I first moved to CA from NYC people honked
at me in this situation once or twice. The thing is a right turn
on red was not permitted in NYC, but it was in Los Angeles. So,
I was sitting at the light because I didn't realize I could make
that right turn.
#Post#: 70671--------------------------------------------------
Re: The right lane
By: TootsNYC Date: October 6, 2021, 4:13 pm
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[quote author=holly firestorm link=topic=2164.msg70648#msg70648
date=1633473361]
Oogyda, perhaps they should have honked, not out impatience.
But, I remember when I first moved to CA from NYC people honked
at me in this situation once or twice. The thing is a right turn
on red was not permitted in NYC, but it was in Los Angeles. So,
I was sitting at the light because I didn't realize I could make
that right turn.
[/quote]
We are ALWAYS having to remind ourselves that we can turn right
on red.
#Post#: 70689--------------------------------------------------
Re: The right lane
By: Hmmm Date: October 7, 2021, 8:14 am
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[quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=2164.msg70671#msg70671
date=1633554821]
[quote author=holly firestorm link=topic=2164.msg70648#msg70648
date=1633473361]
Oogyda, perhaps they should have honked, not out impatience.
But, I remember when I first moved to CA from NYC people honked
at me in this situation once or twice. The thing is a right turn
on red was not permitted in NYC, but it was in Los Angeles. So,
I was sitting at the light because I didn't realize I could make
that right turn.
[/quote]
We are ALWAYS having to remind ourselves that we can turn right
on red.
[/quote]
When we would drive in NYC, we were always having to remember
that we couldn't turn right on red. I wasn't the driver once,
but was in a van with a group from work and the driver got
pulled over for a right on red. The policeman looked at his out
of state DL and had sympathy for him.
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