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       #Post#: 70267--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The right lane 
       By: Amara Date: September 21, 2021, 1:22 pm
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       This is one of those daily things that i have never given a
       moment's thought to. And never would.
       #Post#: 70271--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The right lane 
       By: nuku Date: September 21, 2021, 2:22 pm
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       I regularly drive somewhere with left lanes like that, with the
       middle lane being straight or left.Way more annoying, but
       understandable with the layout of the streets. (During busy
       times it keeps people from having to merge to the right after
       they've changed lanes, & there's a path to a major artery not
       far down the street.)
       As much as I dislike wanting to go straight & having to wait
       behind someone making a turn, I understand why that lane makes
       sense in terms of traffic flow.
       #Post#: 70273--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The right lane 
       By: honeybee42 Date: September 21, 2021, 3:30 pm
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       I'll disagree with the notion that if the lane is marked
       "straight or right turn" that one should move over to the
       "straight only" lane if continuing straight at that
       intersection.  If they meant it to be "right turn only", then it
       would have been marked that way.  Is it annoying to have to wait
       behind those driving straight at a red light when turning right?
       Yes, but we're talking a few seconds in the light cycle, with
       no guarantee that it would be safe to have made the
       right-on-red.  It'll also make things more dangerous on the
       other side of the intersection when people going straight start
       to spread back to two lanes once the light turns green.
       #Post#: 70274--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The right lane 
       By: holly firestorm Date: September 21, 2021, 3:33 pm
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       [quote author=DCGirl link=topic=2164.msg70262#msg70262
       date=1632239715]
       One of the things people have brought up is that a driver may
       need to be in the right lane on the other side of the
       intersection because they have a right turn coming up quickly
       and may not be able to get over to the right lane easily if they
       need to.  Others have pointed out that, even though you can turn
       right on a red light, it doesn't mean that you'll be able to
       turn right on red based on traffic conditions.
       The OP did come back and say, "Maybe I should have just thanked
       the people who stay in the center lane to go straight, huh?"
       [/quote]
       I have a similar intersection with traffic light near me. There
       are right turns soon after the intersection and the center lane
       becomes left turn only a block after the light. Not only that,
       but there's a small strip mall to the immediate right of the
       right lane. Coming out of there and getting into either the
       center or left lane is problematic. I know, I've had to do it a
       few times.
       Also, if both the right and center lanes allow you to drive
       straight and there are already 3 or 4 cars in the center lane
       and no cars in the right lane, it's understandable for the next
       person driving up to the intersection to pick the lane that is
       empty instead of getting behind a bunch of cars.
       #Post#: 70281--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The right lane 
       By: Isisnin Date: September 21, 2021, 4:44 pm
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       As other posters have pointed out, anyone in that right hand
       land must be there for a reason. Anyone going straight for a
       period of time or feet or meters will take the empty center lane
       so they could go straight as soon as able.
       There is an intersection like that right near me that I take
       frequently. I have to take that tight to get home (or do a loop
       for a couple miles at least). It's never occurred to me that
       people in the right lane who are going straight shouldn't be
       there. Although I don't recall ever seeing that center-go
       straight lane empty either.
       If that center lane in the guy post is empty a lot, maybe the
       intersection should be redesigned.
       #Post#: 70285--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The right lane 
       By: STiG Date: September 21, 2021, 8:24 pm
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       I have a few intersections like that in my regular travels.  If
       the straight through lane is really backed up?  I'm staying in
       the right lane.  I'm not about to risk having to sit through
       another light.  A couple of these used to be right turn only,
       because the lane didn't continue after the intersection.  So the
       folks who remember that, tend to stay in the centre lane.
       #Post#: 70291--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The right lane 
       By: oogyda Date: September 22, 2021, 6:42 am
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       I've decided to change my answer.  It IS a big deal, dammit.  My
       life would just be so much better if everyone on the road would
       drive in a manner that makes my journey as fast and trouble free
       as possible.
       #Post#: 70299--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The right lane 
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: September 22, 2021, 10:08 am
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       I find some driver's to be impatient, annoying, and sometimes
       aggressive. I'm not a slow driver, but I tend to cruise at the
       speed limit (or slightly above.) I avoid the left lane, so that
       people can pass me if they desire and to avoid the tailgaters.
       ::)  I would not change lanes into the straight lane only to
       change back. In some occasions, those impatient drivers would
       pass me on the right if I didn't get over fast enough for their
       tastes. It seems much more risky for the driving community at
       whole if people are constantly switching lanes rather than
       having a few drivers need to wait a few seconds to make their
       turn.
       There's one intersection near me that I (and many others) make a
       right turn at. I don't like to make that turn on red, because it
       is hard to see oncoming traffic. (There's a dip in the road that
       is better described as a hill and often the grass will grow high
       enough to block the view.) Rather than deal with the wrath of
       the impatient drivers, I will sometimes not indicate that I am
       turning until the light turns green. I just don't want the
       honking and swearing at me when I'm trying to be safe.  ::)
       #Post#: 70304--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The right lane 
       By: Hmmm Date: September 22, 2021, 11:20 am
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       [quote author=DaDancingPsych link=topic=2164.msg70299#msg70299
       date=1632323326]
       I find some driver's to be impatient, annoying, and sometimes
       aggressive. I'm not a slow driver, but I tend to cruise at the
       speed limit (or slightly above.) I avoid the left lane, so that
       people can pass me if they desire and to avoid the tailgaters.
       ::)  I would not change lanes into the straight lane only to
       change back. In some occasions, those impatient drivers would
       pass me on the right if I didn't get over fast enough for their
       tastes. It seems much more risky for the driving community at
       whole if people are constantly switching lanes rather than
       having a few drivers need to wait a few seconds to make their
       turn.
       There's one intersection near me that I (and many others) make a
       right turn at. I don't like to make that turn on red, because it
       is hard to see oncoming traffic. (There's a dip in the road that
       is better described as a hill and often the grass will grow high
       enough to block the view.) Rather than deal with the wrath of
       the impatient drivers, I will sometimes not indicate that I am
       turning until the light turns green. I just don't want the
       honking and swearing at me when I'm trying to be safe.  ::)
       [/quote]
       Near me, there is an intersection that has a left turn lane, a
       middle lane and a right lane that goes straight and for turning.
       During evening rush hour, about 60-70% of the drivers going
       southbound are going to turn right. One person stopping in that
       lane will back up a significant amount of traffic causing many
       to sit through 2 or 3 cycles. There is a significant left turn
       cycle from the other direction so it is easy to safely turn
       right on red. So it's not a matter of a few seconds. During the
       rest of the day, the traffic is pretty split so it doesn't make
       since to turn the right hand lane into a right turn only.
       #Post#: 70314--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The right lane 
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: September 22, 2021, 6:49 pm
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       [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=2164.msg70304#msg70304
       date=1632327654]
       [quote author=DaDancingPsych link=topic=2164.msg70299#msg70299
       date=1632323326]
       I find some driver's to be impatient, annoying, and sometimes
       aggressive. I'm not a slow driver, but I tend to cruise at the
       speed limit (or slightly above.) I avoid the left lane, so that
       people can pass me if they desire and to avoid the tailgaters.
       ::)  I would not change lanes into the straight lane only to
       change back. In some occasions, those impatient drivers would
       pass me on the right if I didn't get over fast enough for their
       tastes. It seems much more risky for the driving community at
       whole if people are constantly switching lanes rather than
       having a few drivers need to wait a few seconds to make their
       turn.
       There's one intersection near me that I (and many others) make a
       right turn at. I don't like to make that turn on red, because it
       is hard to see oncoming traffic. (There's a dip in the road that
       is better described as a hill and often the grass will grow high
       enough to block the view.) Rather than deal with the wrath of
       the impatient drivers, I will sometimes not indicate that I am
       turning until the light turns green. I just don't want the
       honking and swearing at me when I'm trying to be safe.  ::)
       [/quote]
       Near me, there is an intersection that has a left turn lane, a
       middle lane and a right lane that goes straight and for turning.
       During evening rush hour, about 60-70% of the drivers going
       southbound are going to turn right. One person stopping in that
       lane will back up a significant amount of traffic causing many
       to sit through 2 or 3 cycles. There is a significant left turn
       cycle from the other direction so it is easy to safely turn
       right on red. So it's not a matter of a few seconds. During the
       rest of the day, the traffic is pretty split so it doesn't make
       since to turn the right hand lane into a right turn only.
       [/quote]
       I can understand where someone continuing straight might be
       annoying or even creating a large back-up in that situation. My
       decision would still be based on what traffic is like on the
       other side of the light. If it's typically easy to get back into
       the right lane, then I will certainly keep the right lane prior
       to the light to those who are needing to turn right. If it's a
       situation where I will have to deal with impatient drivers with
       both options, then I would probably consider other routes.
       That's not always possible either, but I do try to be
       considerate.
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