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       #Post#: 69524--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First class or coach?
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: August 23, 2021, 6:28 pm
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       Traveling with others sometimes requires compromise. You might
       not always get to eat at your choice of restaurant as others'
       tastes and opinions need to be taken into consideration. But
       traveling with others also requires giving others the space they
       need to be comfortable, especially when it's not really
       effecting you.
       The update has me thinking that Missy might have a habit of
       looking down on those who make choices that she deems "cheap". I
       wonder if this might be clouding feelings about her decision. I
       would give her the benefit of the doubt on this one... if she's
       truly a snob, they will all know by the end of the trip.
       #Post#: 69535--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First class or coach?
       By: Aleko Date: August 24, 2021, 4:28 am
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       A joint trip - even if only two people are going, never mind a
       group - is always an exercise in negotiating the participants'
       different requirements. Some people will happily rough it in
       hostels and under canvas but insist on classy dinners. For some,
       what they most want from a hotel is a pool plus spa; for others,
       it's 'character' and a room with a view. Some people want
       spontaneity, others want a timetabled plan. Some people will
       consider the trip wasted if they don't see ALL the sights;
       others mainly want to laze on the beach. If Missy's requirement
       on the journey is first-class comfort, for whatever reason -
       more leg-room, better food, it doesn't matter - I really don't
       see why she shouldn't have it if she's willing to pay extra for
       it. (Just as, if she has special requirements in a hotel room -
       a bigger bed, better wi-fi, whatever - she would be perfectly
       entitled to pay extra for a premium room.)
       It's not as though the flight time is normally a social period;
       even if the group is seated together, most people normally
       either occupy themselves with a book, their electronic devices
       or the in-flight movie, or just sleep. So she's not
       cold-shouldering the rest of the group in any meaningful sense.
       And, unlike most of the requirements I mentioned above, it
       doesn't impinge on anyone else.
       #Post#: 69537--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First class or coach?
       By: bopper Date: August 24, 2021, 8:33 am
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       Good questions that are being brought up:
       1) Yes it is okay to buy a more expensive entree...as long as
       you don't make everyone pay for it.
       Will you then want to go to more expensive restaurants? Will you
       want to go where everyone else is?
       2) Will you want to do more expensive activities?  Would you pay
       for others?
       3_ Will you want to go to more expensive shopping?
       4) Will you want to stay in your own room and not share with the
       others?
       5) How much do you want to do what they want and how much on
       your own?
       If it is just the plane ride that is one thing...but often this
       desire for "better" permeates life.
       #Post#: 69804--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First class or coach?  Update #23
       By: oogyda Date: September 2, 2021, 4:35 pm
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       I have been following Missy's facebook posts about her trip.  I
       don't necessarily look at all 70+ pictures per day, but enough
       to keep up.
       FWIW, she was not the only one flying first class....at least
       one other did.  I don't know if her DH didn't know or what.
       Missy is enjoying the experience of island hopping and being in
       a foreign country with knowledgeable guides.
       Her DH relayed that she's NOT HAPPY with the accommodations,
       though.  The "private boat" is a catamaran owned by the sis and
       her DH.  It "barely" sleeps six (2 to a room) and they all share
       a (very small) bathroom.  And a continental breakfast and salad
       and fruit trays for lunch is "not worth the $240 they paid for
       food!"  They eat dinner ashore on their own dime.
       It sounds like she's making the best of it and her posts don't
       hint at any displeasure.
       #Post#: 69807--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First class or coach?  Update #23
       By: Isisnin Date: September 2, 2021, 7:58 pm
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       Thanks for the update.
       Glad Missy's posts indicate that she's enjoying the trip.
       As to the "insider information", it's inevitable that on the
       trip with a group of traveler's some things will be not to your
       taste. Just something to make the best of.
       I've always thought those sleeper catamarans looked cool and
       fun. Never looked them up until now though They certainly are
       cozy.
       As to the breakfasts and lunches, I had some really good
       continental breakfasts when I was in Europe. A surprising amount
       of delicious cold meats, cheeses, and hard boiled eggs. I really
       need some protein to keep me going. Whether or not they're
       paying a lot of money for what they are getting depends on what
       they're getting and exactly how many meals (e.g. 2 meals a day
       for 5 days, 7 or 10). At this point though, all this is go along
       to get along and just enjoy!
       #Post#: 69823--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First class or coach?  Update #23
       By: oogyda Date: September 3, 2021, 12:04 pm
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       The $240 was for 6 days of breakfast, lunch, snacks and some
       beverages.  Since they made port many times, I'm sure the ladies
       purchased some of their own to have while on board.
       I think it's quite a reasonable price when you consider they
       paid nothing for the use of the boat and it's captain.  I'm
       pretty sure a charter of equal caliber would be substantially
       more.
       According to Missy's DH, she watches the Real Housewives of
       EveryCity and was expecting/had delusions of something the lines
       of the excess and luxury of the trips on those shows.
       #Post#: 69826--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First class or coach?  Update #23
       By: Rose Red Date: September 3, 2021, 12:53 pm
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       [quote author=oogyda link=topic=2146.msg69804#msg69804
       date=1630618532]
       Her DH relayed that she's NOT HAPPY with the accommodations,
       though.  The "private boat" is a catamaran owned by the sis and
       her DH.  It "barely" sleeps six (2 to a room) and they all share
       a (very small) bathroom.  And a continental breakfast and salad
       and fruit trays for lunch is "not worth the $240 they paid for
       food!"  They eat dinner ashore on their own dime.
       It sounds like she's making the best of it and her posts don't
       hint at any displeasure.
       [/quote]
       [quote author=oogyda link=topic=2146.msg69823#msg69823
       date=1630688645]
       According to Missy's DH, she watches the Real Housewives of
       EveryCity and was expecting/had delusions of something the lines
       of the excess and luxury of the trips on those shows.
       [/quote]
       Maybe I'm missing something, but I am not impressed with Missy's
       DH gossiping like that about her. Missy herself didn't post any
       "hints of displeasure" publicly.
       #Post#: 69828--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First class or coach?  Update #23
       By: Isisnin Date: September 3, 2021, 1:25 pm
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       Yeah, $240 for 6 days is fine - especially since the boat and
       captain is free. I should be so lucky! And I've never seen
       Housewives so I'd consider it all luxury!
       Missy's husband has been talking to one of his buddies, oogyda's
       DH. That's normal, non-gossipy.
       Maybe what started the conversation is that Missy's DH is not a
       fan of Housewives and so exclaimed to oogyda's DH happiness at a
       week being home without hearing it!?
       #Post#: 69829--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First class or coach?  Update #23
       By: oogyda Date: September 3, 2021, 1:32 pm
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       [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=2146.msg69826#msg69826
       date=1630691608]
       [quote author=oogyda link=topic=2146.msg69804#msg69804
       date=1630618532]
       Her DH relayed that she's NOT HAPPY with the accommodations,
       though.  The "private boat" is a catamaran owned by the sis and
       her DH.  It "barely" sleeps six (2 to a room) and they all share
       a (very small) bathroom.  And a continental breakfast and salad
       and fruit trays for lunch is "not worth the $240 they paid for
       food!"  They eat dinner ashore on their own dime.
       It sounds like she's making the best of it and her posts don't
       hint at any displeasure.
       [/quote]
       [quote author=oogyda link=topic=2146.msg69823#msg69823
       date=1630688645]
       According to Missy's DH, she watches the Real Housewives of
       EveryCity and was expecting/had delusions of something the lines
       of the excess and luxury of the trips on those shows.
       [/quote]
       Maybe I'm missing something, but I am not impressed with Missy's
       DH gossiping like that about her. Missy herself didn't post any
       "hints of displeasure" publicly.
       [/quote]
       Admittedly, there may be some malice in his comments.  Deserved
       or not, I can't say.  She has a long history of overspending and
       "just had to" make several purchases related to this trip.
       Beyond the "splurge" on the first class tickets.  So, yeah....he
       might be enjoying that it's not all as wonderful as she wanted
       and sharing that with his friend.....whose wife happens to be
       there working with them.
       According to him, they've come close to splitting up over her
       spending (this was before we've known them).  What I've observed
       myself is her hiding purchases in the trunk of the car to bring
       into the house when he's gone.
       #Post#: 69830--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First class or coach?  Update #23
       By: Rose Red Date: September 3, 2021, 2:07 pm
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       I wondered if I might have missed something. I missed the detail
       that he's venting to just one person.
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