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       #Post#: 69457--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guest list debacle
       By: NFPwife Date: August 20, 2021, 3:42 pm
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       I love the IPO designation. It's a shame people either a. don't
       understand that or b. decide that their circumstances are unique
       enough that etiquette rules don't apply to them.
       Given your updates, I'd definitely make clear to Jane that her
       daughter was not invited and I'd bounce the out of towner you
       don't know. The one you sort of know is a bit different.
       I was telling my husband about this and he said, "I'd let
       everyone come to this one and then would only invite these
       people to parties at the McDonald's Play Land. Hope they like
       orange drink." Like you husband he wouldn't want to set
       boundaries around the guest list, but it would impact if they
       were invited to anything ever again. Except of course at McD's.
       #Post#: 69488--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guest list debacle
       By: katiekat2009 Date: August 22, 2021, 3:16 pm
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       I'm interested in an update when you decide what you are going
       to do. Personally, I would cancel (blame Covid) and reschedule
       later with just the guests I wanted to attend.
       #Post#: 69489--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guest list debacle
       By: Gellchom Date: August 22, 2021, 4:47 pm
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       [quote author=katiekat2009 link=topic=2143.msg69488#msg69488
       date=1629663386]
       I'm interested in an update when you decide what you are going
       to do. Personally, I would cancel (blame Covid) and reschedule
       later with just the guests I wanted to attend.
       [/quote]
       You know, that's a really good idea.
       #Post#: 69493--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guest list debacle
       By: gramma dishes Date: August 22, 2021, 8:05 pm
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       [quote author=katiekat2009 link=topic=2143.msg69488#msg69488
       date=1629663386]
       I'm interested in an update when you decide what you are going
       to do. Personally, I would cancel (blame Covid) and reschedule
       later with just the guests I wanted to attend.
       [/quote]
       Yes, currently there is a serious resurgence of Covid with the
       Delta variant and that would give you yet another excuse for
       putting it off again.  Then when you issue the new invitations,
       you could make VERY clear right up front that they are personal
       and not general and seats are limited to those actually invited.
       #Post#: 69497--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guest list debacle
       By: NFPwife Date: August 22, 2021, 9:12 pm
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       [quote author=gramma dishes link=topic=2143.msg69493#msg69493
       date=1629680759]
       [quote author=katiekat2009 link=topic=2143.msg69488#msg69488
       date=1629663386]
       I'm interested in an update when you decide what you are going
       to do. Personally, I would cancel (blame Covid) and reschedule
       later with just the guests I wanted to attend.
       [/quote]
       Yes, currently there is a serious resurgence of Covid with the
       Delta variant and that would give you yet another excuse for
       putting it off again.  Then when you issue the new invitations,
       you could make VERY clear right up front that they are personal
       and not general and seats are limited to those actually invited.
       [/quote]
       If the restaurant will let you re-schedule without penalty,
       that's a good out. Then, you can re-schedule with a very clear
       delineation on guests. (Or call my DH and he'll coordinate with
       your local McDonald's.)
       #Post#: 69718--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guest list debacle
       By: JeanFromBNA Date: August 31, 2021, 2:33 pm
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       Dinner went fine. Dave and Jane ended up coming without anyone.
       Charles brought Pam, who we had met before. He goes out with her
       occasionally. She was pleasant.
       Dave gave my husband a $75 gift certificate to Starbucks. DH has
       never liked coffee. Write a TYN or call it even?
       #Post#: 69719--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guest list debacle
       By: Gellchom Date: August 31, 2021, 3:22 pm
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       That’s a pretty generous gift.  A little surprising if he knows
       he doesn’t like coffee, but Starbucks sells a lot of other
       things, too.
       If he opened the gift in Dave’s presence and thanked him then,
       he can get away without a note, but a note, email, or a text
       would still be nice.  His dislike of coffee is irrelevant.
       I’m glad the party worked out fine.
       Happy birthday!
       #Post#: 69720--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guest list debacle
       By: NFPwife Date: August 31, 2021, 3:23 pm
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       [quote author=JeanFromBNA link=topic=2143.msg69718#msg69718
       date=1630438431]
       Dinner went fine. Dave and Jane ended up coming without anyone.
       Charles brought Pam, who we had met before. He goes out with her
       occasionally. She was pleasant.
       Dave gave my husband a $75 gift certificate to Starbucks. DH has
       never liked coffee. Write a TYN or call it even?
       [/quote]
       That's a good update. I wonder if Dave and Jane thought better
       of it? Or if their plus ones thought better of it?
       To the gift card, write the thank you note. Starbucks has other
       things besides coffee, he might be pleasantly surprised if he
       drops in for a look.
       #Post#: 69721--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guest list debacle
       By: Rose Red Date: August 31, 2021, 3:26 pm
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       [quote author=JeanFromBNA link=topic=2143.msg69718#msg69718
       date=1630438431]
       Dinner went fine. Dave and Jane ended up coming without anyone.
       Charles brought Pam, who we had met before. He goes out with her
       occasionally. She was pleasant.
       Dave gave my husband a $75 gift certificate to Starbucks. DH has
       never liked coffee. Write a TYN or call it even?
       [/quote]
       DH should send a thank you note. It's still a gift even if it's
       not something you want. And $75 is a generous gift.
       Starbucks has other drinks and food/baked goods other than
       coffee. They have mugs and tumblers. He can buy a bag of coffee
       as a gift for someone else.
       I'm puzzled by what you mean when you said "call it even." Dave
       was invited and he didn't bring an extra guest.
       #Post#: 70692--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Guest list debacle
       By: TootsNYC Date: October 7, 2021, 10:07 am
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       I might call these people and say, "I'm sorry, I think it wasn't
       clear about this event. We were a little dismayed to hear you
       want to bring someone. That actually creates a problem--we
       didn't intend to make it a party for everyone; it was supposed
       to be a small dinner for people who actually know DH from his
       martial art.  it's $200 a plate." And wait to see what they say.
       They might back down. If they don't, then you can say, "Given
       how expensive it is, you can understand why we're going to ask
       you to come alone."
       Or maybe ask them? "I don't know if you realize, this is a
       $200-a-plate dinner, and I had wanted it to be for people my
       husband worked closely with. Do you think we could get together
       with your daughter another time?"
       All these people are rude.
       There are tactics one could discuss to try to head this off.
       It's frustrating that anyone would need to.
       For a meal this expensive/formal, it would be better perhaps to
       use the "formal wedding reception" format. But we all know what
       a perfect track record that has.
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