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       #Post#: 69185--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Disciplining Other People's Dogs
   DIR By: BeagleMommy
       Date: August 12, 2021, 12:40 pm
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       Undisciplined dogs are the same as spoiled children.  They will
       not learn if the owner/parent is not consistent.  Since dogs are
       pack animals by nature they view everyone who enters the house
       as a new member of the pack and want to greet them as such.
       It is up to the owner to train the dog not to jump, but if a
       guest gently pushes the dog away and says "down" I see no
       problem with that.
       I think it would be best for you to visit these people on
       neutral territory where dogs are not permitted.
       #Post#: 69190--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Disciplining Other People's Dogs
   DIR By: Hmmm
       Date: August 12, 2021, 12:57 pm
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       I've really only had to deal with this a few times with people I
       visited frequently. I just do a sharp "Down". I've never been
       out right chastised by the owner but I have had them show they
       weren't thrilled with me but they would then call their dogs to
       them. At future visits they were more active in controlling the
       behavior.
       If the dogs are invading my space while sitting, I think it is
       fine to ask the owner to call the dogs to them. If your
       unwillingness to be harrassed by the dogs makes them mad, then
       they can choose to not invite you again.
       #Post#: 69191--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Disciplining Other People's Dogs
   DIR By: Jem
       Date: August 12, 2021, 1:13 pm
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       --- Quote from: BeagleMommy link ---
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       > I think it would be best for you to visit these people on
       neutral territory where dogs are not permitted.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I agree. Another thing that makes me crazy is outdoor patios
       that allow dogs and owners who do not control their pets.
       Especially when eating I don't personally want animals near me.
       Also, when going out as a group and someone brings a dog so that
       the only available seating would be on a patio so the entire
       party has to wait when everyone else would prefer to sit
       indoors.
       #Post#: 69192--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Disciplining Other People's Dogs
   DIR By: Mrs Rat
       Date: August 12, 2021, 1:36 pm
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       Dad had a beautiful German shepherd who was trained to ignore
       other dogs on walks & could be walked without a leash. She would
       go on ahead & if someone was coming towards you she would come
       back to your side. She also would wait at a corner, she wouldn't
       cross until you did. Beautifully trained, except when someone
       would come to the house.
       Mum was a dress maker working from home so when clients would
       come to the door they would be greeted by a snarling, barking
       beast being held back by dad saying "don't worry, she won't
       bite" - doesn't look like that to the stranger! I don't know why
       he wouldn't put her in another room, or out the back before
       opening the door. Actually I'm sure if he had of told her to sit
       she would have. It bugged me to no end!
       #Post#: 69194--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Disciplining Other People's Dogs
   DIR By: gramma dishes
       Date: August 12, 2021, 1:43 pm
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       Maybe your Dad didn't try to discourage her because he thought
       it was wise to give your Mom's  clients the idea that your Mom
       was not there alone and/or the house was protected!   It may
       have been intended as a ... ahem ... reminder that Mom was well
       guarded.
       #Post#: 69197--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Disciplining Other People's Dogs
   DIR By: mime
       Date: August 12, 2021, 5:33 pm
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       --- Quote from: Xainte link ---
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       >
       > I scolded a relative's dog recently for jumping on me and got
       told not to yell at the dog because it's their house not mine.
       I didn't yell but I was admittedly pretty sharp.
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       > My response to the relative was that they shouldn't be jumping
       on people whether it's their house or not.  Needless to say it
       was a little chilly after that.
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This is the problem here: sure it's their house, but it's YOUR
       body that dog is jumping on! That would be like my kids
       insisting on sitting on visitors' laps and eating off their
       plates, while I just defend their actions by stating "it's their
       house."
       I completely agree with another poster's suggestion to raise
       your knee to block the jump. I've done exactly that with my own
       relative's horribly behaved dog and it works wonders.
       Sadly we also cut back on how much we see that relative because
       they refuse to control the dog... And I refuse to let my kids
       get hurt by it :(
       #Post#: 69207--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Disciplining Other People's Dogs
   DIR By: holly firestorm
       Date: August 12, 2021, 9:21 pm
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       --- Quote from: Jem link ---
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       > [quote author=BeagleMommy link=topic=2137.msg69185#msg69185
       date=1628790004]
       > I think it would be best for you to visit these people on
       neutral territory where dogs are not permitted.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I agree. Another thing that makes me crazy is outdoor patios
       that allow dogs and owners who do not control their pets.
       Especially when eating I don't personally want animals near me.
       Also, when going out as a group and someone brings a dog so that
       the only available seating would be on a patio so the entire
       party has to wait when everyone else would prefer to sit
       indoors.
       [/quote]
       I don't know where you live. But, I can tell you that US laws do
       not allow non-service dogs in restaurants. When it comes to
       patios, I'm not 100% sure. But, if your pooch pampering pal is
       invited to go out to dinner with you and the majority of the
       party would prefer to dine inside, unless the pooch is an SD
       (and that does NOT include 'Emotional Support Animals'), the
       rest of you need to tell her you won't tolerate it anymore and
       she needs to leave pampered poochie at home.
       #Post#: 69215--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Disciplining Other People's Dogs
   DIR By: NewHomeowner
       Date: August 13, 2021, 7:16 am
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       --- Quote from: iolaus link ---
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       > In all honesty I wouldn't visit and would meet at neutral
       ground
       >
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       Exactly.  I have a friend who LOVES her dogs, but simply doesn't
       understand the idea of training them.  They just pack them away
       in a bedroom when they have a party, otherwise the dogs would
       get too wild.
       However, this is the kind of person who would not react nicely
       if I told her that her dogs could be trained to not jump.  So I
       simply never visit her at her house.  I won't tell her why, but
       I'll never go.
       #Post#: 69218--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Disciplining Other People's Dogs
   DIR By: vintagegal
       Date: August 13, 2021, 8:32 am
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       You can also (gently) step on the dog's back toes when his front
       paws are up on you. Not recommended for very little, fragile
       dogs. Also if a dog is playfully biting you, press down on their
       tongue with your fingers. They don't like that.
       #Post#: 69221--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Disciplining Other People's Dogs
   DIR By: oogyda
       Date: August 13, 2021, 9:14 am
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       There is a saying that goes:
       You teach people how to treat you by what you allow, what you
       say no to and what you reinforce.
       The same goes for dogs.
       It's not really disciplining the dog, it's training in the
       moment.
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