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       Re: Rude, Theft, or Money Saver
       By: HenrysMom Date: August 10, 2021, 8:36 pm
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       Years ago, I had a friend who worked at Mervyn’s (store sorta
       like Kohl’s), and got a decent employee discount.  One day, we
       went shopping there and, she asked me to return a black leotard
       for her while she went upstairs to look for something.  I went
       to that department, made the transaction, and looked her up and
       gave her the money.  We were heading down the main aisle to
       leave the store when a manager comes up to us and starts
       berating me for returning a worn leotard.  She said something
       along the lines of “(Friend’s name), as an employee, you should
       know better.”  I spoke up and told her that I was not (Friend)
       and I only returned the item at Friend’s request.  It became
       quite the kerfuffle - I think Friend got fired, and I learned
       not to return things for other people.
       #Post#: 69116--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rude, Theft, or Money Saver
       By: holly firestorm Date: August 10, 2021, 8:56 pm
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       [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=2134.msg69111#msg69111
       date=1628644888]
       I've returned clothes after I realized it was uncomfortable or
       turned out to be too sheer, but that feels different than
       purposely buying expensive outfits to wear once and return.
       Reminds me of people buying a giant TV for the Superbowl knowing
       they'll return it right after. Some retailers won't take it back
       or charge a restocking fee since they're wise to those tactics.
       [/quote]
       I've occasionally gotten very brave and bought shoes via catalog
       or on line. I wear them around the house for a few hours, for
       several days, and have returned the ones that have been
       uncomfortable...but, not if I've worn them out.
       #Post#: 69118--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rude, Theft, or Money Saver
       By: Aleko Date: August 11, 2021, 2:04 am
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       This is a really old scam. Back in the 1960s I read a British YA
       novel in which the heroine’s life was made miserable by a mean
       girl in her school. Said mean girl always wore smart new dresses
       at parties and dances, and embarrassed the heroine by
       insincerely and loudly complimenting her dress by saying ‘how
       lucky you are to have a mother who sews’, conveying clearly to
       the bystanders ‘Heroine’s family are paupers who can’t afford to
       buy her a party dress, unlike mine!’ But Heroine knows that Mean
       Girl’s mother routinely mail-orders party dresses for her
       daughter, and sends them back after she has worn them. The
       message was clear that (a) this family weren’t as well off as
       Mean Girl pretended, and (b) that both mother and daughter were
       dishonest trash.
       And back then hire of women’s occasionwear simply wasn’t a
       thing, unlike now. Now there’s really no excuse for not honestly
       renting an outfit if you think you’ll only wear it once.
       [quote]It's too bad they can't design a tag that once heated up
       to normal body temperature waits about an hour and then begins
       flashing a bright red beam of light and starts making a beeping
       sound that gets progressively louder and louder!  Maybe the
       light could project the word "stolen" on a nearby surface!  And
       if the wearer tries to cut the tag off, a siren shrieks.[/quote]
       Actually something like this is probably quite practicable
       today. We’re always hearing about smart fabrics that can react
       to changes in temperature and adjust their structure to make
       themselves more warming or cooling to keep the wearer
       comfortable. You could certainly have a fabric that would change
       its colour, so that with some nifty weaving as it came up to
       body temperature it would come up in blotches (Wine stains?
       Sweat patches? Blood on the back of the skirt?  ;D ;) ;D) or
       even show messages such as ‘NOTPAIDFOR’, which could only be
       deactivated by the seller.
       #Post#: 69132--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rude, Theft, or Money Saver
       By: Bada Date: August 11, 2021, 10:04 am
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       [quote author=honeybee42 link=topic=2134.msg69075#msg69075
       date=1628616944]
       I used to work at a maternity store, and we often had some
       really nice "special occasion" style dresses, particularly
       around holidays, especially Christmas.  We took to Swiftach the
       price tag square in the middle of the chest of the dress, so
       that it couldn't be "tucked in".
       I agree that it is dishonest to "purchase" a garment expressly
       for the purpose of wearing it to an event and returning it
       afterwards.  It might not be quite as bad as shoplifting, but
       the same spirit of dishonesty is present.  It's different if
       something happens and you end up not going/wearing the item and
       want to return it.
       [/quote]
       I've seen stores attach the tag under the arm right at the waist
       of the dress. There's nowhere to tuck it in.  I think it's
       fabulous. People shouldn't buy goods they intend to wear and
       return.
       #Post#: 69153--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rude, Theft, or Money Saver
       By: AnnNottingham Date: August 11, 2021, 9:28 pm
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       Completely wrong.  Don't go in stores way out of your budget in
       the first place.
       My daughter found a fabulous prom dress at Goodwill. Sure, you
       have to look carefully, but it was a $10 dress that once was
       much more.
       #Post#: 69155--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rude, Theft, or Money Saver
       By: honeybee42 Date: August 11, 2021, 9:50 pm
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       [quote author=guihong link=topic=2134.msg69153#msg69153
       date=1628735314]
       Completely wrong.  Don't go in stores way out of your budget in
       the first place.
       My daughter found a fabulous prom dress at Goodwill. Sure, you
       have to look carefully, but it was a $10 dress that once was
       much more.
       [/quote]
       Likewise, my daughter and I went shopping right *after* prom
       season for subsequent year dresses.  Got dresses for $30 on deep
       discount.  She then donated them (after a final photo session by
       my mom) to a local charity that gives dresses away to low-income
       girls.
       #Post#: 69165--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rude, Theft, or Money Saver
       By: STiG Date: August 12, 2021, 7:32 am
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       [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=2134.msg69111#msg69111
       date=1628644888]
       I've returned clothes after I realized it was uncomfortable or
       turned out to be too sheer, but that feels different than
       purposely buying expensive outfits to wear once and return.
       Reminds me of people buying a giant TV for the Superbowl knowing
       they'll return it right after. Some retailers won't take it back
       or charge a restocking fee since they're wise to those tactics.
       [/quote]
       I was taking a pair of shoes back - they didn't fit my Dad, who
       is housebound.  They had a bit of cat/dog hair on them but had
       only worn them in the house for a little bit.  When the clerk
       was processing my return, another clerk came up with a pair of
       shoes, asking if they knew who had processed the return.  Those
       shoes had clearly been worn outside; there were tiny bits of
       gravel stuck to the treads.
       I think it is theft to buy something, wear it once and return
       it.  I also think it is rude to the staff who process returns.
       They are in a tough position - refuse the return, piss off the
       'customer'; process the return, piss off the manager and
       potential be reprimanded, suspended or fired.  Or they have to
       do the sniff test which is just ewwwww.
       #Post#: 69180--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rude, Theft, or Money Saver
       By: Winterlight Date: August 12, 2021, 10:59 am
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       [quote author=guihong link=topic=2134.msg69153#msg69153
       date=1628735314]
       Completely wrong.  Don't go in stores way out of your budget in
       the first place.
       My daughter found a fabulous prom dress at Goodwill. Sure, you
       have to look carefully, but it was a $10 dress that once was
       much more.
       [/quote]
       I needed a cocktail dress several years ago. I found a lovely
       one at a high-end consignment store for $30, along with an
       evening purse for $5.
       #Post#: 69198--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rude, Theft, or Money Saver
       By: mime Date: August 12, 2021, 5:39 pm
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       When I worked retail many many years ago, that was considered
       theft.
       #Post#: 69205--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rude, Theft, or Money Saver
       By: holly firestorm Date: August 12, 2021, 9:07 pm
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       [quote author=STiG link=topic=2134.msg69165#msg69165
       date=1628771535]
       [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=2134.msg69111#msg69111
       date=1628644888]
       I've returned clothes after I realized it was uncomfortable or
       turned out to be too sheer, but that feels different than
       purposely buying expensive outfits to wear once and return.
       Reminds me of people buying a giant TV for the Superbowl knowing
       they'll return it right after. Some retailers won't take it back
       or charge a restocking fee since they're wise to those tactics.
       [/quote]
       I was taking a pair of shoes back - they didn't fit my Dad, who
       is housebound.  They had a bit of cat/dog hair on them but had
       only worn them in the house for a little bit.  When the clerk
       was processing my return, another clerk came up with a pair of
       shoes, asking if they knew who had processed the return.  Those
       shoes had clearly been worn outside; there were tiny bits of
       gravel stuck to the treads.
       I think it is theft to buy something, wear it once and return
       it.  I also think it is rude to the staff who process returns.
       They are in a tough position - refuse the return, **** off the
       'customer'; process the return, **** off the manager and
       potential be reprimanded, suspended or fired.  Or they have to
       do the sniff test which is just ewwwww.
       [/quote]
       There are plenty "sticky situations" sales staff experience.
       They are supposed to be able to defer this type of question to
       their manager. It can be done perfectly tactfully: "Our return
       policy requires an approval by a manager." If a customer says,
       "That wasn't your policy last month!" the answer could simply
       be, "We just got the new directive two weeks ago." or something
       like that.
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