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       #Post#: 71742--------------------------------------------------
       Re: “Formal” wedding - UPDATE at #17
       By: Gellchom Date: November 16, 2021, 11:38 am
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       I'm back from both weddings!  They were both lovely.
       Wedding 1: I had worn my black party dress to the groom's
       sister's wedding, and my red one was voted down as too
       va-va-voom b my daughter and husband, so wore a fun black dress
       I borrowed from my daughter.  That worked out fine, although I
       was very cold during the outdoor ceremony, even with a fairly
       warm wrap.
       The second wedding was pretty much how we all pictured it.
       Everyone had to drive for hours from the nearest cities and
       airports, and the only accommodations at the venue were tents
       and communal bathrooms, and not many of those, so the rest of us
       had to stay at places at least 20 minutes away and drive back
       and forth for the three events.  The place is gorgeous; I can
       see why they liked it.  But it was not very comfortable or
       convenient.  The welcome party was at the lower level, but
       everything was outdoors on uneven ground, and there weren't many
       tables or anyone to clear away used dishes.  And it was cold!
       The female guests were all sharing a little laugh because we'd
       all had the same problem figuring out what to wear for the
       wedding itself -- cocktail attire suitable for hiking -- and
       everyone had brought a few choices.  In the end, most everyone,
       including me, chucked the cocktail idea and wore warm clothes
       and boots.  I wore black slacks and sweater with a really nice
       scarf ad the blingiest accessories I had.  It didn't matter
       anyway, as we all had to keep our coats on for the welcome drink
       and the ceremony and the "parade" down the hill to the reception
       tent (luckily there was a shuttle we could take, as my brother
       has been having bad problems with his leg).  The tent for dinner
       and dancing had no floor except the dance floor, but it did have
       very good heating, so we could take our coats off.
       I still don't think that this was a great choice of venue, and
       it was very expensive and inconvenient for the guests, but we
       all had a terrific time anyway once we got settled in.  The
       bride and groom are so great, it makes it easy to overlook the
       downsides.
       By the way, a note on how they handled the "COVID do-over"
       issue.  They didn't call it a wedding, a renewal, a blessing, or
       anything else.  They didn't call it anything at all!  They did
       have a ceremony.  The officiant hit exactly the right note
       between seriousness and lightheartedness in light of the
       circumstances.  I believe she said, "Do you still take each
       other ..." or something like that, perhaps with a bit of "now
       that you know what you're getting into" vibe.  She nailed it.
       The bride did wear her wedding dress.  It didn't seem odd at
       all, except I kept thinking she must be freezing in that dress
       she bought for a June wedding.
       Oh, and I filled out the waiver form by initialing the
       outrageous passages "N.O." instead of my real initials.  No one
       said anything.
       Thank you all for thinking this through with me.  Brimstoners
       are the best.
       #Post#: 71744--------------------------------------------------
       Re: “Formal” wedding - UPDATE at #17
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: November 16, 2021, 1:28 pm
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       I am so glad to hear that the weddings went well. It's always
       nice to know that all of the commotion was worth it!
       [quote]Oh, and I filled out the waiver form by initialing the
       outrageous passages "N.O." instead of my real initials.  No one
       said anything.[/quote]
       This might be off-topic, but gellchom (or anyone practicing law
       willing to answer), how would this work out? If I initial
       passages that I don't agree with with "N.O." rather than my
       initials and something happens that I want to sue over something
       that would have been protected by that clause, does that mean
       that I still could? (I am curious if this is a solution that I
       could use myself when I'm asked to sign away my rights.)
       #Post#: 71751--------------------------------------------------
       Re: “Formal” wedding - UPDATE at #17
       By: Gellchom Date: November 16, 2021, 3:18 pm
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       [quote author=DaDancingPsych link=topic=2113.msg71744#msg71744
       date=1637090917]
       I am so glad to hear that the weddings went well. It's always
       nice to know that all of the commotion was worth it!
       [quote]Oh, and I filled out the waiver form by initialing the
       outrageous passages "N.O." instead of my real initials.  No one
       said anything.[/quote]
       This might be off-topic, but gellchom (or anyone practicing law
       willing to answer), how would this work out? If I initial
       passages that I don't agree with with "N.O." rather than my
       initials and something happens that I want to sue over something
       that would have been protected by that clause, does that mean
       that I still could? (I am curious if this is a solution that I
       could use myself when I'm asked to sign away my rights.)
       [/quote]
       We are not supposed to give legal advice here, but as a general
       matter I’d think that leaving some boxes unchecked, crossed out,
       or with “no” or “I don’t agree to this” in them should work, or
       at least help.  There are other arguments, too, including that
       it was a contract of adhesion (no choice, not bargained for) and
       there was no consideration.
       #Post#: 71755--------------------------------------------------
       Re: “Formal” wedding - UPDATE at #17
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: November 17, 2021, 4:21 am
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       [quote author=gellchom link=topic=2113.msg71751#msg71751
       date=1637097508]
       [quote author=DaDancingPsych link=topic=2113.msg71744#msg71744
       date=1637090917]
       I am so glad to hear that the weddings went well. It's always
       nice to know that all of the commotion was worth it!
       [quote]Oh, and I filled out the waiver form by initialing the
       outrageous passages "N.O." instead of my real initials.  No one
       said anything.[/quote]
       This might be off-topic, but gellchom (or anyone practicing law
       willing to answer), how would this work out? If I initial
       passages that I don't agree with with "N.O." rather than my
       initials and something happens that I want to sue over something
       that would have been protected by that clause, does that mean
       that I still could? (I am curious if this is a solution that I
       could use myself when I'm asked to sign away my rights.)
       [/quote]
       We are not supposed to give legal advice here, but as a general
       matter I’d think that leaving some boxes unchecked, crossed out,
       or with “no” or “I don’t agree to this” in them should work, or
       at least help.  There are other arguments, too, including that
       it was a contract of adhesion (no choice, not bargained for) and
       there was no consideration.
       [/quote]
       Thank you and sorry! I really appreciate the information (more
       on an interesting tidbit and not that I am seeking actual legal
       advice.) And sorry... it didn't dawn on me that I requested
       legal advice (see above). I knew that this was a big rule on the
       old forum and should have realized that it carried over. I'm
       going into time-out.
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