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       #Post#: 68129--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Inlaws dictating wardrobe on family holiday
       By: STiG Date: July 12, 2021, 8:46 pm
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       If I'm on vacation, I'm wearing whatever the hell I feel like.
       I am a menopausal woman with near constant hot flashes.  There
       is no way I'm wearing more clothes than I have to, to remain
       'decent' in the eyes of most people.  You don't like the way I
       look?  Don't look at me.
       Now, if there is a full family dinner with everyone, I would
       agree to dress modestly but not necessarily as modestly at the
       in-law's in-laws want me to.  I'd cover my shoulders and my
       knees but not necessarily my elbows and my ankles, for example.
       #Post#: 68130--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Inlaws dictating wardrobe on family holiday
       By: Rho Date: July 12, 2021, 9:11 pm
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       Does husband need to only wear long pants to be modest also?  Do
       In-Laws wear special clothes to socialize with the other
       in-laws?
       FWIW my DIL dresses modestly  unto covering her hair in public.
       When on her turf or my own I wear skirts in solidarity but my
       summer tops are above my elbows and my hair is uncovered.  DH
       wears shorts and T's.  Not even the pre school grandchildren are
       concerned.
       #Post#: 68137--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Inlaws dictating wardrobe on family holiday
       By: Aleko Date: July 13, 2021, 3:34 am
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       It’s one thing to dress conformably to the beliefs and wishes of
       the people you (generic you) are actually holidaying with, given
       that they are obliged to interact with you, and to be seen in
       public with you. If that’s their bottom line, consistent and
       clearly stated beforehand, you either accept it, or if you don’t
       find the requirement acceptable you just don’t go on holiday
       with them.
       But you don’t owe a shred of compliance to people who simply
       decide to turn up at the same resort at the same time and demand
       you conform with their dress requirements. If they want to join
       you on holiday uninvited, they must take you as they find you.
       (If LW’s parents-in-law have in fact invited them, or at least
       encouraged them to come, that’s their headache: LW and her DH
       clearly did not.) My feeling is that LW would only be obligated
       to dress according to these people’s code on any occasion when
       they invite the whole party and pay for the outing, meal,
       whatever it was, because in that specific situation they would
       be the hosts. But if they’re all going to the beach or on a boat
       trip, if they don’t like what she wears they don’t have to sit
       near her and her DH.
       #Post#: 68149--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Inlaws dictating wardrobe on family holiday
       By: BeagleMommy Date: July 13, 2021, 9:09 am
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       The people who invited themselves to this resort need to either
       keep their eyes averted or stay home.
       You don't get to shove your religious beliefs on a group of
       people who do not practice your religion.
       I would say to the MIL "sorry, I am going to dress how I
       normally would".
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       Re: Inlaws dictating wardrobe on family holiday
       By: Jayhawk Date: July 13, 2021, 12:52 pm
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       Either ignore and doe what you were planning on or answer along
       the lines of "No thank you."
       #Post#: 68207--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Inlaws dictating wardrobe on family holiday
       By: peony Date: July 14, 2021, 2:36 pm
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       [quote author=BeagleMommy link=topic=2107.msg68149#msg68149
       date=1626185345]
       The people who invited themselves to this resort need to either
       keep their eyes averted or stay home.
       You don't get to shove your religious beliefs on a group of
       people who do not practice your religion.
       I would say to the MIL "sorry, I am going to dress how I
       normally would".
       [/quote]
       I generally dress modestly out of personal preference, but being
       dictated to on my own vacation would make me want to go shopping
       for clothing that is much less modest than what I have in my
       everyday wardrobe, lol.
       #Post#: 68211--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Inlaws dictating wardrobe on family holiday
       By: STiG Date: July 14, 2021, 3:16 pm
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       Go and purchase an itsy bitsy teeny weeny yellow polka dot
       bikini, perhaps?  ;D
       Edited to add two words and to say: I'm glad some of you got the
       reference!  :)
       #Post#: 68232--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Inlaws dictating wardrobe on family holiday
       By: Aleko Date: July 15, 2021, 1:56 am
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       [quote]generally dress modestly out of personal preference, but
       being dictated to on my own vacation would make me want to go
       shopping for clothing that is much less modest than what I have
       in my everyday wardrobe, lol.[/quote]
       Yes, and not only that: if I were in LW’s place, it would
       make me feel a great deal less willing to put on special
       coverall clothing to visit these people ever. I’d
       seriously consider telling DH he could just visit them without
       me.
       That said, we don’t know from the letter - and LW may not
       actually know either - whether SIL’s ultra-religious
       in-laws are actually dictating what everyone who comes into
       their presence may wear, or if SIL and her mother are just
       walking on eggshells around them and issuing these diktats in
       case they might be offended. (I imagine we’ve all
       experienced this syndrome in our own lives where people have
       been running round saying, for example, ‘Shhh, please
       don’t mention [such-and-such] to Gran, you’ll shock
       her’ when in fact Gran doesn’t give a hoot.) It
       could even be that in fact the in-laws’ in-laws have never
       expected LW to dress specially for them, and always having seen
       her in ‘modest’ clothing, have no idea that this
       isn’t what she would normally wear.
       #Post#: 68255--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Inlaws dictating wardrobe on family holiday
       By: TootsNYC Date: July 15, 2021, 3:58 pm
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       Modest dress is supposed to be about what YOU do, not about what
       other people do.
       You dress modestly because of your own beliefs, and the messages
       YOU wish to send.
       This would be the end. I would never dress particularly one way
       or the other for them ever again.
       I wouldn't go out of my way to choose clothing to shock them;
       I'd just wear what I want.
       One thing I wonder: Has the BIL's parents ever asked people to
       dress any specific way?
       #Post#: 68258--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Inlaws dictating wardrobe on family holiday
       By: Jem Date: July 15, 2021, 4:26 pm
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       [quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=2107.msg68255#msg68255
       date=1626382721]
       One thing I wonder: Has the BIL's parents ever asked people to
       dress any specific way?
       [/quote]
       Oooohhhh, this makes me think I would insist on MY* preferred
       dress code! Daisy dukes and tube tops for the ladies and mesh
       tanks tops and jorts for the men FOR DINNER!!!!! For swimming
       everyone wears a thong. No exceptions. It is offensive to me
       that people would cover up their skin.
       *Not really! Just for shock value purposes.
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