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       #Post#: 67085--------------------------------------------------
       I'm done
       By: Rain Date: June 5, 2021, 8:35 pm
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       Hubby is enmeshed  with his deceased 1st wife's parents.
       I'm not up to going into details, but he really messed up
       recently at my mom's funeral.
       What would be a good way to tell him he either gets counciling
       inorder to become emotionally health or...?
       #Post#: 67088--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I'm done
       By: Nikko-chan Date: June 5, 2021, 8:45 pm
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       Sit him down. "What you did at my mothers funeral was
       unacceptable." If he plays dumb, "[Succinct explanation of
       exactly what he did]" "You are quite close with first wifes
       parents [gives examples of situations] and you need counseling.
       If you won't get counseling [consequence here]" (whether that
       consequence is you take a break to reevaluate or you get a
       divorce, what have you.)  You also might want to explain if
       applicable that you dont feel valued and you havent for awhile
       etc.
       #Post#: 67102--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I'm done
       By: jpcher Date: June 6, 2021, 9:10 am
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       I agree that a sit-down is in order. When (not IF) this happens
       be strong and do not skirt the issues.
       I know you said you didn't want to go into details but is this a
       first/second time occurrence or has the issue been a long time
       suffering for you?
       If it's a one-off then state your feelings in a kind way.
       If it's a long time suffering then bring up the ultimatum and
       make sure that you're strong enough to enforce your stance and
       stand by the decision. Do not let him flounder and offer
       insincere apologies. Follow up with his choice of going to
       counseling or your choice of filing for divorce.
       Many years ago my LDH decided to stay home and have the
       traditional Tgiving dinner with his family instead of going to
       my grandfather's memorial service (4-hour drive away, spend the
       night with my family). It hurt. It hurt me big. He knew that I
       was close to my grandfather and I did not understand why he
       couldn't be there for me.
       When I came home he was all over apologetic. I believed him to
       be sincere. We talked about his reasons for not attending and I
       explained how much his support meant to me. I told him that I
       thought he was selfish. In the end he agreed. Things were better
       from there on.
       Just a story about how things can be worked out. Not knowing
       your background, I'm hoping that a good conversation could
       possibly turn into a happy ending.
       If not? Be strong. I'm on your side.
       #Post#: 67109--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I'm done
       By: Rain Date: June 6, 2021, 1:23 pm
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       Been a long time, things were better....
       My hard line is that he get counseling to become emotionally and
       mentally healthy....
       #Post#: 67116--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I'm done
       By: Rain Date: June 6, 2021, 8:45 pm
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       He said that they didn't tell him
       #Post#: 67128--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I'm done
       By: Jem Date: June 7, 2021, 7:57 am
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       Without a better understanding of what happened it is somewhat
       difficult to advise, but I agree with the previous posters. It
       isn't necessarily bad or strange for your husband to still be in
       contact with his deceased wife's parents, especially if they
       have children, but from the little information you have provided
       I get the sense this is a different situation?
       I don't think it would be fair for you to demand that he have no
       contact with his former inlaws (unless there is something I am
       missing) but it sounds like there is more to the story. I agree
       that it makes sense to have a face to face planned sit down with
       your husband to talk through the issues.
       If it were me, I would ask your husband to set aside some time
       without distractions and set some ground rules. I would write
       out at least bullet points of what I want to express and the
       rules would be that I get to say what I want to say without
       interruption, and then my husband gets to say what he wants to
       say without interruption.
       I think it is important, if the goal is a smooth relationship
       going forward, to not attack or ambush your husband. I suspect
       that he does not grasp that his relationship with his former
       inlaws is hurting you to the extent that it is. The goal of the
       sitdown would be mutual understanding, not a "win" for either of
       you.
       #Post#: 67129--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I'm done
       By: Hmmm Date: June 7, 2021, 8:07 am
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       [quote author=Rain link=topic=2067.msg67109#msg67109
       date=1623003824]
       Been a long time, things were better....
       My hard line is that he get counseling to become emotionally and
       mentally healthy....
       [/quote]
       I agree with others that it is hard to give any advice. Having a
       relationship with his ex inlaws does not indicate being
       emotionally or mentally unhealthy. If he was young when that
       relationship started, he could see them as another set of
       parents. To me, an unhealthy relationship with ex inlaws would
       be similar to an adult allowing them to control his actions.
       Does he have other relationships or behaviors that you'd
       consider mentally unhealthy?
       I know I would not be happy with my spouse coming to me and
       demanding counseling because of one set of relationships. I'd be
       ok with him bringing it to my attention that he was unhappy with
       my relationship and why he was unhappy. And then give me a
       chance to change. But telling me I'm emotionally unhealthy would
       put my defenses up and I'd be shooting back that he was he who
       needed counseling if he was insecure about the relationship.
       #Post#: 67133--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I'm done
       By: Luci Date: June 7, 2021, 8:46 am
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       How hurtful! I have no answer. Hugs and prayers.
       #Post#: 67136--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I'm done
       By: gramma dishes Date: June 7, 2021, 8:56 am
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       [quote author=Rain link=topic=2067.msg67116#msg67116
       date=1623030312]
       He said that they didn't tell him
       [/quote]
       I'm so sorry, Rain.   I have read and reread your posts and I
       certainly understand that you are hurting and I'm sorry about
       whatever is going on between the two of you.   But there is no
       information I can latch onto to help me understand what's really
       going on.
       "He said they didn't tell him."  Who is they and what did they
       not tell him?
       #Post#: 67143--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I'm done
       By: Rose Red Date: June 7, 2021, 9:23 am
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       [quote author=gramma dishes link=topic=2067.msg67136#msg67136
       date=1623074212]
       [quote author=Rain link=topic=2067.msg67116#msg67116
       date=1623030312]
       He said that they didn't tell him
       [/quote]
       I'm so sorry, Rain.   I have read and reread your posts and I
       certainly understand that you are hurting and I'm sorry about
       whatever is going on between the two of you.   But there is no
       information I can latch onto to help me understand what's really
       going on.
       "He said they didn't tell him."  Who is they and what did they
       not tell him?
       [/quote]
       I was thinking the same thing. I don't understand this entire
       situation because it's too vague.
       What are you trying to achieve as the end goal?
       Are you willing to leave if he doesn't meet your requirements?
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