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       #Post#: 66699--------------------------------------------------
       Why though? Cat edition
       By: betty Date: May 20, 2021, 11:19 am
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       Jumping on to the "pets doing their business in other people's
       yards" train.
       Why do people think it's ok to let their cats roam outside? I
       live in a small town, semi-rural. We have coyotes and foxes and
       eagles and busy roads (all of which can kill cats) and lots of
       smaller birds (which can be killed by cats).
       I garden. I regularly have to clean cat poop out of my garden
       beds. Cat poop can carry dangerous diseases, especially for
       pregnant women and immune-compromised people. I don't want it in
       the gardens I grow food in (or the flower beds I weed by hand).
       Anyone have great suggestions for preventing cats from going in
       my gardens? Or great suggestions for convincing cat owners to
       keep their cats indoors, for the safety of the cats and others?
       #Post#: 66701--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why though? Cat edition
       By: NFPwife Date: May 20, 2021, 12:12 pm
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       My husband has been doing battle with the neighborhood cats.
       Full disclosure-he's armed with only things that can't do them
       harm and are relatively inexpensive.
       Here's what we've done - where they like to poop we started with
       coffee grounds and citrus peels (every time we ate an orange, we
       threw it in the food processor and chopped it up and then
       sprinkled). Those were nominally effective, they'd avoid those
       spots and then shift to somewhere else. Next, we got poultry
       netting. About five 24 inch by 10 feet rolls and put them around
       the all the edges of the front of the house and their main
       access point to our backyard. Initially, you could see it pretty
       well, but then the grass grew up nicely as we progressed into
       spring and you can't see it at all. They know it's there and
       they're pi$$ed at DH. They literally glare at him when they see
       him. He looked out the window yesterday and one gave him a
       scowl. He scowled back and they commenced a staring/ scowling
       contest that had me doubled over laughing.
       (I've heard you can use human hair and I was ready to empty all
       my brushes but DH's family is Eastern European and that is,
       apparently, not to be done.)
       #Post#: 66710--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why though? Cat edition
       By: XRogue Date: May 20, 2021, 4:23 pm
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       [quote author=PVZFan link=topic=2061.msg66701#msg66701
       date=1621530747]
       My husband has been doing battle with the neighborhood cats.
       Full disclosure-he's armed with only things that can't do them
       harm and are relatively inexpensive.
       Here's what we've done - where they like to poop we started with
       coffee grounds and citrus peels (every time we ate an orange, we
       threw it in the food processor and chopped it up and then
       sprinkled). Those were nominally effective, they'd avoid those
       spots and then shift to somewhere else. Next, we got poultry
       netting. About five 24 inch by 10 feet rolls and put them around
       the all the edges of the front of the house and their main
       access point to our backyard. Initially, you could see it pretty
       well, but then the grass grew up nicely as we progressed into
       spring and you can't see it at all. They know it's there and
       they're pi$$ed at DH. They literally glare at him when they see
       him. He looked out the window yesterday and one gave him a
       scowl. He scowled back and they commenced a staring/ scowling
       contest that had me doubled over laughing.
       (I've heard you can use human hair and I was ready to empty all
       my brushes but DH's family is Eastern European and that is,
       apparently, not to be done.)
       [/quote]
       Cats hate mint, so would a mint border or strategically placed
       clumps be an option?
       #Post#: 66931--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why though? Cat edition
       By: Kimberami Date: June 1, 2021, 12:44 pm
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  HTML https://inspiringplans.com/how-to-keep-cats-from-pooping-in-your-garden-flower-beds-and-yard/
       This seems like a very good article on discouraging cats.
       I have heard that burying plastic forks with the tines facing
       upwards will work, but I've never tried it. I used to use frames
       made with chicken wire over rows of veggies, but I only had a
       very small garden.
       #Post#: 66936--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why though? Cat edition
       By: NFPwife Date: June 1, 2021, 3:10 pm
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       I love the plastic forks idea! Thanks!
       DH is also doing battle with a robin who wants to build on the
       downspout above our door. It started a nest, he took it down
       (nothing in it and it was just a few random scraps). He put up a
       pool noodle. The bird took the pool noodle. (There's no way it
       blew away, it was in the wooded area behind our house where they
       hang out in the trees.) DH put the noodle back up. It came down,
       but this time it might have blown down. We figured nest building
       time was over so left the noodle down. The bird started a nest
       the next morning. DH took that down and put the pool noodle back
       up. The bird was really aggressive with him this time- flying at
       DH's head while he pulled the materials. The bird sat on the
       wire across from our door and squawked at DH every time he was
       out. If the birds and cats start working together, DH is in
       trouble.
       #Post#: 66939--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why though? Cat edition
       By: betty Date: June 1, 2021, 6:37 pm
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       [quote]DH is also doing battle with a robin who wants to build
       on the downspout above our door.[/quote]
       We had robins nesting on top of our meter box, attached to the
       back of the house. After the nest was empty, we took it down and
       went to work preventing nesting in future years. After some
       false starts, I finally made a board with 30 nails poking
       through so the whole top of the meter box is covered in pointy
       spikes. So far, so good. I like the birds but not on top of the
       meter box!
       Back to cats. I just cleaned more cat poop from the garden. That
       garden bed is surrounded by lemon balm, a type of mint, so that
       didn't work. I read recently that coffee grounds might
       discourage cats so I'll be trying that.
       #Post#: 66953--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why though? Cat edition
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: June 2, 2021, 10:01 am
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       [quote author=PVZFan link=topic=2061.msg66936#msg66936
       date=1622578231]
       I love the plastic forks idea! Thanks!
       DH is also doing battle with a robin who wants to build on the
       downspout above our door. It started a nest, he took it down
       (nothing in it and it was just a few random scraps). He put up a
       pool noodle. The bird took the pool noodle. (There's no way it
       blew away, it was in the wooded area behind our house where they
       hang out in the trees.) DH put the noodle back up. It came down,
       but this time it might have blown down. We figured nest building
       time was over so left the noodle down. The bird started a nest
       the next morning. DH took that down and put the pool noodle back
       up. The bird was really aggressive with him this time- flying at
       DH's head while he pulled the materials. The bird sat on the
       wire across from our door and squawked at DH every time he was
       out. If the birds and cats start working together, DH is in
       trouble.
       [/quote]
       This is how I started my pandemic... fighting a robin wanting to
       nest on top of an outdoor light fixture. Had I not been home all
       the time, she probably would have succeeded. I live in a
       townhouse and I think she settled for another house's light
       fixture. During this battle, she appeared to be building
       multiple nests on different homes??? Maybe she was confused as
       to which one she choose??? Either way, I wish I had thought of a
       pool noodle!
       No cat stories from me today. But I enjoy reading!
       #Post#: 66974--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why though? Cat edition
       By: pierrotlunaire0 Date: June 2, 2021, 9:53 pm
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       [quote author=XRogue link=topic=2061.msg66710#msg66710
       date=1621545828]
       Cats hate mint, so would a mint border or strategically placed
       clumps be an option?
       [/quote]
       I doubt that would work based on a previous cat. Mr. Baxter once
       found a mint growing wild along the edge of the yard. It took
       him 30 seconds to gleefully eat the whole thing. After that, we
       would catch him checking that area out to see if it had come
       back. We always figured that since catnip was a member of the
       mint family, it was close enough to catnip for him to enjoy it.
       Plus, Mr. Baxter loved to eat grass. It was like living with a
       cow that could purr.
       #Post#: 66986--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why though? Cat edition
       By: Kimberami Date: June 3, 2021, 8:09 am
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       You could grow them a patch of catnip in another part of garden.
       They won't care about the veggies and flowers then :D
       #Post#: 67010--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why though? Cat edition
       By: XRogue Date: June 3, 2021, 3:51 pm
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       [quote author=pierrotlunaire0 link=topic=2061.msg66974#msg66974
       date=1622688820]
       [quote author=XRogue link=topic=2061.msg66710#msg66710
       date=1621545828]
       Cats hate mint, so would a mint border or strategically placed
       clumps be an option?
       [/quote]
       I doubt that would work based on a previous cat. Mr. Baxter once
       found a mint growing wild along the edge of the yard. It took
       him 30 seconds to gleefully eat the whole thing. After that, we
       would catch him checking that area out to see if it had come
       back. We always figured that since catnip was a member of the
       mint family, it was close enough to catnip for him to enjoy it.
       Plus, Mr. Baxter loved to eat grass. It was like living with a
       cow that could purr.
       [/quote]
       Dangit well I was hoping. Every cat I ever knew hated mint. (I
       do NOT endorse my dad's suggestion of a bb gun)
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