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       Re: How do you respond to this? 
   DIR By: Hanna
       Date: May 10, 2021, 8:49 am
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       Oogyda, that is such a great thing to think about, in any
       bothersome situation.
       I’ll think about it more.
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       Re: How do you respond to this? 
   DIR By: DaDancingPsych
       Date: May 10, 2021, 9:39 am
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       I would stop hiding my feelings. If this was a one off thing, I
       would hide my disappointment and assume that my friend was
       excited about the gathering and simply made an error with
       sharing. The reality is that we can't always invite everyone to
       everything, so sometimes I won't make the guest list. But this
       happens somewhat consistently, so I would take one of the
       suggestions expressed. "When I'm not invited to your gatherings,
       it hurts my feelings to hear you talk about them." "You know I
       was not invited, so why would you tell me about it?" If this
       person has the capability to think outside of her bubble, she
       will apologize and try to do better in the future.
       But there is certainly a possibility that nothing will change
       her behavior. I think that you should decide how do you want to
       handle that going forward. If this is someone who I want (or
       need) to keep in my life in some form, then I would probably
       "bean dip" and change the conversation. I am not going to talk
       about things that hurt my feelings. But someone who doesn't seem
       to care about my feelings is a person that I am less interested
       in being close with. I would probably distance myself.
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       Re: How do you respond to this? 
   DIR By: Hanna
       Date: May 10, 2021, 10:24 am
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       --- Quote from: LifeOnPluto link ---
       >
       > OP, does your friend invite most (or all) of your mutual
       friends, and exclude you? Or is it just one or two, or a few
       mutual friends that she's inviting over? If it's the former,
       that's definitely rude and hurtful, but if it's the latter, I
       personally don't think it's a huge issue, especially if you have
       many mutual friends in common.
       >
       > If it is the former, then I totally feel for you. The last
       time I encountered this behaviour was in high school. On one
       occasion it was because the hostess-friend liked to create
       drama. On another occasion (with a different, and closer
       hostess-friend), I think it was because she actually felt
       slightly guilty about not inviting me to her sleepover (she'd
       invited three other mutual friends, and to this day, I'm not
       sure she didn't invite me), and I suspect she figured I'm find
       out about it anyway, and didn't want to lie by omission. Or
       something like that.
       >
       > As for what to say in response, how about: "Sounds like fun.
       If you're doing something similar in future, I'd definitely be
       up for it, if there's room for one more." (I know it's generally
       considered rude to invite yourself to things, but IMO, your
       friend has opened the door in this case by talking about her
       events so openly).
       >
       > If you want to be confrontational, how about: "I'm a bit
       surprised you invited all / most of our mutual friends to your
       party, but not me. Is there a reason why? Is everything ok
       between us?"
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It’s often just another few people. Sometimes just one. I don’t
       think she’s rude to invite whomever she likes. Just rude to
       constantly talk about it. None of it would bother me much except
       that her frequency of talking about these things makes me feel
       like she is doing it on purpose to hurt me and make me feel left
       out.
       Once she invited everyone in a room except me and DH to a
       concert. There were 8 people included, just us left out.
       She could have invited them when we were not in earshot, instead
       she made a big announcement.
       I don’t really want to be invited. I just want her to shut up
       about it.
       It would really upset her if I treated her similarly.
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       Re: How do you respond to this? 
   DIR By: oogyda
       Date: May 10, 2021, 11:25 am
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       --- Quote from: Hanna link ---
       >
       >
       >
       > It’s often just another few people. Sometimes just one. I
       don’t think she’s rude to invite whomever she likes. Just rude
       to constantly talk about it. None of it would bother me much
       except that her frequency of talking about these things makes me
       feel like she is doing it on purpose to hurt me and make me feel
       left out.
       >
       > Once she invited everyone in a room except me and DH to a
       concert. There were 8 people included, just us left out.
       > She could have invited them when we were not in earshot,
       instead she made a big announcement.
       >
       > I don’t really want to be invited. I just want her to shut up
       about it.
       >
       > It would really upset her if I treated her similarly.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       At some point, you could ask her why she does this *because*
       this is how it makes you feel.
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       Re: How do you respond to this? 
   DIR By: Rose Red
       Date: May 10, 2021, 12:13 pm
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       Talk about gatherings that she wasn't invited to. When she
       complains how it's rude to talk, tell her you thought it was ok
       to talk since she does the same thing.
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       Re: How do you respond to this? 
   DIR By: Hanna
       Date: May 10, 2021, 1:47 pm
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       I know it might sound a bit paranoid to say I think she's doing
       this to make me feel bad, but there are reasons I think this.
       For instance, I once went horseback riding* with Isabel and it
       came up that we had done this. She said "I want to go horseback
       riding with Isabel!" and now she frequently mentions going
       horseback riding with Isabel.
       Even funnier because some things subsequently came to light
       about Isabel, and I really don't want to do things with her now
       one-on-one.
       Also, did I mention she likes to pooh-pooh activities that other
       people enjoy?  So my fantasy response is "Oh, I have no
       desire!!!"  Maybe that would shut her up a bit.
       (It was something much more mundane!)
       Why can't I just say what I am thinking?  "Look, I really like
       you but it feels like hell to have you constantly telling me
       about things you do with others when you never bother to include
       me anymore. If you don't like me enough to invite me along, why
       are we still calling one another friend?"
       #Post#: 66341--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How do you respond to this? 
   DIR By: lowspark
       Date: May 10, 2021, 2:22 pm
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       Does she ever invite you? Do you ever invite her to things?
       Her behavior is quite rude. I would want to examine what I get
       out of the friendship. You said you know she does this to others
       as well. She seems to be part of your social group but that
       doesn't mean you have to be friends outside that group. I would
       probably just quit responding to one-on-one communication with
       her and certainly wouldn't initiate it.
       --- Quote from: Hanna link ---
       >
       > ... why are we still calling one another friend?"
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think the question here is more, why are you still calling her
       friend?
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       Re: How do you respond to this? 
   DIR By: gramma dishes
       Date: May 10, 2021, 2:57 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hanna link ---
       >
       >
       >
       > It’s often just another few people. Sometimes just one. I
       don’t think she’s rude to invite whomever she likes. Just rude
       to constantly talk about it. None of it would bother me much
       except that her frequency of talking about these things makes me
       feel like she is doing it on purpose to hurt me and make me feel
       left out.
       >
       > Once she invited everyone in a room except me and DH to a
       concert. There were 8 people included, just us left out.
       > She could have invited them when we were not in earshot,
       instead she made a big announcement.
       >
       > I don’t really want to be invited. I just want her to shut up
       about it.
       >
       > It would really upset her if I treated her similarly.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm sorry but your "friend" was just plain rude to do that.   In
       fact, if I had been one of the other eight people she did invite
       in front of you, I would have been so embarrassed I'd have
       probably declined unless I truly thought she had invited you
       already and you had had to turn her down.   It sounds like she
       is doing this quite intentionally, deliberately making you feel
       left out.   To be honest, she doesn't sound like much of a
       friend.   :-\
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       Re: How do you respond to this? 
   DIR By: TootsNYC
       Date: May 10, 2021, 4:04 pm
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       > Sounds like fun. If you're doing something similar in future,
       I'd definitely be up for it, if there's room for one more." (I
       know it's generally considered rude to invite yourself to
       things, but IMO, your friend has opened the door in this case by
       talking about her events so openly).
       --- End Quote ---
       This isn't really inviting yourself to something. It has to be
       specific, to qualify for that.
       Talking about a get-together with a single mutual friend isn't
       automatically rude, because of course people can just get
       together with one person, and it might be interesting.
       Going on and on about it? That's not nice. Doing it often?
       Not nice. Dwelling on how they saw the other friend, as opposed
       to talking about the outing itself as a point of interest? Rude.
       I don't say this to indicate in any way that I discount your
       impression--if you think it's kind of pointed, then I think it
       is.
       And I think you could say your paragraph. But I personally might
       try to focus on other people somehow.
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       Re: How do you respond to this? 
   DIR By: Hanna
       Date: May 10, 2021, 4:48 pm
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       This is so helpful.
       Why am I still calling her friend?  I had to think about that.
       There are positive experiences in our friendship bucket. There
       have been some periods of ups and downs. The past year has been
       tough on us all so I’m dwelling on this more than usual.
       I also always thought it must be my imagination or my own fault
       or that I was being too sensitive. I like her enough that I
       couldn’t imagine she might be wrong about much of anything.
       Only recently learned that she was doing this to someone else to
       the point that they stopped speaking to her for a long time and
       now keep her at arm’s length.
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