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       #Post#: 66591--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DD#1 and BFsam's wedding planning
       By: STiG Date: May 17, 2021, 8:15 pm
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       That is a gorgeous outfit.  I'd need a different colour but I
       could totally see me wearing something like that.  My Mom would
       have loved it, too.
       When my brother got married, my mom wore a beautiful dress,
       suitable to her age.  The bride's Mom?  Yeaaah...  Bright
       purple, form fitting in a very unattractive way and totally not
       suitable, IMO.  There was a second reception later and she wore
       something more similar to what my Mom wore and looked much more
       attractive.  I commented on how lovely she looked and she told
       me she was disappointed because she'd gained a bit of weight and
       couldn't fit into the outfit she'd worn to the wedding.
       #Post#: 66630--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DD#1 and BFsam's wedding planning
       By: jpcher Date: May 18, 2021, 3:57 pm
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       [quote author=Aleko link=topic=2024.msg66517#msg66517
       date=1621072766]
       I’ve always thought the notion of the bride’s and groom’s
       mothers having to wear coordinated outfits is absolutely
       deplorable.
       [/quote]
       I get that. Each of us wearing something that we are comfortable
       with that also fits the theme of the wedding is something that
       I'm looking for. FsamMom is petite while I am not. There is no
       way possible for us to coordinate/match a style that suits the
       both of us. However I'd like to try to make it so that she is
       not wearing a mini skirt and I am wearing a ball gown. Does that
       make sense?
       [quote author=QueenFaninCA link=topic=2024.msg66584#msg66584
       date=1621290688]
       I always thought that doesn't mean they need to be
       matchy-matchy. The idea is to make sure they are dressed to the
       same level of formality and that their outfits don't clash
       color-wise if they happen to stand near each other in the
       photos.
       [/quote]
       Bingo! ;D
       [quote author=Hmmm link=topic=2024.msg66585#msg66585
       date=1621291699]
  HTML https://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_three-piece-lace-and-georgette-plus-size-set-27975_pantsuits-for-mom
       [/quote]
       That is absolutely lovely and is the style that I was looking
       for. Hanna posted a similar link that is the same style that I
       really like.
       DaDancingPsych -- Loved and completely agree with your post.
       Thank you!
       [quote author=Hanna link=topic=2024.msg66518#msg66518
       date=1621078178]
       Have they chosen a venue?  Any idea about number of guests?
       Re: "My Day" Unless she's planning to let you plan the whole
       wedding, then run the show and be the hostess, this is likely
       the most complex, important socially gathering she will ever
       plan and execute.  It will be her job to ensure her guests are
       happy and have a good time.  It is wonderful, but "My Day" isn't
       a good description of it.
       [/quote]
       Yes, the venue has been chosen, a deposit has been put down for
       ~120 guests.
       Re: "My Day" -- when DD#1 and Fsam were here for Mothers
       Day/Bday weekend I got a chance to talk privately with DD#1. She
       told me that I was absolutely right. It's not "My Day" it is
       "Our Day". She said that Fsam was awesome as far as researching
       venues, looking up dates, wedding planner (he's doing a web site
       in trade for Friend doing the wedding planning/coordinating),
       setting up appointments and things. DD#1 said that there's "No
       way I could do this all without him. We are doing this together.
       And that's what I love about him."
       #Post#: 66651--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DD#1 and BFsam's wedding planning
       By: Gellchom Date: May 19, 2021, 7:13 am
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       Congratulations!!!  This will be so much fun for you all.
       Please keep us updated.  It's been so long since we could have
       weddings!
       I've been both MOB and MOG.  Here are my thoughts about shopping
       for dresses -- especially for hard to fit women like us!  Party
       dresses are the hardest if you aren't tall and thin and
       sometimes young.  I'm short and barrel chested, so it's a
       challenge for me to find long dresses especially.  They seem to
       be designed for much taller women, and alteration doesn't always
       help (it's not just length, it's proportions of decorations,
       placement of necklines, darts, pockets, lapels, etc., back seam
       so you don't look like a stegosaurus, and on and on!  So I hear
       you.  But I can also tell you that I eventually found wonderful
       gowns I loved for both weddings  (I still have both and have
       worn them several times; I told my husband we will never turn
       down a black tie invitation to anything forever while I still
       fit in those dresses).  Here are my 2 cents:
       1.  I agree with the others -  you don't want to MATCH the other
       mom, or the attendants.  But your outfit should harmonize, by
       which I mean you want to be the same level of formality as the
       other mom, and perhaps the same general length (pants go with
       any length).  I don't mean super specific, just both either day
       or evening outfits, usually cocktail length or gown (or pants,
       of the same formality level).  Same with fabrics -- like, not
       one in chiffon and sequins and one in denim.  Accessories can
       often bridge the gap, too -- like if you find a gorgeous simple
       dress in linen and the other mom is wearing an evening fabric,
       you can add party shoes and bling-y accessories to evening-up
       your dress. The other thing is color.  They definitely don't
       have to be the same color, but keep in mind that there will be
       lots of photos, so your dress color should harmonize with the
       attendants' colors, the flowers, and the other mom's.  Not
       matchy matchy, but not clashing (e.g., red polka dots or black
       and white plaid next to pastel solids and florals).
       2. Don't decide in advance what colors or styles you can or
       cannot wear.  Even if something doesn't usually work for you,
       sometimes it just does.  Keep an open mind -- searching for
       formalwear is hard enough without setting limits in advance.
       3. (This one is highly subjective -- your mileage and others'
       may certainly vary)  I don't recommend bridal shops for moms'
       dresses.  In general, I find the prices higher and the quality
       and creativity lower than regular dress shops or department
       stores.  But the biggest nuisance is that they take a super long
       time to make your dress, and once it's made and you see what it
       really looks like on you, you can't cancel the order.  I also
       find that that few of their styles work well on short women,
       even though they make them to order, so they do fit.  The
       details are just too big and the silhouettes don't look as good
       in smaller proportions.  So I would look at other stores first.
       But there are many exceptions!  My mother, who dresses very well
       and is also very short, got her dress for my son's wedding at a
       bridal/formalwear shop, and she looked and felt fantastic.  And
       I really love the pants outfit you found at David's!  And it
       looks like it's ready-to-wear, not something you have to order
       and hope it looks good when it comes in a few months.  (And wow,
       a great price.)  So if you feel gorgeous and happy in it, and it
       fits your daughter's general vision of the day, then that's the
       one!  (Plus it looks so comfortable.)
       Have fun shopping for your red-carpet-worthy outfit!  Keep us in
       the loop.
       #Post#: 66670--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DD#1 and BFsam's wedding planning
       By: jpcher Date: May 19, 2021, 3:57 pm
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       I sent DD#1 the pantsuit that was mentioned earlier. Her
       response was "I thing you're going to get lost in that outfit
       especially if you don't wear heels" (which I probably won't I
       haven't worn heels in I don't know how many years!)
       She sent me these suggestions:
  HTML https://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_sequin-capelet-sleeve-plus-size-sheath-dress-wbm2424v2w_mother-of-the-bride-dresses
  HTML https://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_plus-size-a-line-mesh-dress-with-beaded-top-wgin18806w_mother-of-the-bride-dresses
  HTML https://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_scalloped-embroidered-overlay-plus-size-dress-29129_mother-of-the-bride-dresses
  HTML https://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_bead-and-sequin-embellished-mesh-overlay-plus-gown-wgin18924w_mother-of-the-bride-dresses
       What do you think?
       I believe the only requirement is that the outfit has pockets
       for tissues. Because I KNOW that I'm going to tear up while I'm
       walking her down the isle. I even started crying when I heard
       the first few couple of notes when they played the song that
       she's (we) going to walk down the isle to . . . "I can't help
       falling in love with you" but not Elvis, a cover (I don't
       remember the artist.)
       The DDs father was a huge Elvis fan, and the fact that they
       chose that song brought back happy-time memories for me.
       Sigh. How do I block the tears???
       #Post#: 66672--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DD#1 and BFsam's wedding planning
       By: kareng57 Date: May 19, 2021, 4:20 pm
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       [quote author=jpcher link=topic=2024.msg66670#msg66670
       date=1621457825]
       I sent DD#1 the pantsuit that was mentioned earlier. Her
       response was "I thing you're going to get lost in that outfit
       especially if you don't wear heels" (which I probably won't I
       haven't worn heels in I don't know how many years!)
       She sent me these suggestions:
  HTML https://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_sequin-capelet-sleeve-plus-size-sheath-dress-wbm2424v2w_mother-of-the-bride-dresses
  HTML https://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_plus-size-a-line-mesh-dress-with-beaded-top-wgin18806w_mother-of-the-bride-dresses
  HTML https://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_scalloped-embroidered-overlay-plus-size-dress-29129_mother-of-the-bride-dresses
  HTML https://www.davidsbridal.com/Product_bead-and-sequin-embellished-mesh-overlay-plus-gown-wgin18924w_mother-of-the-bride-dresses
       What do you think?
       I believe the only requirement is that the outfit has pockets
       for tissues. Because I KNOW that I'm going to tear up while I'm
       walking her down the isle. I even started crying when I heard
       the first few couple of notes when they played the song that
       she's (we) going to walk down the isle to . . . "I can't help
       falling in love with you" but not Elvis, a cover (I don't
       remember the artist.)
       The DDs father was a huge Elvis fan, and the fact that they
       chose that song brought back happy-time memories for me.
       Sigh. How do I block the tears???
       [/quote]
       I like the first one best, but they're all very nice.
       I didn't have much of a choice when it came to DS#2's wedding.
       The bride had selected three dresses - all in grey or beige.
       They're nice colours on most people, but I'm very pale and beige
       makes me look washed-out.  I selected one dress and incidentally
       her mom also wore beige.  A friend told me I should select my
       own dress and tell her that, but you don't want married life
       starting out in a battle.  After all it was their day, not mine.
       #Post#: 66675--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DD#1 and BFsam's wedding planning
       By: TootsNYC Date: May 19, 2021, 7:19 pm
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       [quote author=QueenFaninCA link=topic=2024.msg66584#msg66584
       date=1621290688]
       [quote author=Aleko link=topic=2024.msg66517#msg66517
       date=1621072766]
       I’ve always thought the notion of the bride’s and groom’s
       mothers having to wear coordinated outfits is absolutely
       deplorable.
       [/quote]
       I always thought that doesn't mean they need to be
       matchy-matchy. The idea is to make sure they are dressed to the
       same level of formality and that their outfits don't clash
       color-wise if they happen to stand near each other in the
       photos.
       [/quote]
       What Queen said.
       They actually are NOT supposed to match exactly, and maybe not
       even match in terms of color. And yes, not clash in photos.
       And the courtesy is that the bride's mom chooses first--or at
       least is offered the opportunity, because in the past she was
       the hostess, and she was in chrge of determining exactly HOW
       formal the affair was going to be.
       And as with most of those courtesies, it came with a
       responsibility to choose and to communicate that, so that the
       poor MOG isn't standing there with a very formal outfit next to
       people who aren't as formal.
       #Post#: 66678--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DD#1 and BFsam's wedding planning
       By: STiG Date: May 19, 2021, 8:21 pm
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       When I was a bridesmaid for a friend, the three of us attendants
       ended up choosing a floor length navy blue gown, sleeveless,
       with a sheer jacket.  The bridesmaids, the bride and the MOB all
       went shopping to find the MOB a dress.  She tried on a purple
       one that we all liked but it was clear she wasn't thrilled.
       Then she tried on a navy blue one that she obviously liked but
       then she was all worried because we were in navy blue.  The
       dresses were completely different and the bride only cared that
       her Mom felt good, wearing that dress.
       Find something that you like and feel good in and run it by DD2,
       if you don't like any of her suggestions.
       #Post#: 66680--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DD#1 and BFsam's wedding planning
       By: kckgirl Date: May 19, 2021, 9:05 pm
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       I like the first dress best, followed by #3. All four are
       pretty.
       #Post#: 66682--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DD#1 and BFsam's wedding planning
       By: Rho Date: May 19, 2021, 9:48 pm
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       #1 is stunning.  You may spend more time shopping for a
       strapless bra that doesnt show front or back than the actual
       dress if you like that one.
       #Post#: 66685--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DD#1 and BFsam's wedding planning
       By: Aleko Date: May 20, 2021, 2:34 am
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       I would never normally wear anything with sequins - it’s almost
       a phobia, I always expect them to come off, and probably end up
       scratchily in my bra - but I agree with everyone that #1 is a
       cracker of a dress. I love the idea of an drapey cape that’s
       attached, so you don’t have to keep hold of it and keep
       adjusting it to keep it right. And the neckline is great:
       flattering and dignified. A woman could stand proud in that
       dress.
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