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Re: Covid Groceries (A Brimstone What Would You Do)
By: STiG Date: January 29, 2021, 11:00 am
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Albert should reimburse Tina for cost of the groceries, rounded
up to the nearest easily paid amount, though with electronic
transfer it could be exact. If she won't give him the exact
cost of the purchase, then estimate the cost and round up to the
nearest $5 or $10 that would ensure the cost is definitely
covered. So if he figures the groceries cost about $22, round
up to $25. If he thinks they are around $24, round up to $30.
Tina should not worry about dropping everything to run out and
get Albert's groceries; she should go when it is convenient for
her, within reason. She should run Albert's groceries through
separate from her own and provide a receipt for reimbursement.
It is up to Albert if he adds anything for her trouble.
I do my MIL's grocery shopping and have been since the beginning
of the pandemic. I let her know ahead of time when I plant to
go so she can write me a list. I run her groceries through
separately and give her the receipt. She reimburses me in cash
- we still see her; we consider her a member of our household
because she is alone and needs help around the house with a few
things. Usually, she rounds up to the nearest dollar.
Occasionally, I'll run her stuff through with mine, either
because she only has a couple of things or because if I spend a
certain amount in one transaction, I get bonus points that I can
use to pay for groceries later. Then I calculate what she owes
and give her the total.
#Post#: 63195--------------------------------------------------
Re: Covid Groceries (A Brimstone What Would You Do)
By: kckgirl Date: January 29, 2021, 11:35 am
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My daughter picks things up for me when she leaves work. Usually
she puts the receipt in the bag, or she just tells me how much
she paid. If she doesn't tell me, I estimate a little high, and
transfer the money thru Zelle.
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Re: Covid Groceries (A Brimstone What Would You Do)
By: Lilipons Date: January 29, 2021, 12:13 pm
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I remember the Saturday afternoon ‘reckonings’ at our kitchen
table when I was a teenager.
Aunt Jo worked in the city and would buy things there for us.
Mom would buy groceries for Aunt Jo. Aunt Jo bought $7 of
prepared food from Horn and Hardart for us. Mom bought $6 of
food from a local store for aunt Jo. Mom gave Aunt Jo $1 and
all was well. That is what happens.
Friends and family can do things for each other but, when money
is involved, these things become a business arrangement and
compensation is required among equals.
#Post#: 63205--------------------------------------------------
Re: Covid Groceries (A Brimstone What Would You Do)
By: Rose Red Date: January 29, 2021, 2:42 pm
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I agree that Albert should ask Tina how much he owes or ask for
a receipt.
Even though they are friends, their agreement is more of a
safety issue due to Covid circumstances rather than random
friendly gifts. If it's a gift, let Tina say so and thank her.
Never assume.
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Re: Covid Groceries (A Brimstone What Would You Do)
By: Soop Date: January 29, 2021, 3:38 pm
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[quote author=Lilipons link=topic=1983.msg63198#msg63198
date=1611944028]
I remember the Saturday afternoon ‘reckonings’ at our kitchen
table when I was a teenager.
Aunt Jo worked in the city and would buy things there for us.
Mom would buy groceries for Aunt Jo. Aunt Jo bought $7 of
prepared food from Horn and Hardart for us. Mom bought $6 of
food from a local store for aunt Jo. Mom gave Aunt Jo $1 and
all was well. That is what happens.
Friends and family can do things for each other but, when money
is involved, these things become a business arrangement and
compensation is required among equals.
[/quote]
My sister and her family are on my cell plan. Every month I tell
her the amount and we reconcile any other costs for anything we
have bought for each other (or on behalf of each other, eg
splitting costs of gifts to parents). We round and estimate a
lot.
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Re: Covid Groceries (A Brimstone What Would You Do)
By: sandisadie Date: January 29, 2021, 3:48 pm
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Of course the bill should be paid, immediately. And - a whole
lot of thanks with it! For almost a year my daughter has been
doing my weekly grocery shopping, and other shopping too. I
give her my credit cards and she gives them back with the
receipts. And - I always thank her. Boy is this getting old!!
I think we all want our old lives back. This a.m. I needed to
back my vehicle out of the garage so some work could be done in
there. WOW! I was driving my car! I haven't driven it since
the end of October when I went to my doctor for a routine
checkup.
#Post#: 63232--------------------------------------------------
Re: Covid Groceries (A Brimstone What Would You Do)
By: DaDancingPsych Date: January 30, 2021, 7:18 pm
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Thanks everyone! It seems that most feel that Albert should pay,
although it is mixed on how he should go about it. This actually
was a true story. Prior to dropping off the groceries, Tina had
decided that she was not concerned about the costs. However, she
was surprised that Albert never brought up the money. She's
certainly not upset, but questioned if she would have handled it
correctly if the roles were swapped (as she would have tried to
reimburse Albert or whoever did the favor.) Either way, I really
enjoyed a lot of the comments.
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Re: Covid Groceries (A Brimstone What Would You Do)
By: Aleko Date: January 31, 2021, 4:29 am
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[quote]Tina should not worry about dropping everything to run
out and get Albert's groceries; she should go when it is
convenient for her, within reason.[/quote]
This. She shouldn’t go to any unnecessary trouble (if it was a
question of getting his meds rather than groceries, dropping
everything to get them to him promptly might be necessary
trouble, and if so of course she should do it - but that’s
another scenario altogether), and should let him know that she
isn’t, but is just getting his stuff when she goes to get her
own, no sweat. That way, and if she accepts reimbursement
without any fuss, he can decently continue to ask for her help
as long as necessary. If he knows or suspects that doing his
shopping is inconvenient and an extra burden to her, and still
more if she refuses reimbursement, as a decent person he must
stop asking her.
But if he doesn’t realise that his shopping is a burden (and
some people can be astonishingly obtuse about how much trouble
other people are going to, if it happens out of their sight), or
is the kind of user who says to themself ‘Well, if she’s willing
to do it for nuppence, fine: I’ll let her’, she has set herself
up for a whole load of work, cost and resentment.
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Re: Covid Groceries (A Brimstone What Would You Do)
By: DaDancingPsych Date: January 31, 2021, 6:18 am
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[quote author=Aleko link=topic=1983.msg63233#msg63233
date=1612088950]
[quote]Tina should not worry about dropping everything to run
out and get Albert's groceries; she should go when it is
convenient for her, within reason.[/quote]
This. She shouldn’t go to any unnecessary trouble (if it was a
question of getting his meds rather than groceries, dropping
everything to get them to him promptly might be necessary
trouble, and if so of course she should do it - but that’s
another scenario altogether), and should let him know that she
isn’t, but is just getting his stuff when she goes to get her
own, no sweat. That way, and if she accepts reimbursement
without any fuss, he can decently continue to ask for her help
as long as necessary. If he knows or suspects that doing his
shopping is inconvenient and an extra burden to her, and still
more if she refuses reimbursement, as a decent person he must
stop asking her.
But if he doesn’t realise that his shopping is a burden (and
some people can be astonishingly obtuse about how much trouble
other people are going to, if it happens out of their sight), or
is the kind of user who says to themself ‘Well, if she’s willing
to do it for nuppence, fine: I’ll let her’, she has set herself
up for a whole load of work, cost and resentment.
[/quote]
In this case, she did drop everything and run out. The way that
Albert worded the request was that he did not have anything to
eat that would settle well on an upset stomach. So basically he
was asking her to pick-up dinner rather than weekly groceries.
Tina did pick-up enough things to get Albert through a few days.
Otherwise, yes, it probably would have made more sense to do
both grocery lists at once.
#Post#: 63235--------------------------------------------------
Re: Covid Groceries (A Brimstone What Would You Do)
By: kckgirl Date: January 31, 2021, 7:06 am
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[quote author=DaDancingPsych link=topic=1983.msg63232#msg63232
date=1612055886]
Thanks everyone! It seems that most feel that Albert should pay,
although it is mixed on how he should go about it. This actually
was a true story. Prior to dropping off the groceries, Tina had
decided that she was not concerned about the costs. However, she
was surprised that Albert never brought up the money. She's
certainly not upset, but questioned if she would have handled it
correctly if the roles were swapped (as she would have tried to
reimburse Albert or whoever did the favor.) Either way, I really
enjoyed a lot of the comments.
[/quote]
I am shocked that Albert didn't pay immediately or, if he had no
cash in the house, at least ask about the cost so he could
reimburse Tina when he felt better and could get out. You don't
stomp all over your friend's good graces and continue to enjoy
them.
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