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Re: I don’t celebrate any holidays- so you can’t either...
DIR By: Rose Red
Date: December 9, 2020, 1:52 pm
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My workplace have pretty cloth banners listing holidays of
different faiths. We do have a Christmas tree in the lobby, but
people can bring in symbols of their faith and culture to set up
too.
We also have Jehovah Witnesses who don't celebrate, but we
respect them and they respect us. We try not to be loud and "in
their face." They understand people have holiday festivities.
Your coworker is just a pooper who is trying to control the
majority ::)
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Re: I don’t celebrate any holidays- so you can’t either...
DIR By: Amara
Date: December 9, 2020, 2:22 pm
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I am a massive Christmas fan. And I enjoy it for all its worth.
No one is going to stomp on that (or they might get trodden on
by me as I hoist yet another wreath).
No, I'm don't overdo it and am sensitive to others at work (or
when we go back to the office, hopefully by next year's holiday
season). I do have a private office and I have a lovely tabletop
tree, a huge dried boxwood wreath, and multiple--but
tasteful--other decorations.Plus, I love my classical Christmas
music like that by the London Symphony Orchestra or the annual
Christmas in Vienna concerts, but I keep my door shut so no one
who doesn't want to see or hear it has to.
However, on the outside of my door, which faces the hallway and
which people see clearly as they enter the bathroom, I go mad.
Not with decorations per so but with Internet images of cats and
Christmas trees taped all over it. (
HTML https://www.google.com/search?q=cats+and+christmas+trees&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjiya7N3MHtAhVLHzQIHZ7VBRoQ_AUoA3oECBQQBQ&biw=1334&bih=898&dpr=2<br
/>) To insure that it is inclusive I include the message " Merry
Catmas!" though I am sorry to say I don't include dogs and
Christmas trees. I'll leave that to someone else.
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Re: I don’t celebrate any holidays- so you can’t either...
DIR By: Nikko-chan
Date: December 9, 2020, 6:33 pm
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.... y'all should decorate how you want. She doesnt need to
decorate or whatever. I wouldn't even wish her a Happy anything.
*Shrug* And if she complains just say you are going with her
wishes.
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Re: I don’t celebrate any holidays- so you can’t either...
DIR By: Isisnin
Date: December 9, 2020, 6:39 pm
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--- Quote from: Andi_3k link ---
>
> I am - the PTB are placating he in that the company sponsored
holiday festivities are now “Winter celebrations “ but I am
planning on buying a dozen donuts and walking in tomorrow
singing “ we wish you a Merry Christmas “ just because I can’t
sing “I wish you a Merry National Pastry day “ but I take every
opportunity to celebrate that I can.
>
--- End Quote ---
Good for you! If the PTB say anything to you, you could say
something like "I am uncomfortable that you are not respecting
my religion by not letting me observe it's tradition of gifting
this time of year, but yet you require me to practice co-workers
religion of not observing holidays."
Your company really shouldn't be requiring everyone observe only
one person's religion or belief system.
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Re: I don’t celebrate any holidays- so you can’t either...
DIR By: Rho
Date: December 9, 2020, 8:59 pm
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This
"I am uncomfortable that you are not respecting my religion by
not letting me observe it's tradition of gifting this time of
year, but yet you require me to practice co-workers religion of
not observing holidays."
Co worker saying NO ONE is to observe holidays is the same as
one person saying everyone else is to observe only HER holiday.
If your company is large enough for an HR dept---co owrker is
creating a hostile work environment.
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Re: I don’t celebrate any holidays- so you can’t either...
DIR By: ZekailleTasker
Date: December 11, 2020, 8:19 pm
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This is so sad! I just read another article about a family (and
probably others on the same street) who all received anonymous
letters from a neighbor complaining that the Christmas lights
decorating homes are cruel symbols of privilege to those who
CAN'T AFFORD A SIMILAR DISPLAY or are offensive to people who
don't celebrate the holiday and should be turned off.
Or, as one wag said "I think I read that I should put up even
more lights."
People seem to want to be offended by EVERYTHING these days.
Someone brags on Facebook that they finally lost the last 10
pounds of the 150 pounds they needed to be rid of and it's:
"Please stop talking from your place of privilege. Not everyone
can or wants to lose weight. Some of us believe we look
beautiful just as we are and you suggesting that being
overweight by 150 pounds is unhealthy is offensive to those of
us who don't care to waste time being thin." Did you win an
award for your creativity? "Not everyone has the ability or
talent to draw and it is shameful that you are making so much of
this frivolous thing when people are starving." Honestly, I
have asked coworkers if they will be upset if I give them a
compliment because it has been beaten into my head that giving
compliments is every kind of "ist" there is. (I have a coworker
in particular who can turn her hair into the loveliest designs
and styles and they are eye popping. I look forward to what she
will do next. But I am scared that saying so will be considered
some sort of condescending smack.)
People would rather be bland and angry and OFFENDED by any
little joy or happiness their neighbors might have. At least,
that is what I see, more and more among people I once thought of
as intelligent, smart human beings. It scares me a little.
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Re: I don’t celebrate any holidays- so you can’t either...
DIR By: Morticia
Date: December 12, 2020, 10:23 am
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I read the original post, and in my mind the background music
for it was "You're not the boss of me...". What a grinch! I do
like the idea of creating a holiday-free zone for your co-irker.
But don't back down: once someone like that perceives a taste of
power they will keep pushing.
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Re: I don’t celebrate any holidays- so you can’t either...
DIR By: sandisadie
Date: December 12, 2020, 1:03 pm
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In the US in the past few years people have been given the
apparent right to say and do the ugliest things ever. This
co-worker is just following this trend it seems to me. I would
call her out for being a bully. As long as she isn't the boss
then I think it is ok to just ignore her. When people show you
who they are they should be treated accordingly. Plain talk
might be proper in this instance instead of trying to be
tactful.
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Re: I don’t celebrate any holidays- so you can’t either...
DIR By: cymbaline246
Date: December 17, 2020, 7:58 am
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--- Quote from: ZekailleTasker link ---
>
> ... (I have a coworker in particular who can turn her hair
into the loveliest designs and styles and they are eye popping.
I look forward to what she will do next. But I am scared that
saying so will be considered some sort of condescending
smack.)...
>
> People would rather be bland and angry and OFFENDED by any
little joy or happiness their neighbors might have. At least,
that is what I see, more and more among people I once thought of
as intelligent, smart human beings. It scares me a little.
>
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On another forum, sewists were discussing other folks' reactions
to the clothes they created. One actually said she was offended
by any reaction verbalized at all, because she didn't dress to
impress people, it wasn't her responsibility to provide a
pleasing appearance to others, and nobody should say anything.
[sigh] Another was frustrated by comments like "What a wonderful
costume! Are you performing somewhere?" She chose to dress in
re-creations of a particular time period. I used to smile and
say something like "Pretty outfit" when I saw a dress or
ensemble that inspired the comment, but not any more.
When things other people do annoy or offend me, I Google
comedian Steve Hughes and his take on being offended. I watch it
twice with a glass of water.
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Re: I don’t celebrate any holidays- so you can’t either...
DIR By: Kimberami
Date: December 17, 2020, 8:10 am
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--- Quote from: cymbaline246 link ---
>
> [quote author=ZekailleTasker link=topic=1940.msg61425#msg61425
date=1607739584]
> ... (I have a coworker in particular who can turn her hair
into the loveliest designs and styles and they are eye popping.
I look forward to what she will do next. But I am scared that
saying so will be considered some sort of condescending
smack.)...
>
> People would rather be bland and angry and OFFENDED by any
little joy or happiness their neighbors might have. At least,
that is what I see, more and more among people I once thought of
as intelligent, smart human beings. It scares me a little.
>
--- End Quote ---
On another forum, sewists were discussing other folks' reactions
to the clothes they created. One actually said she was offended
by any reaction verbalized at all, because she didn't dress to
impress people, it wasn't her responsibility to provide a
pleasing appearance to others, and nobody should say anything.
[sigh] Another was frustrated by comments like "What a wonderful
costume! Are you performing somewhere?" She chose to dress in
re-creations of a particular time period. I used to smile and
say something like "Pretty outfit" when I saw a dress or
ensemble that inspired the comment, but not any more.
When things other people do annoy or offend me, I Google
comedian Steve Hughes and his take on being offended. I watch it
twice with a glass of water.
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If you are looking for offense, you will surely find it.
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