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#Post#: 60661--------------------------------------------------
Re: Christmas cards in the workplace
DIR By: TootsNYC
Date: November 23, 2020, 4:53 pm
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If I knew someone was not Christian, especially if I knew they
followed another faith, I would never give them a Christmas card
that referenced the Christian holiday in any way.
I'd give them a New Year's card, or a winter-themed card.
#Post#: 60669--------------------------------------------------
Re: Christmas cards in the workplace
DIR By: jpcher
Date: November 23, 2020, 7:12 pm
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If you're going to give a card to several co-workers then you
should give one to all in order to avoid the "well why didn't I
get a card, she/he must not like me" thought.
To keep it generic I like the thought of a Thank You card. Thank
you for being part of the team. Thank you for the experience of
working with you. Thank you for your support . . .
Just because it's Christmas doesn't mean that you have to pass
out holiday themed cards.
#Post#: 60680--------------------------------------------------
Re: Christmas cards in the workplace
DIR By: Aleko
Date: November 24, 2020, 7:50 am
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--- Quote ---
> Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that the number of people who
would be upset to receive a Christmas card when they don't
celebrate Christmas is minimal. I think most people read the
underlying sentiment; "Wishing of good times".
--- End Quote ---
I'm sure they do indeed read that. But they may also read an
indifference to or even dumb failure to notice their different
faith: 'Do they not even notice my turban/my kippah/the god
Ganesh on my desk?' and be, even if only subliminally, irked by
that. I would send a card with non-religiously-specific motifs
and wording, and if they feel it right to reciprocate by wishing
me a happy Christmas, that's their choice.
--- Quote ---
> If this person makes a fuss, then I would apologize and leave
them off my list next year.
--- End Quote ---
But one never knows how many people who wouldn't dream of making
a fuss are upset!
#Post#: 60716--------------------------------------------------
Re: Christmas cards in the workplace
DIR By: DaDancingPsych
Date: November 25, 2020, 4:58 am
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--- Quote from: Aleko link ---
>
> [quote]Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that the number of people
who would be upset to receive a Christmas card when they don't
celebrate Christmas is minimal. I think most people read the
underlying sentiment; "Wishing of good times".
--- End Quote ---
I'm sure they do indeed read that. But they may also read an
indifference to or even dumb failure to notice their different
faith: 'Do they not even notice my turban/my kippah/the god
Ganesh on my desk?' and be, even if only subliminally, irked by
that. I would send a card with non-religiously-specific motifs
and wording, and if they feel it right to reciprocate by wishing
me a happy Christmas, that's their choice.
--- Quote ---
> If this person makes a fuss, then I would apologize and leave
them off my list next year.
--- End Quote ---
But one never knows how many people who wouldn't dream of making
a fuss are upset!
[/quote]
Oh gosh... I am not suggesting that one should send a Christmas
themed card to someone who obviously doesn't celebrate, but (and
maybe I am just wearing my rose colored glasses) if one's
actions missed the mark that most people would see the kind
intent. I see it like a gift that misses the mark. The
thoughtful intentions outweigh the less desirable gift.
Honestly, these sort of things have prevented me from doing kind
things. I am so afraid of offending people that sometimes I will
choose to do nothing. Maybe that's why I personally choose to
over look religious cards and focus on the fact that the person
thought of me.
#Post#: 60717--------------------------------------------------
Re: Christmas cards in the workplace
DIR By: Jem
Date: November 25, 2020, 8:40 am
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--- Quote from: DaDancingPsych link ---
>
> [quote author=Aleko link=topic=1928.msg60680#msg60680
date=1606225847]
> [quote]Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that the number of people
who would be upset to receive a Christmas card when they don't
celebrate Christmas is minimal. I think most people read the
underlying sentiment; "Wishing of good times".
--- End Quote ---
I'm sure they do indeed read that. But they may also read an
indifference to or even dumb failure to notice their different
faith: 'Do they not even notice my turban/my kippah/the god
Ganesh on my desk?' and be, even if only subliminally, irked by
that. I would send a card with non-religiously-specific motifs
and wording, and if they feel it right to reciprocate by wishing
me a happy Christmas, that's their choice.
--- Quote ---
> If this person makes a fuss, then I would apologize and leave
them off my list next year.
--- End Quote ---
But one never knows how many people who wouldn't dream of making
a fuss are upset!
[/quote]
Oh gosh... I am not suggesting that one should send a Christmas
themed card to someone who obviously doesn't celebrate, but (and
maybe I am just wearing my rose colored glasses) if one's
actions missed the mark that most people would see the kind
intent. I see it like a gift that misses the mark. The
thoughtful intentions outweigh the less desirable gift.
Honestly, these sort of things have prevented me from doing kind
things. I am so afraid of offending people that sometimes I will
choose to do nothing. Maybe that's why I personally choose to
over look religious cards and focus on the fact that the person
thought of me.
[/quote]
I agree with DaDancingPsych. I also think that a lot of people
"celebrate Christmas" who are not religious. While I get that it
is a "Christian Holiday," for a lot of people it really isn't
about celebrating religious beliefs at all. Also, people who are
religious and who look at Christmas as a religious holiday
generally understand that many others don't view it as
religious. I am religious and I certainly understand that my
neighbors who put out Santa decorations and outdoor lights but
never go to church don't celebrate it the same way I do. Kinda
like how for many people "Easter" is about bunnies and candy and
not a religious holiday at all.
#Post#: 60720--------------------------------------------------
Re: Christmas cards in the workplace
DIR By: Dazi
Date: November 25, 2020, 10:47 am
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--- Quote from: DaDancingPsych link ---
>
> Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that the number of people who
would be upset to receive a Christmas card when they don't
celebrate Christmas is minimal. I think most people read the
underlying sentiment; "Wishing of good times". Either way, it's
work, so I would use one of the non-holiday greetings. If this
person makes a fuss, then I would apologize and leave them off
my list next year.
>
--- End Quote ---
I don't celebrate Christmas, but I honestly don't care what kind
of holiday themed card I receive. To me, the people who do get
offended are looking for a reason to be offended. What's so
difficult in just accepting it in the spirit it was given?
#Post#: 60722--------------------------------------------------
Re: Christmas cards in the workplace
DIR By: Rose Red
Date: November 25, 2020, 11:29 am
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I'm not religious but love Christmas cards. They have such
pretty scenes.
But it may be safer to have a "seasons greetings" card if you
know someone is of a different religion. And perhaps stay away
from Christmas cards that mention God unless you know it's
appreciated. I don't mind them but I can't speak for anyone
else.
#Post#: 60729--------------------------------------------------
Re: Christmas cards in the workplace
DIR By: Amara
Date: November 25, 2020, 2:05 pm
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I knew this married couple that were both Christian (he) and
Jewish (her) and together they created a mixed holiday season.
There was a menorah and a fully decorated Christmas tree. And
when they threw their annual dinner party on December 24 she and
I always loved to wish each other a "Merry Christmas" from me to
her and she wished me a "Happy Hannukah." It was full of cheer
and best wishes and always taken in a cheerful, shared spirit.
So like DaDancingPsych, I like to incorporate everyone's best
wishes.
#Post#: 60730--------------------------------------------------
Re: Christmas cards in the workplace
DIR By: lowspark
Date: November 25, 2020, 2:49 pm
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--- Quote from: Dazi link ---
>
> I don't celebrate Christmas, but I honestly don't care what
kind of holiday themed card I receive. To me, the people who do
get offended are looking for a reason to be offended. What's so
difficult in just accepting it in the spirit it was given?
>
--- End Quote ---
This.
I'm Jewish so I don't celebrate Christmas. However, I get
Christmas cards and wishes from friends. Some are generic, some
are religious. I get "Merry Christmas" from strangers all the
time.
All of this, I take in the spirit it was given. It's a lot of
effort to get offended about someone trying to be kind to you!
This is the world I live in. I can either choose to fight
windmills or I can pleasantly accept kindnesses in any form. I
choose the latter.
Send your coworker a card - Christmas, Holiday, whatever. If
he's a mensch, he'll accept it happily. ;)
#Post#: 60735--------------------------------------------------
Re: Christmas cards in the workplace
DIR By: malfoyfan13
Date: November 25, 2020, 3:51 pm
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I'm an atheist and I celebrate Christmas as a happy time of
year. I send cards that say Happy Holidays to those I know are
more or less Christian. If I were sending to someone I know to
be of another faith that doesn't celebrate Christmas I'd send a
happy new year type card. I don't think most people would be
upset by that.
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