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       Re: Thanksgiving hosting woes
       By: caroled Date: November 21, 2020, 8:32 pm
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       Just out of curiosity, what is the time schedule for the day's
       festivities? you say she lives an hour away. once there, how
       long will it take to prep and then roast a turkey in an electric
       roaster? factor in a few hours for the meal and cleanup and
       another hours drive home...is 6-8 hours an unreasonable amount
       of time?
       Also, are you footing the cost of the main, as well as the
       transportation of it?
       I'm kind of the opinion that if her own son has her car for his
       benefit and thus depriving his mom of her own transportation,
       then it should be on him/ them to see to it she has conveyance
       to your house... you were originally asked for sides, now the
       purchase of the mains, packing up and transporting them and
       cooking vessel..., well, i'm just frusrtated for you ,you are
       definitely getting the short end of the stick.
       #Post#: 60576--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thanksgiving hosting woes
       By: gramma dishes Date: November 21, 2020, 8:52 pm
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       Wouldn't it have been faster and less expensive to get the
       turkey from someplace closer to the host so she could get it
       started cooking while you all were on your way there?   Even if
       you had to chip in for a cheap roaster for her -- even a double
       foil one.  This arrangement doesn't seem to make a whole lot of
       sense, but maybe I'm just not understanding it.   :-\
       #Post#: 60577--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thanksgiving hosting woes
       By: Boeun Date: November 21, 2020, 9:08 pm
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       Deleted because I need to mind my business
       #Post#: 60578--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thanksgiving hosting woes
       By: lakey Date: November 21, 2020, 10:26 pm
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       [quote]Wouldn't it have been faster and less expensive to get
       the turkey from someplace closer to the host so she could get it
       started cooking while you all were on your way there?   Even if
       you had to chip in for a cheap roaster for her -- even a double
       foil one.  This arrangement doesn't seem to make a whole lot of
       sense, but maybe I'm just not understanding it.   :-\[/quote]
       I've used 2 foil pans because I don't want to store a big
       roaster that I only use once a year. Plus it's easy clean up.
       They work fine.
       #Post#: 60580--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thanksgiving hosting woes
       By: LurkingGurl Date: November 21, 2020, 11:15 pm
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       I think it's time to call BFsamMom and plan things out.
       Your plans are not working out because it's a game of telephone.
       If you are supplying the turkey then she (and DD#1 and Sam) need
       to supply the sides, the drinks and everything else.  It's great
       that DD#2 wants to bring a dish too.
       And just leave it at that.
       It's absolutely ridiculous for you to be making most of a T-day
       dinner and schlepping it an hour to someone's apartment.
       I think by now, I would have offered to rent her a car so she
       could drive herself - it would be less inconvenient.  Or heck!
       Tell BFsam and DD#1 to bring her to your house!
       I agree that you need to exercise your spine.  Just lay it out.
       If she wants to negotiate, fine.  But, at this point, you're
       just being told what to do!  So, take control and lay out how
       you want this to happen.
       Seems to me that your intermediaries--DD#1 and BFsam--aren't
       doing much on their own to bring this dinner to fruition except
       to play telephone.  Let them drive her out.  And back.
       Inconvenient for them?  So what!
       #Post#: 60587--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thanksgiving hosting woes
       By: vintagegal Date: November 22, 2020, 11:15 am
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       I have been to enough dinners where "the turkey isn't quite done
       yet" that I would bring a cooked turkey.
       #Post#: 60600--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thanksgiving hosting woes
       By: Hmmm Date: November 22, 2020, 2:15 pm
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       I don't know if it was out of line or not because it is hard to
       tell how much is her planning versus how much is your daughter
       making the plans. It sounds like there are 3 from your nuclear
       family attending and 2 from her family attending and that your
       DD#1 is heavily involved in making the arrangements. My daughter
       wouldn't think twice of volunteering me to pick up the turkey
       with the plan for her and her boyfriend to take that morning for
       them to cook elsewhere and if I had the space, I wouldn't mind
       either. I guess I see the borrowing of the roaster as more of
       your DD asking for it then I do Sam's mom.
       I love Tday and all the prep but some years the idea of my only
       responsibility being to make some mashed potatoes and send a raw
       turkey for cooking seems marvelous. Shoot, even cost wise, I'd
       be out about only about $36 for an organic 12 lb turkey and
       about $3 for potatoes. I just did my Tday grocery run for our
       dinner for 7. I already have the turkey and I spent a little
       over $80 for the ingredients for the sides, desserts, and
       dressing.
       #Post#: 60604--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thanksgiving hosting woes
       By: jpcher Date: November 22, 2020, 4:17 pm
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       Thanks for your replies. After thinking on this a bit I think
       I'm liking Hmmm's response . . . just getting more relaxed about
       the situation.
       To clarify a few things . . . it was a couple of weeks ago when
       DD#1 said that BFsamMom would like to host us for Tgiving. DD#1
       asked at that time if Mom could use our roaster. I agreed
       (because the roaster is the way to go instead of the oven.)
       DD#1, BFsam and his mom will go grocery shopping on Wednesday
       morning before DD#1 and BFsam come to my home with Mom's car. I
       told DD#1 that since they are going grocery shopping, please
       pick up a few potatoes and you'll have time to make the mashed
       potatoes while the turkey is cooking. She was fine with this. I
       don't know what else BFsamMom is planning on cooking.
       [quote author=caroled link=topic=1926.msg60573#msg60573
       date=1606012379]
       Just out of curiosity, what is the time schedule for the day's
       festivities?
       [/quote]
       DD#1 and BFsam are leaving my house early Tgiving day with the
       raw turkey and roaster. DD#2 and I will leave later with the
       mashed cauliflower and veggie pizza, planning on arriving at
       1-2pm.
       I think I'm more comfortable with this than I was before.
       #Post#: 60614--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thanksgiving hosting woes
       By: caroled Date: November 23, 2020, 1:04 am
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       That doesn't sound as bad as i initially took you to mean. I was
       envisioning you having to take your contributions along with the
       roaster and raw bird over on your trip and then spend so much
       time waiting...or feeling responsible for the bird and feeling
       you should be the one to cook it in advance.
       #Post#: 61246--------------------------------------------------
       Thanksgiving hosting woes. UPDATE #19
       By: jpcher Date: December 9, 2020, 2:57 pm
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       UPDATE: I just wanted to update you all on what a wonderful time
       we had on Tgiving day. The meal was delicious* and everything
       was done on time, the table setting was elegant, BFsamMom was a
       very gracious hostess and BFsam and DD#1 did most of the
       cooking.
       I guess I was just being a Grumpy-B when I started this thread.
       After all it's the company and being with family that is most
       important.
       *DD#1 was very proud of herself because this was the first time
       she made a turkey. Even though she put it in the roaster
       breast-side down so the legs and wings rested on the side of the
       roaster and got a bit (;)) charred but the breast was, I think
       the moistest breast I ever had. Maybe putting breast side down
       makes the juices from the back flow into it? I don't know, but
       it was wonderful.
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