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       Re: Adult children living at home
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: December 17, 2020, 7:35 am
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       I think finances and chores (and really everything that we've
       discussed in this thread) comes down to communication. As long
       as everyone can come to agreement, then I think that agreement
       is fine for them. And when the agreement is not working, then I
       think another conversation is needed. But when someone is
       silently upset with another, that is when the real problems
       start!
       #Post#: 61660--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Adult children living at home
       By: lowspark Date: December 17, 2020, 8:19 am
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       [quote author=Andi_3k link=topic=1909.msg61640#msg61640
       date=1608167378]
       [quote author=lowspark link=topic=1909.msg61632#msg61632
       date=1608152174]
       As far as helping around the house or paying rent, I don't think
       there's a one-size fits all answer. I'd want everyone whose
       residence impacts the household to help with mitigating that
       impact. So if they are eating groceries, they need to contribute
       to that in both paying and shopping. If they are using the
       bathroom/kitchen/whatever room, they need to contribute to the
       care of those rooms. OR an agreement needs to be made about
       reciprocal chores. Maybe I don't go shopping for food but I cook
       x times a week, for example. Maybe I don't cook but I do kitchen
       clean up. It's just a matter of coming up with a mutually
       agreeable arrangement.
       Rent -- well, it sort of depends. If they can afford it and are
       living there for some other convenience, they probably ought to
       contribute. If they are struggling financially, maybe not.
       Again, though, it needs to be a mutual agreement. And mutual
       doesn't mean (adult) kid says "I don't want to" and parent gives
       in.
       [/quote]. Depends- there are things I will not under any
       circumstances do - and some things I will. Mom is probably the
       most exacting person I have known when it comes to placement of
       objects ion her shelve, I know officially diagnosed OCD patients
       with more tolerance for things not being done exactly as she
       wants. After a lifetime of “do it again til it’s right “ I am
       not putting myself through that again. I also don’t babysit her
       friends kids/grandkids when they come over. I don’t think I need
       to be slave labor ever again- I’ve have enough of that, too.
       She’s got one couple who won’t come over any more because “ we
       told your daughter to watch Bradley and she told us it’s not her
       responsibility- she needs to learn her place”   No, no and most
       emphatically no- I had enough holidays, days off and vacations
       ruined as a younger adult to even be subjected to that again- my
       stance is I don’t have kids, I didn’t bring or invite kids, I
       don’t take care of kids. The youngest child in my circle of
       friends is 15 and doesn’t need a babysitter- mom tried arguing
       once and I asked why the responsibility is more on me than the
       parents and she’s never given me a reason- there is none
       [/quote]
       Yup. "Mutually agreeable" is the operative phrase here.
       Of course, everyone has to come to their own terms. I'm just
       stating my opinion here, and how I would operate if I were in
       this situation. But if you (general you -- all yous in this are
       general you) are living rent free and/or impacting expenses and
       the state of the household, then you need to contribute somehow.
       I don't consider that slave labor since you are receiving room
       and possibly board in return. It doesn't need to be something
       you absolutely abhor doing, but it needs to be something.
       #Post#: 61693--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Adult children living at home
       By: SioCat Date: December 17, 2020, 7:20 pm
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       I’m a little late here, but I have to disagree with most. Adult
       kids living with their parents are more like roommates. And
       while I think it’s nice to let your roommates know if you’re not
       coming home or if you’re coming home late, it shouldn’t be
       required. If a roommate required it of me, I’d consider them
       unreasonable and I’d be looking for a nice place to live.
       #Post#: 61698--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Adult children living at home
       By: AliciaLynette Date: December 18, 2020, 1:17 am
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       [quote author=SioCat link=topic=1909.msg61693#msg61693
       date=1608254409]
       I’m a little late here, but I have to disagree with most. Adult
       kids living with their parents are more like roommates. And
       while I think it’s nice to let your roommates know if you’re not
       coming home or if you’re coming home late, it shouldn’t be
       required. If a roommate required it of me, I’d consider them
       unreasonable and I’d be looking for a nice place to live.
       [/quote]
       You wouldn't want your room mates to start looking for you if
       you're more than say 3 hours or so later home than you should
       be, or don't show for a few days, or your car seems to have
       disappeared?
       It's basic safety, really - if they know roughly that you get
       home from work around 6pm every day, but on fridays you go to a
       friend's and don't get in till after midnight, then if Gods
       forbid something should happen to you and you get into a car
       crash or worse, they will know to start contacting your
       friends/emergency services.
       When I lived with my mum for a while, before I met OH, the
       standard rule was: no need to give details just a rough
       timescale of where you're going (work/shopping/friends/etc) and
       what time you're expecting to walk back in the door.  And that
       did go both ways, because yes it's more like a room mate
       situation that parent/child dynamics.
       #Post#: 61699--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Adult children living at home
       By: Aleko Date: December 18, 2020, 3:22 am
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       [quote]And while I think it’s nice to let your roommates know if
       you’re not coming home or if you’re coming home late, it
       shouldn’t be required. If a roommate required it of me, I’d
       consider them unreasonable and I’d be looking for a nice place
       to live.[/quote]
       But if meals are routinely cooked and served communally, don’t
       you think your roommates are entitled to know that you don’t
       plan to be home in time to eat supper? Or indeed that you won’t
       be helping to cook it as usual?
       And do you expect them simply to go to bed leaving the chain off
       the door and the burglar alarm not on until you get in, if
       indeed you come home that night at all?
       #Post#: 61704--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Adult children living at home
       By: Jem Date: December 18, 2020, 9:17 am
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       [quote author=SioCat link=topic=1909.msg61693#msg61693
       date=1608254409]
       I’m a little late here, but I have to disagree with most. Adult
       kids living with their parents are more like roommates. And
       while I think it’s nice to let your roommates know if you’re not
       coming home or if you’re coming home late, it shouldn’t be
       required. If a roommate required it of me, I’d consider them
       unreasonable and I’d be looking for a nice place to live.
       [/quote]
       This is why I would never want to live with my parents as an
       adult, nor would I want an adult child living with me. It's a
       strange dynamic that, in my opinion, does not aid in developing
       or maintaining a positive parent/child relationship. If an adult
       child wants to be considered independent, I think they should
       live independently.
       #Post#: 61707--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Adult children living at home
       By: TootsNYC Date: December 18, 2020, 11:10 am
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       [quote author=Jem link=topic=1909.msg61704#msg61704
       date=1608304647]
       [quote author=SioCat link=topic=1909.msg61693#msg61693
       date=1608254409]
       I’m a little late here, but I have to disagree with most. Adult
       kids living with their parents are more like roommates. And
       while I think it’s nice to let your roommates know if you’re not
       coming home or if you’re coming home late, it shouldn’t be
       required. If a roommate required it of me, I’d consider them
       unreasonable and I’d be looking for a nice place to live.
       [/quote]
       This is why I would never want to live with my parents as an
       adult, nor would I want an adult child living with me. It's a
       strange dynamic that, in my opinion, does not aid in developing
       or maintaining a positive parent/child relationship. If an adult
       child wants to be considered independent, I think they should
       live independently.
       [/quote]
       My adult daughter lives with me, and you're right--it's a
       strange dynamic.
       Especially for her dad; he has more trouble with it than I do.
       He says goodnight to our daughter--knocking on her door to
       interrupt her; I don't, I just go to bed.
       I've had roommates, and he never has. So transitioning to a more
       detached relationship is easier for me.
       #Post#: 61708--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Adult children living at home
       By: Judecat Date: December 18, 2020, 11:31 am
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       [quote author=SioCat link=topic=1909.msg61693#msg61693
       date=1608254409]
       I’m a little late here, but I have to disagree with most. Adult
       kids living with their parents are more like roommates. And
       while I think it’s nice to let your roommates know if you’re not
       coming home or if you’re coming home late, it shouldn’t be
       required. If a roommate required it of me, I’d consider them
       unreasonable and I’d be looking for a nice place to live.
       [/quote]
       So,  your roommates are expected to just leave the light on and
       the security system in case you want to come home whenever?
       Yeah,  you would be looking for a new place,  because you
       wouldn't be living with any of the people I've home shared with.
       We only share with reasonable adults -- not over-entitled
       overaged teenagers.
       #Post#: 61710--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Adult children living at home
       By: sandisadie Date: December 18, 2020, 11:58 am
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       It seems to me that if everyone living in a household is
       agreeable not to let it be known about their comings and goings,
       then that's ok.  Nobody will care or worry if you are absent.
       If you do care about letting people know, then you should make
       sure that all the housemates are in agreement with your thinking
       before moving in.
       #Post#: 61712--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Adult children living at home
       By: Boeun Date: December 18, 2020, 12:19 pm
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       When my husband lived with his parents they asked him to tell
       them if he wasn't coming home so they knew to put the security
       alarm on before they went to bed.
       Also every Sunday they had a big family dinner with his
       grandparents,  they asked to be told if he wouldn't be there for
       dinner so they knew not to set him a place.
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